Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Doctor Drew]

UNVOTE:

Howdy all, already gave a little bit of a skimmy skim of the thread

The main things that jumped out at me in a quick reading:

TL changing their Mara for no reason.....when Mara was the first town ping I got was a bit....weird?

And it was Kiki...or Kyoko, sorry I am gonna fuck that up a lot(damn anime names and avatars), who called that out as well......seems towny(or at least not the same alignment as TL).

There was something I didn't like about Kitty's early posting, but changed my tuned as I kept skimming, will revisit that as I read the thread again.

Again, just a quick little how you doin post with some off the cusp reads and such, will do a deeper dive.....possibly tonight if the beer doesn't take over too much lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Also yay, first post on my birthday!!

[Doctor Drew]

I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.



VOTE: Marashu[/v}

I kind of do, but it doesn't need to be so early.

Now THIS is exciting

UNVOTE:

why would you unvote because of this?

Because I initially thought they were just trying to act dumb and role fish, but they confirmed that they have a reason for doing so.

Glad this came up again, so I was reminded of this.

Why is them confirming they have a reason to do so make them clear from maybe rolefishing?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm guessing you haven't played with not mafia in the past couple of years.

Why does that matter.

Also, Kokichi seems pretty cool rn.

No one is setting up NM for anything but a lolhammer

Elaborate please

[Doctor Drew]

Not_Mafia is a known lolhammerer so E-1 is likely to lead to an elimination

Everytime?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm reading the setup now

the benign 3p list is super cool btw, lots of fun roles

Oh 3p is always fun to play imo.

But, are you reading the setup for an response to Kyoko? I mean it is all there in the setup post at the start of the game.

[Doctor Drew]

no I was just curious. I wanted to wagon kyoko a bit anyway, didn't care if enchant had a point or not

Can you clarify a bit? Weren't you just town reading them when TL voted them?

[Doctor Drew]

I think she could be townier or behave like scum if she got some pressure. I agreed with kokichi that the 'sidelines' post was a little odd and could mean something, so I joined enchant. I also trust enchant with mech since he reads the setups, so I thought maybe he was onto something, etc.

Ok I get it, just thought I was missing something.

the 3p question was just me being silly
then I started reading 3p roles out of curiosity, has nothing to do with kyoko

Have you ever played as 3p? Just curious.

[Doctor Drew]

I think Kokichi is town

Can everyone stop townreading me, I don't wanna be night one kill this game.

K

VOTE: Koki

[Doctor Drew]

I can confirm TL's claim.

[Doctor Drew]

I can confirm TL's claim.

What's your read on Lich in and out of the neighborhood? Are you the only two or are there more people?

Just TL and I in the neighborhood. They also said that I (or specifically narrow parking) was a random choice.

There hasn't been much action in the hood, just TL explaining to my former self what a hood is lol. Really no real alignment read from that. I almost feel like they are too scared too give too much away, but their in thread activity has matched their hood activity, so might be nothing big about that.

In thread, seems weird that they are the only real wagon and besides TL's push on Kyo, there been a real push for a counter wagon. I keep going back to TL's sudden read change on Mara, which to me seemed the most scummy thing to happen to that point.

I feel like I am overthinking my way out of a TL voted, but I would prefer to let things play out a bit more.

[Doctor Drew]

Summary of claims so far:

Herta
Pick: Universal Miller (Must Pick)

TemporalLich
Pick: Meta-Neighbour
Discard: Extension

Doctor Drew
Pick: Meta-Neighbour

Kyoko Kirigiri
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

To my understanding Doctor Drew didn't pick Meta-Neighbour; by TL picking it, Doctor Drew's slot was brought into the neighbourhood.

I was gonna say the same thing lol, I didn't choose the life, the life chose me(by randomly being selected by TL's choice of role into the hood).

I have claimed anything.

Also RE: Enchant and Gimli, I also have had some umbridge with them being generally considered obvTown, not that I think they are scummy per se.....but haven't read anything from them that I could understand someone else getting a strong town read on.....if that makes sense.

