Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Datisi]

VOTE COUNT 1.05

WITH 17 VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES 9 TO MAKE A DECISION. DAY 1 ENDS IN (expired on 2023-02-17 17:05:00).

execution

VP BALTAR [4]:

Mistyx, Cat Scratch Fever, petapan, Aristeia

REDFF [3]:

Gimli, Firebringer, Black

KLICK [2]:

Morning Tweet, furtiveglance

MORNING TWEET [2]:

SirCakez, Taly

LYCANFIRE [2]:

Alisae, Klick

ASRI TEROKA [1]:

VP Baltar

GIMLI [1]:

redFF

ARISTEIA [1]:

Lycanfire

NOT VOTING [1]:

Asri Teroka

mod notes

VP Baltar V/LA 13.2. - 17.2.
All vote counters have been borked by the newest update, so please let me know if there are mistakes in the VC.
This is a mod note.

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: morning tweet she is scummiest person so far

you don't usually do that!

I'm fine spending my entire d1 responding things about furtive, he is one of my favorites

speaking of which, he kinda disappeared after page 4, didn't he. I think he is more active than that in general.

Disappeared after page 4? Do you have reason to believe that disappearing after page 4 is suspicious? Or that he even really disappeared at all. The game has been moving fast it feels like you drew furtives name out of the hat. But yes I remember your furtive read the other day and it doesn't bother me so much as perplex me

I skimmed furtive's ISO and I really like it

[Klick]

Tweet I literally laughed out loud reading your last few posts about me
Not in an insulting way more in a relatable way. I get deeply caught up in analysing things to their logical ends as well

You're basically correct in your analysis and I think you're towny for it

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Agreed, Morning Tweet is probably town

[Alisae]

I was sus of MT when she flipped to the Klick wagon over the smallest hunch (basically, "Klick understands my personality and read my actions right, so maybe he has insider information that I'm town"). I wasn't a big fan of that.

Why? It's pretty early in the game I don't see what you think is wrong with it. Keep in mind it's pretty early in the game so I imagine it's pretty easy to want to be cooperative with other people for their wagons just to help progress the game.
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I'm also getting weird vibes from Ari. Her votes and claims have come with little analysis (see 186 and 223), though she just posted a bit ago elaborating on her reads. I liked that post.

He has townread multiple people now with no explanations, and when pushed to elaborate, he refuses.

It's fine if it's like your first game on the site but you're going to have to do better than this tho ig you did say you don't even substantial reads. "They're not constantly posting analysis/content, they're voting randomly, or they target is not providing (substantial) explanations" is fine now since I imagine we don't have much to go off of but it's not gong to cut it later.

I really think the biggest reason why I'm struggling to find you as town currently is I think due to the quality and explanation of your own reads. Again I don't particularly think you've done anything wolf indicative just nothing that super screams town indicative. It's also not really easy this early on so like idunno just keep playin ur game I'm sure I'll figure it out

[Alisae]

This one trusts Fire and Furtive, likes Red, Klick and hasn't had reason to not like Sir Cakez. There are others that this one might place above the previous three but this one is not naming their names, as this one doesn't like to be fooled and rather trusts its first impressions now.

This one doesn't like to be forced, it will not expand!

what the heck is there to like about red?

[Alisae]

{taly}

{fire/cakez/ali/black}

{csf/red/peta}

{gimli/furtive/ari}

{klick/vp/mist}

{asri/lycan/mt}

{fucking datisi}

probably 1, (hopefully fucking not 2), wolves in top 3 categories

17p has 4, maybe even 5 mafia right?

what is there to like about red

[Alisae]

Fire, Black, Taly, Alisae, CSF, furtive, Klick all feel decently town to me
Meanwhile not a fan of MT, Gimli, Red, Ari or honestly you rn

These are almost my reads exactly, wtf. I'm leaning slightly town with Gimli though. A fickle townie, but town vibes nonetheless

cool mindmeld moment
I can't get over that early Gimli post that was really bad but I think the Red push is decent

it would sure make a lot of people's lives easier if whenever you had a read you could attach some kind of reason that can be engaged with or lets people see a bit into your thought processes :/

[Firebringer]

Ali you feel cold and detached in ur last few posts.
How you doing?

[furtiveglance]

Alisae explain thought process behind thought process being helpful?^

[redFF]

Im claiming town

people voting me...idk if you missed this post?

[Alisae]

Ali you feel cold and detached in ur last few posts.
How you doing?

I'm half asleep & tired and I have to go to acupuncture in a few minutes.
I only got like 4-5 hours of sleep.

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Alisae explain thought process behind thought process being helpful?^

Transparency is helpful when it comes to reading people are at least trying to see eye to eye with them. I don't really see any reason why you can't push yourself to try to elaborate on why you have the reads that you do in thread. I've been trying to push myself to do that at least. Even if it's like obv you should still try to elaborate on why you see that in that light and maybe try pointing to posts that make you feel that way. As a wolf something I like to do a lot is not explain obv reads, as a wolf it's really easy to put the obv read (especially obvtownies) in the obv spot w/o much reasoning behind it.

Best way to show towniness is to post literally every single thought you have into the gamethread even if it's a bad one.

