Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Is this basically why you think scum are pushing Lycanfire/Cakez?

i just think theyre the easiest people to push rn

though ig that makes ari probably town if thats true

mm

Can you give independent reads on these players?

[Asri Teroka]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

[Black]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

[Black]

But you think Cakez is a better vote option than Lycan?

Why did you jump on the Cakez wagon?

People on the Lycan wagon were moving to Cakez.

So your strategy is essentially follow the wagon? I'll have to check your ISO but I recall you jumping on a few other wagons too. Can you explain why you consider this town behavior from yourself?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

So your strategy is essentially follow the wagon?

I'll have to check your ISO but I recall you jumping on a few other wagons too. Can you explain why you consider this town behavior from yourself?

Um no. I think both Lycan and Cakez have been scummy, but I wouldn't just jump on any random wagon.
I'm not interested in trying to be another chef in the kitchen day 1 in a large.

[Firebringer]

oh, i just remembered i left firebringer out of my reads, he's my top scumread but only because he doesn't want to be townread

Would you mind sharing your actual read of Fire?

He actually top scumreads me and I very much approve of this.

[petapan]

oh, i just remembered i left firebringer out of my reads, he's my top scumread but only because he doesn't want to be townread

Would you mind sharing your actual read of Fire?

He actually top scumreads me and I very much approve of this.

thats right, im too scared to 1v1 you because i think id lose

[petapan]

Where?

Earlier in the game I believe it was Ali and peta that said I should be transparent with my thought process. And recently it was MT that said my posts were a bit on the heavy side xD

morning tweet has no right to criticize anyone for long posts she needs her ear scratches withheld for this

[Firebringer]

why would i ever fight u petapan
im ur number one fanboy

even if i scumread u for pushing me i would be like too overcome with fanboyism that id start arguing my role pm must be actually scum and i misread it.

[VP Baltar]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

You can vote here still.

[petapan]

why would i ever fight u petapan
im ur number one fanboy

even if i scumread u for pushing me i would be like too overcome with fanboyism that id start arguing my role pm must be actually scum and i misread it.

did you just claim town

[Black]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

You can vote here still.

I'm just not sure if this is bad scum play or bad town play

[Firebringer]

why would i ever fight u petapan
im ur number one fanboy

even if i scumread u for pushing me i would be like too overcome with fanboyism that id start arguing my role pm must be actually scum and i misread it.

did you just claim town

thats ur imagination.

[VP Baltar]

This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.

You can vote here still.

I'm just not sure if this is bad scum play or bad town play

Honestly, same. I just don't get why asri is being so frustrating when I'm actually trying to engage here.

I also think peta is being illogical in his response around someone he thinks is null at best. I need to probably take a break from this line of thought because I can feel myself getting tunneled on it.

[VP Baltar]

Firebringer, why Lycan over cakez?

[Firebringer]

ummm i dont know if you missed it but i argued cakez town like 5-6 pages ago.

[Firebringer]

The only thing about cakez i agree with is scum cakez pushes things he thinks he can get away with as scum. Other than that, I don't see how town cakez doesn't just bad push you here given:
A) I don't think cakez remembers past games with you
B) I think cakez skims and is prone to make surface level reads/takes and therefore saw u as being "fluffy" and pushes u.

So everything here lines up with Cakez town to me.
He is more prone about giving his opinions that don't look to me like its trying to impress or care what others think. He isn't trying to appeal to anyone in particular. He is just throwing his reads at the wall of this game and doing so badly imo.

Cakez town

[SirCakez]

also the Lycan wagon -

I can't even remember a post Lycan has made so it feels pretty whatever to me

i don't really want to lim in the hood today though

That's generally a pretty good sign someone is scum

it depends on the player for me I don't really know Lycan well so idk
some players I just never remember any of their posts and it doesn't mean anything for their alignment lol

VOTE: morning tweet she is scummiest person so far

when you wrote this post - what was your thought process for why Tweet was the scummiest person so far.

tweet's opening felt super forced and ungenuine
110 and especially 187

you seem to be way easier to get pissed off and more defensive and I feel like you are giving less of a shit about scumhunting

well the last game we played together I got shitpushed by scum and almost got eliminated because I was pretty passive and didn't defend myself so why do you think I would decide to repeat that experience.

who fucking knows?

you're currently my top SR and at E-3 and I am actively pushing for your elimination so your line about "not giving a shit about scumhunting" seems incongruent with the reality of the situation.

okay sure

[SirCakez]

My own take on the cakez wagon is that I kind of like what ari is saying, and that meta read doesn't seem crazy to me. Cakez is not great at scum from what I've seen (I love you cakez!), though others on this site seem to be able to vibe him much better than me.