And even TLs strong town read on me seemed a bit forced, like they are my hood buddy and thinks they can appeal to emotions a bit in hopes I got their back.

[Doctor Drew]

249 and 316 is the kind of distancing that only strengthens an associative.

Did I not do the same thing with Marashu? Why are you only focused on Kirigiri? I think you just thought we were the same person then realized we weren't and are faking a read.

I swear I read this earlier, did you or someone else already mention this possibility?

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die

So a weird passive vig of sorts? I mean, that isn't anti-town per se.

Actually would be more anti-town if you didn't claim it, on first thought.

[Doctor Drew]

Is TL at E-1 still?

I don't want to accidentally hammer but I want to vote them, feel like at this point it is better than Yume.

[Doctor Drew]

meg's gonna post a votecount, I suggest you wait

Have been waiting for it for a bit now lol.

Was just wondering if anyone was keeping score at home.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: TL

Also Gimli, by LT did you mean TL or am I missing something?

[Doctor Drew]

yeah I forgot Deathseeker somehow... That's indeed jestery, but never on Day 1.

are you a vampire

are you implying I'm acting jestery? that's really bad when my claimed role (meta-neighbor) requires credibility to work.

Why do you think your neighbor Doctor wants you elim'd? Do you think they could be scum/third party?

I asked them point blank and if they wanted to be eliminated, even before I knew of a specific role/alignment that would want that.

But they have been giving vague responses all centered around making sure they have credibility to make a meta-neighborhood work.

But they also said they are trying to avoid being eliminated, but not is such a direct way.

All this vagueness has me confused.

Pre Edit: I asked them in the hood, if I wasn't being clear here.

[Doctor Drew]

There was something I didn't like about Kitty's early posting, but changed my tuned as I kept skimming, will revisit that as I read the thread again.

Did you ever reach a conclusion on this?

I did not actually, got a bit caught up on the TL situation, kind of forgot about them.

[Doctor Drew]

Who tf posts a reads list 4 pages in. What is even there to make enough reads on for a full list?

It was this, getting that upset over posting initial reads(whether you agree with the reads or not), jumped out at me.

Not much here tbh, could have been trying to jumpstart a miselim, but not much else evidence to really support that.

Did find it interesting that Gimli gave them shit for saying they aren't familiar with the player list. There was a slight back and forth that seemed a bit forced. But that might be better to revisit at a later time.

[Doctor Drew]

Agreed that Gimli and KT are almost guaranteed to not be same alignment.

Hey, maybe first instincts were correct.

VOTE: KT

End of D1 when under fire is quite the time for TL to come alive and making some sense at least

[Doctor Drew]

Quick read is basically just pushing on TL and then not much content after. I'm willing to wait for their catchup at least. We still have time and they said tomorrow.

Do we have time? And what if they don't catch up tomorrow?

[Doctor Drew]

I have a guilty on Doctor Drew

I also have guilty on Doctor Drew

Wut?

There is more than one reason this is untrue, I will let you guess what they are.

(Spoiler, one of which is I am town).

[Doctor Drew]

I know this question can be related to me.

But if we do care about roleclaims, why we didn't force Yume to claim before "Yeah vig shots here 100%"

Force the lurker to claim when the Day was winding down?

How would that work?

[Doctor Drew]

I have a guilty on Doctor Drew

I also have guilty on Doctor Drew

Wut?

There is more than one reason this is untrue, I will let you guess what they are.

(Spoiler, one of which is I am town).

It seems unrelated but is it because Henry II was married to Eleanor of Aquataine?

Ah damn, you almost got me lol.

But the judges won't accept that answer.

You are a smart one though, sure you or Enchant can figure it out.

[Doctor Drew]

Then shouldn't we be voting Drew?

Yes

Yup

So, vote me?

Or have you figured out by now why you are caught in a lie?

Besides what I already stated.

