Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Shirou]

they also release 4 skins in honkai and they're all so pretty

[Shirou]

i don't think titus did anything to redeem freedom slot yet but i don't dislike her posting in a vacuum

[Shirou]

furtive in the last pages is interesting

[Thestatusquo]

If Pooky is mafia then this pressure literally means NOTHING to him because Pooky flips before Shirou does.

If Shirou is uninformed of Pooky's alignment and actually thinks Pooky could be scumclaiming by backpedalling or w/e nonsense he wrote - then he shouldn't CARE about Pooky's pressure because the pressure can't actually do anything to him Shirou can't be voted right now! Pooky is like 2-3 votes from flipping. There's no actual need to deal with scum!pooky, just flip him and laugh at him.

also i just want to point out this is one of the most ??? arguments in this game

i was considering you more likely town than not up until gamma hinted you may be reconsidering suddenly at E-2, which then i began to consider actually scum indicative, and then Gamma said you just hadn't said anything about that in the PT and i cut the questioning short

i was always finding the pressure annoying at the point in time i thought you were more likely town than not, if Gamma had confirmed you had said something along the lines in the hood, i obviously would no longer treat it as just a wrong tunnel but an attempt at powerwolfing (?gone wrong?). you're using stuff from a different time to claim it doesn't align with my thoughts at a specific future timeframe

it...just doesn't make any sense

why the fuck would i powerwolf tunnel someone i cant vote out thats too stupid even for me to do

You keep saying this and it's an incredibly stupid argument and it's one of the things that doesn't sit right for me. There's a ridiculous amount of scum motivation for this, and you aggressively claiming there isn't repeatedly to the point of derision feels off.

[Thestatusquo]

"why would I, a scum, get into useless slap fights that gum up the thread and have no in game consequences for me because the person I'm attacking will never be limmed"

Huh no idea dude.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If Pooky is mafia then this pressure literally means NOTHING to him because Pooky flips before Shirou does.

If Shirou is uninformed of Pooky's alignment and actually thinks Pooky could be scumclaiming by backpedalling or w/e nonsense he wrote - then he shouldn't CARE about Pooky's pressure because the pressure can't actually do anything to him Shirou can't be voted right now! Pooky is like 2-3 votes from flipping. There's no actual need to deal with scum!pooky, just flip him and laugh at him.

also i just want to point out this is one of the most ??? arguments in this game

i was considering you more likely town than not up until gamma hinted you may be reconsidering suddenly at E-2, which then i began to consider actually scum indicative, and then Gamma said you just hadn't said anything about that in the PT and i cut the questioning short

i was always finding the pressure annoying at the point in time i thought you were more likely town than not, if Gamma had confirmed you had said something along the lines in the hood, i obviously would no longer treat it as just a wrong tunnel but an attempt at powerwolfing (?gone wrong?). you're using stuff from a different time to claim it doesn't align with my thoughts at a specific future timeframe

it...just doesn't make any sense

why the fuck would i powerwolf tunnel someone i cant vote out thats too stupid even for me to do

You keep saying this and it's an incredibly stupid argument and it's one of the things that doesn't sit right for me. There's a ridiculous amount of scum motivation for this, and you aggressively claiming there isn't repeatedly to the point of derision feels off.

we disagree on how to play the scum alignment and thats fine. I am describing how I play scum. You can play scum however you want to play scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"why would I, a scum, get into useless slap fights that gum up the thread and have no in game consequences for me because the person I'm attacking will never be limmed"

Huh no idea dude.

pretty sure it does have in game consequences for me

[Thestatusquo]

I don't care about your self meta.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're literally calling my self-meta scum indicative so yea you kind of do

[SirCakez]

there's no point arguing with Pooky TSQ you aren't going to win

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like can you actually tell the difference between Town!Me saying "this is literally too stupid for me to do as scum" and Scum!Me lying about how I play scum?

its pretty easy to do because I have like 100 completed scum games. Do you know how many of them involve me picking stupid fights with people I literally can't eliminate?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm saying that your argument doesn't make sense.

You are making a claim that scum don't benefit from doing x when I think its not only pretty clear that scum do benefit from doing x, but also scum do x all the time for those exact reasons.