If ari is town, the wagon comp isn't terrible either outside asri, which could be bussing if cakez flipped scum.

I do agree with Peta that this post was terrible
like what is Baltar even saying here?

(ily too i know im not great lol but also this was scummy boss)

What is unclear to you about what I'm saying? Ari makes a reasonable point that I can see skimming those games, and if she's town, that wagon comp isn't terrible. Klick is my top townread. Asri I can definitely see as a bus given their general reaction to a very reasonable ask.

What's confusing to you?

the main part is if you agree with all this stuff why aren't you voting me?

[SirCakez]

if i vote someone who isn't ari, will I be called scum for "backpedaling my push" and "giving up when I got resistance to it"?

this is the kind of shit I have to think about at all times regardless of my alignment bc someone always tries to fucking lim me

I don't know why you would bother caring to think about this as either alignment.

because i don't want to give scum fuckers more ammo to wagon me with?

[SirCakez]

I would posit that scum her would be more focused on arguing over reasons for scumreading.

ok but I feel like that's exactly what is happening. like the posts I just replied to her on were her debating on her meta and asking me to elaborate on my reasons for SRing her. it feels like she's mad I came for her so early off of not that much.

why would scum her be mad at u for coming at her with not much.

idk about u but when i am scum and i see a weak ass push by town on me with not much i laugh. I don't get mad.

i guess okay

[SirCakez]

ugh Fire and Ari are actually making good points
im moving my vote this post pinged me a bit ago

Sorry I zoned out of this game and there's a lot of pages to read now, I'll pretty much do it later

this feels like scum worried about being pushed for not posting

VOTE: gimli

[Firebringer]

because i don't want to give scum fuckers more ammo to wagon me with?

that seems silly my friend.
scum always have ammo somewhere, they make it up on their own.

u trying to give them less ammo actually just brings more eyes and attention on to u because now it looks like ur deliberately trying to not look sketchy to people. You bring more focus on yourself by being concerned how you are perceived than actually just going with what you think is the right move.

the name of the game is to find the scum.
not don't get eliminated by the scum.

if scum show thier hand making awful pushes on u, u should be glad they did so and be on the lookout for that.
ur mentality with mafia needs work.

[Aristeia]

who fucking knows?

The point you made was "Ari is mafia because she is behaving differently [from the last game I played with her since she is pushing back at me instead of just accepting my scumread]"

My point is that my play last game caused me to almost be eliminated on day 1 by mafia who was shitpushing me - my question is why you seem to expect me to

do the exact same thing that had a shitty outcome last time

[VP Baltar]

My own take on the cakez wagon is that I kind of like what ari is saying, and that meta read doesn't seem crazy to me. Cakez is not great at scum from what I've seen (I love you cakez!), though others on this site seem to be able to vibe him much better than me.

If ari is town, the wagon comp isn't terrible either outside asri, which could be bussing if cakez flipped scum.

I do agree with Peta that this post was terrible
like what is Baltar even saying here?

(ily too i know im not great lol but also this was scummy boss)

What is unclear to you about what I'm saying? Ari makes a reasonable point that I can see skimming those games, and if she's town, that wagon comp isn't terrible. Klick is my top townread. Asri I can definitely see as a bus given their general reaction to a very reasonable ask.

What's confusing to you?

the main part is if you agree with all this stuff why aren't you voting me?

I'm not convinced this is absolutely scum you. I don't think I have a strong record of reading you well. Just saying that ari isn't making completely absurd points as far as I can tell.

How do you feel about asri?