I will say, curious why Fuyu didn't take the bait(or saw through the reaction test, if that was what this was lol).

[Doctor Drew]

I have been going through the ABLOAF thread looking for something that makes sense of this. False guilty, posting in pairs.....and oh by the way what I was hinting at.....Hail would prevent all targeted actions.

Nothing that I could find as of now.

Pre Edit: Lol fair enough Fuyu, I was just curious why you were so quick to dismiss it. Most people, like Herta, would at least ask some follow ups to try to figure out what exactly is going on.

[Doctor Drew]

NM is a troll and so is Enchant.

A coordinated troll like that though?

[Doctor Drew]

any ways eno ugh soft clai ming

I can full claim end of day. Thin king ab out it

Hang the fuck on
Why are you acting like this? I wouldn’t have been able to target you, and you wouldn’t even know if I had!

Did I miss something where Kyo is blaming you for this, I assume, post restriction?

[Doctor Drew]

any ways eno ugh soft clai ming

I can full claim end of day. Thin king ab out it

Hang the fuck on
Why are you acting like this? I wouldn’t have been able to target you, and you wouldn’t even know if I had!

Did I miss something where Kyo is blaming you for this, I assume, post restriction?

I don’t believe it’s a post restriction, I think she’s trying to play around a presumed action that I did not take.

Maybe fake maybe real, the question I was asking though is where did she point out that you caused it?

I feel like there is a piece I am missing here.

[Doctor Drew]

I meant to respond to Drew and Herta as well there, I have no idea why the quotes weren't included
Well, I do actually, I probably clicked the regular quote button rather than the multiquote button on Aisa's post.

While I enjoy the new multiquote setup, has tripped me up a couple times as well lol.

And I forgot about your claim yesterDay, why I was confused.

I will go down this path with you VOTE: kyoko

[Doctor Drew]

Mara, can you clarify what you mean by 'repeating similar opinions'? I skimmed the thread somewhat before I replaced in, and then a bit more after I officially joined, those were my quick slight observations about the game at the time.

And as far as my reaction to enchant and not Mafia. I saw the two guiltys right in a row, first was confused of the false guiltys and then why they posted basically at the same time. Then remembered it was hailing and really thought I caught scum in some sort of gambit, which is why I kept saying that besides me being town, there is one other big reason why this is impossible. Then I realized it was all probably a reaction test, and trolling by Not Mafia, and I stopped paying attention to it, especially after Not Mafia said he was a gunsmith.

I feel a bit dumb I didn't immediately think reaction test first, but not the first time that has happened sadly lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Then shouldn't we be voting Drew?

Why so quick to apparently believe the guilty? And why did you wait until my wagon had some momentum before you voted?

[Doctor Drew]

Then shouldn't we be voting Drew?

Why so quick to apparently believe the guilty? And why did you wait until my wagon had some momentum before you voted?

Where do you get that I believed it?

I'm not voting you off of those "guilties."

I initially thought you were more questioning their motives, but reading that post again after accepting it was a reaction test.

I dunno, just seems weird to say 'why are we not voting Drew?', and then lay a naked vote a little later after momentum for my miselim was growing.

Pre Edit: And by we, I meant Not Mafia, you , and Enchant.

[Doctor Drew]

okay I'm here for the next hour or two and I'm working on this game! I wonder if I can get anywhere with it.

@kuzu I'll respond to your things in time.

What do you mean working on this game? I don't get this.

Seems more like posting just to say you posted.

Pre Edit: Ok substance, nice.

Speaking of Koki, what do you think of how he worded his post when he voted me?

Pre Edit 2: Jeez, it is like I am controlling your thoughts lol.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm back in a bit and I'll speak with you drew

not suspecting you or anything, just to respond to your q's

Suspect all you want, I wish you didn't add the caveat though, would have came off much more ominous lol.

>Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu will remember this.

will remember what?

Drew choosing to pester me about my immediate processing of the fakeness of the guilties

I am there to needle you if you step out of line again.

