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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:51 pm

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Hey do everyone townread Alisae?

I asking seriously.
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:52 pm

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Shirou we should talk. Pooky is saying you're super scummy and all this shit to me. Is he right should I just vote you? Lol
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:52 pm

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Also Pooky u have lost cred with me this game after furtive town flip
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:53 pm

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i really think alisae is town
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:54 pm

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In post 2215, SirCakez wrote:someone talk to me here I just want to engage
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 2229, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2215, SirCakez wrote:someone talk to me here I just want to engage
Emblem…Engage!
Do you still think I'm scum
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 2225, Enchant wrote:Hey do everyone townread Alisae?

I asking seriously.
I would say fairly town ya
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:58 pm

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Not as much as others
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:59 pm

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All three people in this challenge are in my decent town reads, this fucking sucks
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:59 pm

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In post 2232, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not as much as others
Okay what does this mean? Like nullscum? Null? I can't tell
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:00 pm

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In post 2234, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2232, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not as much as others
Okay what does this mean? Like nullscum? Null? I can't tell
Somewhere between nullscum and nulltown
You’re not a priority for me at least
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:02 pm

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In post 2221, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Don’t you wolfread me and Shirou?
...Yes, yes I do.

Vote: Alisae
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Lol he had to be reminded of his scum reads.
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:03 pm

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Dammit I kept the broken quote!
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:03 pm

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I have something to say if/when swap happens.
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:06 pm

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After saying Enchant was the best vote and asking Shirou to switch. If anyone is tempted to say "well he's not keeping up" he knew enough that Shirou has the coins to change the challenge....but didn't know enough that he was scumreading Alisae and possibly Shirou?
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:09 pm

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How come cakez and I have the same reads except for each other
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:10 pm

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In post 2235, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2234, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2232, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not as much as others
Okay what does this mean? Like nullscum? Null? I can't tell
Somewhere between nullscum and nulltown
You’re not a priority for me at least
Okay bet i can work with this
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:10 pm

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In post 2240, Save The Dragons wrote:How come cakez and I have the same reads except for each other
Hmm I wonder are you bussing your whole team
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:11 pm

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Part 1: Hood


The first thing I want to make public is a summary of the PT between me and Alisae to give some context to questions that for example Shea pointed out:

(I'm mostly cutting out my own content for obvious reasons)

Post#1~11
is mostly us acknowledging each other and fluffing that it's gonna be a fun PT

Post#12~15
is Alisae's and the first few posts talking about game content. Alisae expresses having no thoughts in the game and voting gamma to "see where it goes", "poke a bear see what happens".

Post#16~19
has quite a bit of fluffing again because of a confusion in one word said

Post#21
Alisae implies she doesn't know who is scum

Post#22~25
is where it gets interesting because Alisae asks me "Is Pooky scum?", around the frame time where Pooky vs Me was starting to happen, and asks me as well about who is scum

Post#30
Alisae asks me about T-Bone

Posts#33~36
mostly says i'm fun and the moderator has great taste in recommendation about the team

Post#37~53
we kinda discuss a bit of mafia theory upon me asking her what would she supposedly do as scum in her position, but we also talk about thread control and she soft encourages me to push through with the Pooky scum read if that's what I believe in, ending with a note of "I don't even know what's going on"

Post#54~59
is fluff

Post#60~62
asks me about a StD read, comments vibing with Cakez, and admits that she has "suspected me all along but Norwe sounds more trustworthy and she trusts me a bit more in association"

Post#63~70
me talking mostly, also I ask Alisae if the compliments before were pretending as well then

Post#71~74
Alisae says she was excited before to be with who she thought to be a wolf when she made the compliments, and hints on again having "head empty".

Later on in some posts I talk about being surprised our team won and suspicious of us winning if she didn't vote for us as one of the top slots, but there isn't much more.

Given all this I want to highlight a certain point:

Alisae seems to be rather opportunistic on the issue of Me vs Pooky in my pov, she first soft sides with me pushing pooky and comments on our hood on him perhaps being scum, but later on seems to change her mind and ?suspects? me along with pooky...but changes her mind again when Norwee vs Pooky some pages ago kinda seemed to make Pooky be in a more vulnerable position again, she even votes him again as she did in the start:
In post 998, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Pooky
However...she goes full circle
again
by the end and tries to "keep Shirou from getting money" by the end of the popularity contest.

At first I thought Alisae way of being "lost" was rather towny because I expected her to be more vocal about stuff if scum, but the more I look back and even in somewhat recent pages it feels like Alisae sways very strongly with whatever momentum the game seems to be going. At the start she sides with me on Pooky when I think the momentum is with me, but later goes along with Pooky even though she seemed to disagree that pressing Tbone there was scummy initially:
In post 371, Alisae wrote:why do you have your panties in a knot over 1 singular vote
if anything villagers should be open to the idea of using their vote to apply pressure
it's not like the vote is going to make or break your wagon

I don't get the issue
Then as quoted above already, votes Pooky again when people begin piling him and unvotes when he seems to respond well to the pressure. "Going along with the flow" is an explanation but it feels rather coincidental, almost intentional. However I wasn't very confident on this being scum-indicative until some other things also caught my attention which I'll explain in another part.
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"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:12 pm

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In post 2239, T-Bone wrote:After saying Enchant was the best vote and asking Shirou to switch. If anyone is tempted to say "well he's not keeping up" he knew enough that Shirou has the coins to change the challenge....but didn't know enough that he was scumreading Alisae and possibly Shirou?
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 2242, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2240, Save The Dragons wrote:How come cakez and I have the same reads except for each other
Hmm I wonder are you bussing your whole team
Is this really your solve
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:13 pm

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I believe paraphrasing PTs are against rules but ok
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:14 pm

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Paraphrasing is fine but post numbers is a bit much
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:15 pm

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You had Enchant at the top of your town list. So, like I get having tunnel vision for your top scumread. I don't get forgetting your top town read?
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:16 pm

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In post 2248, T-Bone wrote:You had Enchant at the top of your town list. So, like I get having tunnel vision for your top scumread. I don't get forgetting your top town read?
Enchant dropped a lot near the end there, as you can see by my interactions near the end of the day and Shea can confirm by my comments in our PT.

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