I don't then care that you then tell me that YOU wouldn't do x as scum because you as scum are incredibly benefited by that argument and theres no way for me to verify it. All I can do is look at the motivations that I think very clearly exist.

[Thestatusquo]

Thats disingenuous, pooky. The structure of this game is different from most games in that in most games you CAN technically eliminate anyone, but some people are more limmable than others. Are you really making the claim that you've never done a shit push on someone who had no chance of being eliminated that day because of game state reasons for the purposes of muddying the thread and distracting from other discussions?

I call bullshit on that. I do it all the time as scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so if this thread agrees to yeet me and deadsheep me until im wrong how exactly do i benefit from that

[Thestatusquo]

so if this thread agrees to yeet me and deadsheep me until im wrong how exactly do i benefit from that

Scum say shit like this all the time because (le gasp) they don't actually expect to be yeeted. It's an AtE argument intended to make it look like they don't care if they die a lot of the time.

[Thestatusquo]

there's no point arguing with Pooky TSQ you aren't going to win

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

[Thestatusquo]

The point of arguing in mafia games is too win primarily if you're scum. Town shouldn't really care about "winning" the argument most of the time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so if this thread agrees to yeet me and deadsheep me until im wrong how exactly do i benefit from that

Scum say shit like this all the time because (le gasp) they don't actually expect to be yeeted. It's an AtE argument intended to make it look like they don't care if they die a lot of the time.

thats game state dependent

in a game state where any1 can get yeeted that kind of AtE might not be expected to be followed thru

im at like e-2 or e-3 and probably get yeeted today.

you don't apply tells unconditionally

[Thestatusquo]

I'm not saying its a tell I'm saying its an example of another argument that I don't think reads as genuine. Like, maybe you expect to be yeeted today, but knowing you and knowing your faith in your abilities, I kind of doubt it.

I already agree with you on most of your reads though so I dont know why you're grandstanding with me other to not get voted so it feels like you're simultaneously saying "yeet me and sheep me" and also trying very hard to get me not to vote you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Thats disingenuous, pooky. The structure of this game is different from most games in that in most games you CAN technically eliminate anyone, but some people are more limmable than others. Are you really making the claim that you've never done a shit push on someone who had no chance of being eliminated that day because of game state reasons for the purposes of muddying the thread and distracting from other discussions?

I call bullshit on that. I do it all the time as scum.

I'm telling you this play is literally too stupid for me to do as scum

you can think its a good scum play all you want.

[Enchant]

The point of arguing in mafia games is too win primarily if you're scum. Town shouldn't really care about "winning" the argument most of the time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not saying its a tell I'm saying its an example of another argument that I don't think reads as genuine. Like, maybe you expect to be yeeted today, but knowing you and knowing your faith in your abilities, I kind of doubt it.

I already agree with you on most of your reads though so I dont know why you're grandstanding with me other to not get voted so it feels like you're simultaneously saying "yeet me and sheep me" and also trying very hard to get me not to vote you.

I'm just having fun dude

I assumed you wanted a conversation with me when you said what you said

if you didnt want one then I can stop talking at any time

[Thestatusquo]

Thats disingenuous, pooky. The structure of this game is different from most games in that in most games you CAN technically eliminate anyone, but some people are more limmable than others. Are you really making the claim that you've never done a shit push on someone who had no chance of being eliminated that day because of game state reasons for the purposes of muddying the thread and distracting from other discussions?

I call bullshit on that. I do it all the time as scum.

I'm telling you this play is literally too stupid for me to do as scum

you can think its a good scum play all you want.

God this is so tilting, I am completely sure you've made a push on someone who was unlikely to get limmed because it confused the thread and didn't go anywhere before.

Are you really claiming that the only reason mafia makes pushes is to directly lead to lims?

[SirCakez]

there's no point arguing with Pooky TSQ you aren't going to win

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

Getting you to stop arguing? Feel like this is pretty obvious

[SirCakez]

there's no point arguing with Pooky TSQ you aren't going to win

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

Like these posts are giving me brain fog on both sides