For some reason I thought hail would only stop town actions. I'm dumb alright.

Why would you think this and think everyone would be okay with this happening? also what are your reads? I don't like you just waiting for others to tell you what your reads should be

I said it, I forgot overnight.

My strongest reads are Marashu town, Gimli town, Fuyuhiko town. All on gut.

I don't like Drew's tone, it seems overly defensive and confrontational. He's my main SR.

First off, might need to update my sig and add this post game.

Second, tell me you have never played a game with me without actually telling me you never played a game with me lol.

Third, and a bit more serious here, isn't the name of the game to get confrontational and defensive? This isn't church, this is a game predicated on arguments.

[Doctor Drew]

I am there to needle you if you step out of line again.

how was my conduct earlier "out of line"?

Thought my joking tone was obvious, was making reference to when you said I needled you before(which I took in a joking way btw)

I think I'll trust enchant, herta and marashu

And aisa

you agree with my other townreads then? I can't really townread aisa, could you elaborate?

It's a meta read so it won't be much help to you.

This is the thing Herta, you keep sorting people but when asked for reasons you response is 'Oh I have reasons......' and then walk away like a super villain.

Like the person who seemingly town reads you the most is asking why they should town read someone they just voted, like you are just hoping they will blindly follow.

VOTE: Aisa

[Doctor Drew]

drew, you're voting for aisa while talking to someone else and not giving any reason for why you're voting for aisa

herta just said she has a meta read so IDK why you're just voting there without further investigating into the meta read

Herta doesn't follow up on explanations for reads, that was my point.

So if pressure on them doesn't work, how about pressure on the person who they seem to have a town read on for a mysterious reason they don't feel like sharing.

And I am getting frustrated on why Herta is allowed to just fly under the radar, was gonna ask you to expand on your lockTown read on them as well.

[Doctor Drew]

So if pressure on them doesn't work, how about pressure on the person who they seem to have a town read on for a mysterious reason they don't feel like sharing.

just so we're clear, you're voting for aisa but do you scumread aisa? or is it just to pressure herta?

have you voted herta at any point? are you scumreading herta?

Just like Herta is giving you slight town pings, they are giving me slight scum pings. I pressure them about how they came to my vote on me, vague response.....you ask about their town read on Aisa, vague response.

I don't think anyone else would vote them so there would be no real pressure on them, so by proxy vote the person they have the aforementioned 'meta read' on in hopes that it can get some information out of Herta to further the read on them.

And I do have a light scum read on Aisa as well, much like you said for Koki, they seem to just give superficial reads and try to float on by.

So, why not pressure two birds with one stone.

[Doctor Drew]

metaread isn't a mysterious reason. it can be a reason that we can't grasp because it's her meta, but it's not a mystery

Missed this in the preview.

Yes you are correct, but it also is an excuse to not give a real reason. In a vacuum it makes sense, but they have been vague quite a bit already. At the very least want Herta to explain things a bit more.

[Doctor Drew]

I wish i could figure out how to quote a sentence.

I do like this from Drew:

This is the thing Herta, you keep sorting people but when asked for reasons you response is 'Oh I have reasons......' and then walk away like a super villain.

It made me laugh.

Lol, if I have had any positive impact on this game, at least I could make someone laugh.

Your response also made me feel a bit better, but I also wanted to understand your naked vote on me a bit better.....but I have a suspicion I might understand it more than I thought before.

Still want to here from Aisa though.

[Doctor Drew]

Mara, can you clarify what you mean by 'repeating similar opinions'? I skimmed the thread somewhat before I replaced in, and then a bit more after I officially joined, those were my quick slight observations about the game at the time.

And as far as my reaction to enchant and not Mafia. I saw the two guiltys right in a row, first was confused of the false guiltys and then why they posted basically at the same time. Then remembered it was hailing and really thought I caught scum in some sort of gambit, which is why I kept saying that besides me being town, there is one other big reason why this is impossible. Then I realized it was all probably a reaction test, and trolling by Not Mafia, and I stopped paying attention to it, especially after Not Mafia said he was a gunsmith.

