HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

[Radical Rat]

Is it that you think those posts happened before she claimed the kill? Because they came after, if that's the problem you're having here. That half of the role was already on the table.

[Elements]

Also, Elements claimed when d2 right? Why weren’t they blackspotted n2? Why wouldn’t scum have wanted to have wanted to silence town!Elements?

~H

Because my role really isn't that strong

[Killing Joke]

You're not listening to me Harley.

I don't care that she didn't claim the killing part.

I care that she acted as though she had information, then claimed there was no information. THAT'S the contradiction.

No I do get that, my point is why she couldn’t do that as town? Look had Mala shot town, I would actually be seriously considering this but your argument is 100% hinging on a traitor existing and that’s tin foil and I’m not voting out my strongest tr because of tin foil.

~H

[Aisa]

4.06

Votecount 4.06

Malakittens (2):

Radical Rat, Gimli.

Elements (2):

Eiralox, Killing Joke.

Gimli (2):

BlueBloodedToffee, Malakittens.

Eiralox (1):

Elements.

Not Voting (2):

Bellaphant, Flea The Magician.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-02-12 15:30:00).

Co-Mod Notes

• Combined Mod ISO
  
• Flea The Magician is V/LA.
  
• Gimli has reached his post limit for today and has 0/10 posts left in his reserve. He can only post naked voted every 12 hours.

[Elements]

VOTE: mala

[Radical Rat]

She can't do that as Town because.... Her version of the truth has no benefit to scum, because it is nothing, so why would nothing need to be hidden?

The scum reason for this lie is simple. If she claims her Miller applies to non-alignment roles, and Gimli or Elements flips Town due to the result not matching the claims... She damns herself to elimination next, provided the game doesn't end first. If she claims she just has an alignment Miller, when it's become apparent there are no roles that check alignment... Then it becomes apparent that such a role doesn't exist.

The only option is to claim not to know, to not commit to either outcome, so she can't be held accountable. But she messed up by trying to keep options open later first, rather than leading with not knowing.


The motivation to lie here as Town is.... Just to fuck with us I guess???

[Bellaphant]

Targeting me or action Dan over Elly is weird.

[Radical Rat]

My guess re:kills is that they thought the vig was a bigger threat after Passenger flipped. But we won't know for sure until we see the PTs.

[Eiralox]

MalaKittens has already expressed their concerns.

Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, are you both willing to vote Elements today? I'll wait for the answer. If not, I'll just switch to Gimli, Killing Joke most probably as well, and call it a day.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not switching to Elements today, I'm wondering about Gimli/Flea/RR

RR, you happy voting with both Elements and Gimli?

[Eiralox]

VOTE: Gimli

Let's end it then.

Pretty sure this doesn't flip green, if it does, whatever. Elements is confirmed scum no matter the angle you study them from but whatever I'm tired.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't see how Elements is confirmed scum.

[Eiralox]

I don't see how Elements is confirmed scum.

I'm tired here.

They're so blatant that it's not even funny to me anymore, folk being blind. But as I said, I'm tired here. One mutineer is as good as another.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can you try one more time just to explain it real quick? Like, 3 bullet points.

[Killing Joke]

ELE in Otder for eira and kk to Jill yoy they need me on their side
I just don’t think it’s the right play to kill a cop after a scum cop has died
ESP with what looks like limited roles on towns side
I mean maybe you’ll flip scum with another role
And yoy lied to fabricate that
But the off chance you are town and voting yoy what seems to be melo
Nah

@RR, why do you think traitor!Mala makes this post? If she’s scum and Elements town, then why? Like it doesn’t really add up?

~H

[Eiralox]

Can you try one more time just to explain it real quick? Like, 3 bullet points.

1. Hopping between passenger and fenrir like it was going out of style
2. Putting Erynis at -1 with Enchant in game
3. Hammering Gamma with Enchant.

I can write a book titled 'apathy and selective communication' but the above is pretty succinct.

[Radical Rat]

I'm not switching to Elements today, I'm wondering about Gimli/Flea/RR

RR, you happy voting with both Elements and Gimli?

It does make me nervous, but at the end of the day I'm more confident about Malakittens.

If I'm wrong (and the game doesn't end), they can be tomorrow's problem.

If I'm right, maybe they bus a doomed partner, maybe they're just the only Town who can read, either way, I'll take what I can get, and we can sort out the rest later.

Risk of game over is very real, but that's true regardless of who we vote.