[redFF]

if yall sick of me claiming scum. I will drop it after page 10.
I am still having fun with it for now though.

I don't mind it. Could be a potential "I claimed scum on page 1 and still won the game" moment for you, but I'm not convinced

Every game is a potential one of those for Fire he holds the site record (its roughly equal to the # of his scumgames). the "I spammed the scum chat to death" line took it over the edge for me, although yes it does sound a bit silly when i phrase it like that. WhY sO sErious

I'm still gonna vote fire because his reaction to Ari pointing out the previous still seems kind of suspicoous/defensive to me. I'm sorry. I make too much out of content, i make nothing out of it... cant win!!!

Spoiler: nonsense

Morning Tweet did nothing wrong. AMA

My mannnn

vindicattiooonnnnn

Thanks i put a lot of effort into the gimli case

exhaled rlly hard

UNVOTE: redFF

I'm no longer convinced he's racist against Dwarves.

Interesting case against Gimli though. There were lots of people posting early and no one was really advancing the game, yet for some reason he only picked on furtive

two things

I know furtive and I know he goes hard early as town. this is uncharacteristic I promise you.

out of all top posters he is the only one who didn't drop a single read in those pages when other people were doing that. he was ignoring the mafia playing parts of the conversation.

check his ISO to see for yourself

Is that true? Even like at the very beginning of D1?

Spoiler: This is a fairly unhelpful tangent about furtive

I will give you that furtive has posted a lot without that much relating to the game, especially proportionally to the rest of the game. Don't know if high post count with low game engagement is necessarily scummy for furtive (from my limited meta I thought he played more background early game as town ACTUALLY I HAVE A GREAT REFERENCE hold on. He was scum in that game and i mistook him for town but, regardless...

viewtopic.php?t=90193&user_select%5B%5D=36433

Furtive is a scum traitor gladiator here. I thought there was juicy self meta that i remembered but it's mostly unrelated to what I wanted exactly. Maybe I'll give my own summary. Furtive seems like the kind of player who is confident in his own reads regardless of thread (in the event he disagrees with the majority). He doesnt strike me as someone who is the loudest in the thread although from my limited experience he's pretty active and has a thread presence

.................i kinda think it's too early to determine who is "going hard". Maybe im wrong but idont think we're there yet. But I do think it's noteworthy he doesn't really have any game-related thoughts come out *at all* in the 21 posts he's made, so mabye on the radar

this is a town post

[Alisae]

Im claiming town

people voting me...idk if you missed this post?

Probably because you need to provide more than what you're currently doing. Right now what you're doing is I say far below adequate.

[Firebringer]

Im claiming town

people voting me...idk if you missed this post?

are u going to claim scum as scum then or what

[VP Baltar]

i feel the best about TRing Ali, Gimli & Taly

i think klick vpb & redff are all fine places to vote.

id tr firebringer but i dont want him to get mad at me.

This also feels incredibly lazy to me

Why are those reads lazy?

All being pushed by other people and ari isn't actually adding to those conversations.

[Alisae]

Now I ask to be named king of this thread. I have already taken over the scum PT by spamming it to death while DATISI forever in how long he takes to start games, sat idly by.

I have a feeling this is something that actually happened

I misread this as Fire spamming the word DATISI initially

I don't wanna be too focused furtive, but I'm concerned with the level of fluff not going down at any point, I think it makes it easy for mafia and he is posting too much but nothing is game advancing content.

VOTE: gimli

Serious (non racially motivated) vote

Like this post. When I was first catching up w/ thread I wanted to townread this.
However when I found myself trying to explain myself in my notes, I found myself drawing blanks when it comes to answering "why can't this come from a wolf again?"
I can see how both alignments make this vote so like

please do more

[furtiveglance]

Alisae I know, I just can't always give you the level of detail you desire

And yeah Red, what's going on. Is your Gimli vote representative of your current gameview?

[Alisae]

VOTE: VP
I'll help Peta with this it's probably better than lycanfire, a complete shot in the dark, right now.

[Alisae]

Alisae I know, I just can't always give you the level of detail you desire

I am aware just try to push yourself to do the best you can.

[Firebringer]

I don't like VPB votes.
But i don't feel like pushing against it and arguing VPB is town
Cause I don't have any town arguments for VPB.

What a conundrum i am in.

[Asri Teroka]

This one trusts Fire and Furtive, likes Red, Klick and hasn't had reason to not like Sir Cakez. There are others that this one might place above the previous three but this one is not naming their names, as this one doesn't like to be fooled and rather trusts its first impressions now.

This one doesn't like to be forced, it will not expand!

what the heck is there to like about red?

Purely by gut this one believes them to be good.

[Aristeia]

just say vpb is in your scum pt but you dont want to bus him because he's too funny

[furtiveglance]

I don't like VPB votes.
But i don't feel like pushing against it and arguing VPB is town
Cause I don't have any town arguments for VPB.

What a conundrum i am in.

Gamestate counts.

For instance, I can't see why Klick is being given a free ride and VP hounded when Klick's posts are a lot worse to me

[Firebringer]

just say vpb is in your scum pt but you dont want to bus him because he's too funny

Wait where has VPB been funny