I feel a bit dumb I didn't immediately think reaction test first, but not the first time that has happened sadly lol.

wait so you believed they were giving a "fake" guilty on you and you didn't react to them. Do you mean you remembered hail before starting to post today or after you posted few stuff?

I said I thought I caught scum lying because hail would have made any investigation impossible.

[Doctor Drew]

Actually I don't know that I like KItty not having any agency there.

Wasn't making sure Kitty was on a leash a thing? I am pretty sure you don't have ultimate authority over them.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: Not sure where that smiley face came from haha

[Doctor Drew]

I wish i could figure out how to quote a sentence.

I do like this from Drew:

This is the thing Herta, you keep sorting people but when asked for reasons you response is 'Oh I have reasons......' and then walk away like a super villain.

It made me laugh.

I want to bring this up again, first to demonstrate my amazing wit and sense of humor.

But also, and I went through Citadel Conflict again, and you seemed way more engaged to solve the game there Herta. There wasn't this vagueness I keep mentioning in that game that you have shown here, especially here on Day 2.

Even the way you wanted to wait for Farren to post again before you voted, even though it seemed obvious they were scum. That was a bit of 'better safe then sorry' town play, as opposed to your relative willy nilly 'whatever' play here.

A definite shift in tone in this game, from my perspective.

[Doctor Drew]

Yes that is correct, Drew. There is a definite difference in how I'm approaching this. That game was a lot easier to grasp.

____<<<

Kokichi, I have nothing to offer you on that. I dont know why you are blank to me. I earlier had typed out that reading your posts was like looking into a void, but i thought it sounded insulting and i didnt want to sound like that. But thats what it feels like to me.

And Drew both of us really needed to solve just two people, and it was 90% apparent how it was going to resolve. It was just an easier game, and, protecting against that 10% was a luxury that could be had.

I am talking about before we got in the dungeon(now that sounds weird out of context haha).

On Day 1 when trying to sort everyone, you were way more engaged then now. And yes that game was a bit more straightforward, but seems like more reason to be more explicit here if you have town intentions.

Just like KT, both of you seem like like you afraid to commit, and are coasting under the guise of 'I am bad player' or 'this is a harder game to solve'.

[Doctor Drew]

I am trying to suss what this difference in play means, two games played with you basically back to back, with a clear difference.

One you were town.

I didn't say evasive, though I guess you could perceive that. Funny you mention that word though, does remind me that you haven't explained your naked vote on me, third time I believe I asked to explain it. Even in the post when I voted Aisa and asked for clarification you gave nothing.

This is the vagueness, and I guess you can call it evasive, your words.

And yes, you are my main scum read now, so your wish is my command.

VOTE: Herta

[Doctor Drew]

Excellent.

Thank you Mr. Burns for that endorsement of your elim.

[Doctor Drew]

Well I do what I can.

You cooperation in this does not go unnoticed.

[Doctor Drew]

we are capped by how much mech knowledge we have rn. that's why I think we should unleash all the demons at night and see who was visited. it's the best way to work out the claims and figure out who's scum.

or we can keep scumhunting with hail and pick up two players to flip again, one by elim one by kitty's shot. but I'm not confident it's gonna wield great results.

So are you saying Mara shouldn't use any of their abilities?

[Doctor Drew]

Does Gimli saying they don't town read Aisa make you take pause at their possibly of a scum pair? Or are you just dismissing that as wifom.

And in the flip side of that, not sure I could see Herta and Aisa scum together (and I obviously feel like Herta is the scummier of the two, but I am also not opposed to voting Aisa).

I can't really comment about Enchant and Aisa, outside of there fake guilty, nothing really sticks out that could connect them.

Koki and Aisa I could see, if I remember correctly (and thise damn anime avatars have me all confused lol) there hasn't been much between them that isn't, too me at least, superficial.