[Radical Rat]

ELE in Otder for eira and kk to Jill yoy they need me on their side
I just don’t think it’s the right play to kill a cop after a scum cop has died
ESP with what looks like limited roles on towns side
I mean maybe you’ll flip scum with another role
And yoy lied to fabricate that
But the off chance you are town and voting yoy what seems to be melo
Nah

@RR, why do you think traitor!Mala makes this post? If she’s scum and Elements town, then why? Like it doesn’t really add up?

~H

I literally cannot read this post, so it means nothing to me.

[Killing Joke]

Can you try one more time just to explain it real quick? Like, 3 bullet points.

1. Hopping between passenger and fenrir like it was going out of style
2. Putting Erynis at -1 with Enchant in game
3. Hammering Gamma with Enchant.

I can write a book titled 'apathy and selective communication' but the above is pretty succinct.

It’s true their voting is all over the place, the weirdest part was them saying Dan was vt and us goon when their role claim was vanilla parity cop and not neopolitan.

~H

[Eiralox]

Not really rat. If we listen to ya'll and flip Mala, game ends straight away. So. Goodbye. Imma be a dwarf.

[Killing Joke]

ELE in Otder for eira and kk to Jill yoy they need me on their side
I just don’t think it’s the right play to kill a cop after a scum cop has died
ESP with what looks like limited roles on towns side
I mean maybe you’ll flip scum with another role
And yoy lied to fabricate that
But the off chance you are town and voting yoy what seems to be melo
Nah

@RR, why do you think traitor!Mala makes this post? If she’s scum and Elements town, then why? Like it doesn’t really add up?

~H

I literally cannot read this post, so it means nothing to me.

She’s saying she doesn’t want to vote Elements because of Enchant’s flip I believe.

~H

[Eiralox]

Can you try one more time just to explain it real quick? Like, 3 bullet points.

1. Hopping between passenger and fenrir like it was going out of style
2. Putting Erynis at -1 with Enchant in game
3. Hammering Gamma with Enchant.

I can write a book titled 'apathy and selective communication' but the above is pretty succinct.

It’s true their voting is all over the place, the weirdest part was them saying Dan was vt and us goon when their role claim was vanilla parity cop and not neopolitan.

~H

I mean all this has already been hashed out to oblivion so that's why I'm so surprised there's still folk feeling Elements is crew.

Egh.

I'm sorta done, you think Gimli or Elements is the better vote here? I'm sold that Elements is, said it a lot, but at this point with 5/4 and Mala and Toffee not wanting to vote there my hands are tied, and still awaiting Bella's answer.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I think flipping me is never wrong since I'm terrible at mafia, but if you read the massive back and forth between the

hydra pair and std/elements/flea

, you'd find three better candidates at flipping scum than me. Particularly I don't think STD comes up with that HPE scumread + vote when he is playing town, it seems like trying to shift the direction of the thread.

WRT elements I think she started way too slow, and I bet she never ever spite votes KJ here as town. that she did that probably means she is mafia, she is with STD and ended up compromising her situation when pressured. This is a particularly bad post:

This is pretty comical at this point

Honestly, this is making me town you just from the shear volume of nonsense frog is spouting

townreading STD because frog is posting 'volumes of nonsense', even if frog was doing that (he wasn't) is not a real thought.

I could be wrong, but you know.

WRT flea I just don't see the townplay because he is not playing sharp, faers posts lack depth, but there are two other points I think: 1) faer was talking crap about inability to read nancy because of a supposed hydra roleplay that isn't real, which makes me think faer is lying about it because faer is unsure when faer was supposed to start strongly townreading the slot. 2) faer is not scumreading STD; in fact I don't remember a single post faer made that was directly to or about or trying to make sense of STD's alignment, so I take it as disinterested because faer is also not town.

This is interesting.

Townreading flea now I think

Gimli, just walk me through the progression of this read right here? I understand it was a while back, just entertain me.

i guess my point is you seem so confident i'm scum but you have had trouble reading me in the past, why are you so confident this time? maybe i'm the idiot and can't see what i'm doing differently but i don't really see it, this is my town game.

Interesting post from Fenrir regarding Gimli's ability in reading him.

[Killing Joke]

Not really rat. If we listen to ya'll and flip Mala, game ends straight away. So. Goodbye. Imma be a dwarf.

Mala’s a really terrible vote because it 100% depends on traitors actually existing and 0 proof of that. Even if there is a possibility, you always want to vote possible groupscum because IF NO TRAITORS EXIST, YOU’RE ESSENTIALLY VOTING OUT CONFITOWN.

~H

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Not really rat. If we listen to ya'll and flip Mala, game ends straight away. So. Goodbye. Imma be a dwarf.

This is what I'm worried about.