Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Asri Teroka]

This one trusts both our sire the majestic and radiant Herald of Flame, as well as He Who is Furtive

They can do no wrong in this one's eyes and this shall remain unchanged!

The one who Klicks and Red feel wholesome as well.

Why do you townread them?

This one feels our King and the Glancer are loyal, and still does!
Klick and Red do seem good for now?


This one has also taken a great liking to Sir of the Cakez, but is greatly unsure about voting on the Morn Tweeter.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

^ That doesn't really answer the `why`

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316 feels like a town reads list

[Asri Teroka]

This one stands by what they say!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

you can stand by it and also explain why

[Asri Teroka]

This one has said what it wanted to say.

[Klick]

Morning Tweet voting unvoting and voting again in the same post feels performative.

It's definitely performative but is it scum tryhard-performative or town fun-performative?

do u expect an answer here that will illuminate ur read on MT
or was this for reading Ari

Both, potentially?
It's the question I had in my head about Tweet's post
I had come to 'I don't know' as my conclusion
Ari was thinking about the post as well so I asked her for her perspective to further develop mine as well as hers

Klick, do you think you are a defensive person usually?

Tl;dr yes

A more accurate way of describing it is that I really don't like being misrepresented
I can pretty easily deal with/filter out someone just having a wrong opinion of my behaviour even if their reasons are sketchy
But I get frustrated when someone changes my words to their wrong interpretation of my words and I like to correct that

[Klick]

I don't have confidence in my ability to say the right things to sort for alignment properly mid-conversation.

I am very bothered by this last line here by Klick and ive been mulling it over for like half an hour.
I think Klick can sort and respond. Where is this idea he can't mid conversation try to be sorting? He also didn't fully respond to everything i said, like he took parts and responded to make it look like he was but...

I Want more.
I don't feel satiated.

I mean I can try but I don't get anything out of it
I feel like when I ask people questions and try to probe them they immediately see where I'm going with my question and respond in a way that doesn't give me the alignment-indicative info that I want
Whereas I find I much more often find relevant/helpful info from other people's conversations with each other

What else do you want a response to?

[Klick]

I kind of think Gimli believes in what he's saying even if I'm not really feeling his furtive push

Agreed

[Klick]

I'm still trying to figure out this Morning Tweet change of heart

Well it's a very good read of my intentions by Klick. Maybe informed makes you get there easier.

Here she becomes suspicious of Klick, right after FB put some pressure on him with a vote. Aristeia quickly cast a 2nd vote (with no reason?) and MT does a complete 180 from thinking FB is sus to agreeing with FB about Klick, casting the 3rd vote for him.

You're also no longer a good vote IMO x3

And I still don't know what this means, but if she's suggesting FB isn't a good vote because he already has 3, it would seem odd to jump to a 3rd vote on the Klick wagon. I could be misinterpreting this comment though

The quick change of heart from FB to Klick feels off and its the only minor scum read I've gotten so far

I believe you believe this!

[VP Baltar]

This one feels our King and the Glancer are loyal, and still does!

As CSF said, I don't see how this answers my actual question. You're standing by it...that's fine. I wasn't really saying you shouldn't. I want you to explain your thinking so I can understand where you're coming from.

[Asri Teroka]

It is what this one feels, and shares. There really is no other explanation with this day still dawning.

[Alisae]

I kind of think Gimli believes in what he's saying even if I'm not really feeling his furtive push

Agreed

Right it was this post that my CSF town gut pings came from.

[Alisae]

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.

[Klick]

I'm still trying to figure out this Morning Tweet change of heart

Well it's a very good read of my intentions by Klick. Maybe informed makes you get there easier.

Here she becomes suspicious of Klick, right after FB put some pressure on him with a vote. Aristeia quickly cast a 2nd vote (with no reason?) and MT does a complete 180 from thinking FB is sus to agreeing with FB about Klick, casting the 3rd vote for him.

You're also no longer a good vote IMO x3

And I still don't know what this means, but if she's suggesting FB isn't a good vote because he already has 3, it would seem odd to jump to a 3rd vote on the Klick wagon. I could be misinterpreting this comment though

The quick change of heart from FB to Klick feels off and its the only minor scum read I've gotten so far

First off, the x3 is a face. Nothing do to with 3's

Other than that I have no comment actually idk. I think FB's read of Klick is towny and I don't really care to hang onto the read much longer since it was about him scumposting, this is stronger than that fer me

I THINK I agree with this?

[Alisae]

Hey Klick it has been awhile
Who do you think currently are wolves?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Lycanfire

[Datisi]

This is a public moderator warning to not discuss ongoing games. This includes hinting at the fact that a read is based on ongoing games. See this post for more information.

[Datisi]

VOTE COUNT 1.03

WITH 17 VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES 9 TO MAKE A DECISION. DAY 1 ENDS IN (expired on 2023-02-17 17:05:00).

execution

KLICK [4]:

Firebringer, Aristeia, Morning Tweet, furtiveglance

VP BALTAR [3]:

Mistyx, Cat Scratch Fever, Gimli

MORNING TWEET [2]:

SirCakez, Taly

FIREBRINGER [1]:

Klick

SIRCAKEZ [1]:

petapan

GIMLI [1]:

redFF

REDFF [1]:

VP Baltar

ARISTEIA [1]:

Lycanfire

LYCANFIRE [1]:

Alisae

NOT VOTING [2]:

Asri Teroka, Black

mod notes

VP Baltar V/LA 13.2. - 17.2.
All vote counters have been borked by the newest update, so please let me know if there are mistakes in the VC.
This is a mod note.

[Aristeia]

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.

the way i read peta is to look for things he does as town exclusively.

i dont really expect him to be readable this early in the game and i have a lot of respect for him as a player.

[Firebringer]

I don't really see how Fire got Klick thinks MT is town from Klick's 184 so like I disagree with the premise of the push entirely. I'm not going to say I don't understand where he is coming from because I think I can but I feel like that alone isn't enough for me personally

Alisae not realizing im a master scum detector is very rude of e.
Just for this Alisae goes into the scum box.

Alisae can get out with good behavior.

[Firebringer]

MTs posts about Fire makes me think they've never ever met Fire and I'm certain that isn't true

Could scumTaly be white knighting me?!?!?!

[Alisae]

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.

the way i read peta is to look for things he does as town exclusively.

i dont really expect him to be readable this early in the game and i have a lot of respect for him as a player.

This is reputable.

[Alisae]

I don't really see how Fire got Klick thinks MT is town from Klick's 184 so like I disagree with the premise of the push entirely. I'm not going to say I don't understand where he is coming from because I think I can but I feel like that alone isn't enough for me personally

Alisae not realizing im a master scum detector is very rude of e.
Just for this Alisae goes into the scum box.

Alisae can get out with good behavior.

[Alisae]

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.

the way i read peta is to look for things he does as town exclusively.

i dont really expect him to be readable this early in the game and i have a lot of respect for him as a player.

ig my follow-up question would be do you really think he hasn't done anything he wouldn't be able to do exclusively as villager?

[Klick]

Hey Klick it has been awhile
Who do you think currently are wolves?

Hiya, been really looking forward to playing with you again! I don't think I ever told you this because you weren't around much while it was happening, but the way you played as town a few years ago hugely influenced the way I've been trying to play as town more recently. So, uh, thanks

I don't really have any scumreads atm. I think a few players seem pretty towny so far but I don't often have confident wolf reads early. Taly stands out to me as explicitly not looking very towny in a way that bothers me a bit, if that helps?