[Doctor Drew]

I missed Gimlis 988, still thought they had more of a scum read on Aisa.

And my vote on Aisa was more for pressure on Herta, who I thought was weirdly protecting against Gimli(not like Gimli wanted to vote Aisa per se, but to convince Gimli that Aisa was town). Really saw it as buddying. But independently I can see Aisa as scum as well for reasons mentioned.

[Doctor Drew]

Koki and Aisa I could see, if I remember correctly (and thise damn anime avatars have me all confused lol) there hasn't been much between them that isn't, too me at least, superficial.

Starting to look like you can see anyone as scum to save yourself.

I was responding to who they thought who could possibly be scum with a possible Aisa scum.

Why so defensive?

[Doctor Drew]

Wait, Gamma is in this game, how wackadoo is this setup?(But good to play with you again, been quite awhile).

I have been somewhat following along when I can at work, but there is a lot to get through. Thanks for having the most activity when I can barely keep track. *Shakes fist*

Did I miss something though, Pirates are a scum faction, yes? So how is Kyo saying they are 3p? Or was someone else calling themselves a pirate?

[Doctor Drew]

Is there a jester-like or exe-like role in this setup?

Didn't we bring this up on Day 1 with all the TL stuff?

[Doctor Drew]

Marashu
Not_Mafia
Gimli
Enchant
Doctor Drew

These are the names that I am fine if they get voted out
I almost left myself in but decided I don’t think being voted out is wise given the presumable deficit of town members if there are 2 groupscum factions. I still won’t throw a fit if I do get voted out though, I mostly do that if I feel like I’m getting targeted for personal reasons or no reason at all.
You’ll also note Marashu is in there; I honestly don’t see why he isn’t in the discussion as a possible suspect.

This seems a bit of a hodge podge, covering people who have had real heat and the threat of elim(myself and NM), those who seem to be mainly town read(Mara, Gimli), and for good measure someone somewhat null(enchant).

This comes off very lazy, especially with no real reasoning for Gimli and Mara.....you mention you don't get their town read, well......tell us why?

And feels like you are offering yourself up for elim? Am I interpreting that incorrectly? Seems a bit 'woe is me'.

[Doctor Drew]

I prefer if KT shots herta either way fwiw

If I was really hammered then it is a moot point.

[Doctor Drew]

I prefer if KT shots herta either way fwiw

If I was really hammered then it is a moot point.

Vig Enabler, thought I was avoiding mis elim today, but everything happened when I was too busy to post.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew is an absolute potato for not claiming much earlier

Well, as stated I was the most busy the one weekend this game really pops off. When should I have claimed before that? Well obviously before hammer lol, but should have also not quick hammered before I could claim. Seems very suss, who were the last few votes on me?

Also, obviously I am with Gimli, Herta should be the next elim. I also could see Aisa, their town defense of me seemed....a bit forced? I still think claimed 3p should go, I forget who said it in a game awhile back, but 3p is anti town no matter how much they claim they are friendly.

Sounds crazy, but Gimli could really be scum with Herta, they were all buddy buddy until I had some issues with Herta.

Those are a few of pre hammer thoughts.

[Doctor Drew]

oh no you're town

I never even pushed you, drew. I'm sorry I didn't defend you and once again agreed with a thread consensus that killed town. what can I do lol.

Kill the '3p'.

Also, I should have been a better Neighbor to TL. But at least we join each other again in the Hood in the sky.

[Doctor Drew]

oh no you're town

I never even pushed you, drew. I'm sorry I didn't defend you and once again agreed with a thread consensus that killed town. what can I do lol.

Kill the '3p'.

Also, I should have been a better Neighbor to TL. But at least we join each other again in the Hood in the sky.

If Kyoko’s claim is truthful there is no 3p, at least not one that is worth killing.

Town loses when they trust non-town at their word.

[Doctor Drew]

What about NM 'guilty' on me? How should that be trusted as helping town?

I know we don't use the L word anymore, but what do they say about liars?

[Doctor Drew]

I'm not lying

We both know you are.

[Doctor Drew]

People trying to sell like pirates on our side, while in reality they are NOT.

^^^^^^^^

Seriously

[Doctor Drew]

I still think shooting NM is play.

while I would not cry if NM was dead (he is one of main reasons I decided to claim directly and appeal to everyone), but let me town side once more and help you here

It makes no sense. Why would you want a slot who will potentially leave game anyway dead. Its pretty much a waste of your resources Town needs a real scum group dead. Like now. Killing us wont change anything for you and your dire situation. It will not increase your time cause we're gonners regardless.

plus NM fakes a guilty every single game regardless of his alignment. He literally would have done same if he was town. His "anti town" play is not alignment/preference indicative.

regardless you really don't wanna shoot NM. don't tell me I didn't warn you guys about it.

Read this a few times, does this seem like someone who wants to help town?

She really calls it a 'dire situation' for town. NM and Kyo are not concerned with helping town.

Kill......all.....who.....are.....not.....aligned.....with town.

It pains me that I can't remember who originally said this in a previous game.

Pre Edit: LOL, so you finally publically admit the guilty was fake, holy fucking shit

[Doctor Drew]

I never believed guilty, nor anyone else i think.

But NM kept insisting(troll I know), and in a Pt Kyo would have known.

[Doctor Drew]

For my own closure, I just want to here NM say it was fake.....I am dead anyways

[Doctor Drew]

DGB in one of The Baker's games.

And she was right.

Yes, it was a Bakers game.....and I think it was them.

I have plenty experience being said 3p in Bakers games lol.

Can't let us stick around.

[Doctor Drew]

All that being equal, it keeps coming back to the fake claim.

I can't stand this bullshit that 'Oh NM is just a troll' or 'Hey dumbass, every play with NM?'

Why does he, and your faction, get a free pass for blatant anti town behavior?

This is like policy lynch behavior, and fuck NM going forward behavior if he plays like this(I think I have played with him, don't remember him as much as a troll though like this)

[Doctor Drew]

All that being equal, it keeps coming back to the fake claim.

I can't stand this bullshit that 'Oh NM is just a troll' or 'Hey dumbass, every play with NM?'

Why does he, and your faction, get a free pass for blatant anti town behavior?

This is like policy lynch behavior, and fuck NM going forward behavior if he plays like this(I think I have played with him, don't remember him as much as a troll though like this)

When I say fuck him, just playing a game with him going forward, really didn't mean it as a personal attack.

Seemed a bit harsh when I read it back, my bad.

Also, realized in my anger I used the L word, my bad again.

KT.....one, why not a shot too win when the lie has been admitted? Two, how would he have been killed N1 with hail?

[Doctor Drew]

Oh lol, for some reason I thought that was KT who posted that.

Was confused for a bit.

But, theoretically, can you win if NM is killed? Or vice versa?

[Doctor Drew]

Oh lol, for some reason I thought that was KT who posted that.

Was confused for a bit.

But, theoretically, can you win if NM is killed? Or vice versa?

well it reduces my chances for sure but yes theoretically I can win if no one kills me till I'm done checking all alignments or if check town and town wins

it won't do anything for town or scum if he is dead though

[Doctor Drew]

Kill

3p

Always

Full

Stop

[Doctor Drew]

I'm glad I decided to inspect Doctor Drew

Lol.

If that didn't happen I do believe we could have pulled it off. If I remember correctly Gimli only scum read me after that and how the day played out. I actually contemplated claiming my actual role(janitor) and go with the angle that who I subbed in for was clearly just a troll and picked an anti town role for the lulz.

Either way, it was fun, sorry Neighbor buddy TL, I did you dirty

[Doctor Drew]

My discard was also pretty good so that likely would have been a point of discussion if not for the meta janitor.

If I had the janitor I probably would have just picked a few people at random.

[Doctor Drew]

Post Edit: I subbed in after it was chosen.