Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Gimli]

was someone pushing me?

no but there is going to be very soon with your current play

I've been defending you

[Gimli]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

[SirCakez]

SIRCAKEZ [6]: Aristeia, Alisae, Klick, Cat Scratch Fever, Asri Teroka, redFF

I promise you there is scum in this wagon

how are you so certain on this? who are the scum here?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Lycanfire

what are you doing?

I don't dislike the Lycan wagon as much as I do the Cakez one or Mistyxx one

whats wrong with the mistyx wagon?

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Lycanfire

what are you doing?

I don't dislike the Lycan wagon as much as I do the Cakez one or Mistyxx one

whats wrong with the mistyx wagon?

I townread the players that make it up, but I think Mistyxx is town

[SirCakez]

Good vibes:
Morning Tweet
furtiveglance
Cat Scratch Fever

can you elaborate on these three?

[SirCakez]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

why is Klick scum? you keep insisting on this and trashing peoples Klick TRs but what is the counterargument?

[SirCakez]

A lot of the issues I have with his play is that I don't think he's really interacting to sort people - it feels like he's just arguing with people to win arguments?

He's a journalist by trade so one of the things he does fairly well is to "frame" the issue in a way that's favorable to him for example:

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I don't really think these posts are helping him sort people - it's just like he decided he was the referee of the argument and ruled that he was being extremely reasonable and like how could anyone disagree with him?

my problem is I feel like Baltar does this every game

[furtiveglance]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

why is Klick scum? you keep insisting on this and trashing peoples Klick TRs but what is the counterargument?

Tone, reads, voting pattern

[Mistyx]

Can you give independent reads on these players [Lycanfire/SirCakez]?

will you be upset if the answer is "no"

Not upset lol, but I was a bit wary that you've been pretty good about giving independent reads on most players, but not when it comes to the two players that I happen to scumread

But I see you gave one on Cakez right after this lol

Can I bother you for a read on Lycan :)

pretty neutral tbh

i don't have much to say there in terms of their actual posts
maybe slightly >rand scum to say "i'm hyped for this playerlist" then lowpost but also totally willing to chalk it up to oog

[Mistyx]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

i now want to vote this because this looks like scum mad over a failed pocket

[Gimli]

SIRCAKEZ [6]: Aristeia, Alisae, Klick, Cat Scratch Fever, Asri Teroka, redFF

I promise you there is scum in this wagon

how are you so certain on this? who are the scum here?

big wagon with thin reasoning behind, early trenders are towny but the late people in it are sketchy slots, seems you're getting piled on

do you seriously need other people to tell you there's scum in your wagon? do you think you're being wagoned by six townies instead? I'm perplexed you're picking this post of mine, out of all the posts I made, to be sus on. if you're town you must certainly share my line of reasoning here??? like

[Black]

Klick; VP Baltar; MT

Gimli; redFF; SirCakez; Asri

petapan; Lycan; Taly; Mistyx

CSF; Firebringer; Aristeia

Alisae; furtiveglance

My attempt at a list. I’m unclear on a lot of people in the middle and the tiers surrounding the middle. I’m semi-confident in my top tier but less confident about my bottom tier. Right now I'm most comfortable voting Alisae or furtive.

[SirCakez]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

wtf? this post is scummy af. you dont get towncred just for defending me

[Black]

SIRCAKEZ [6]: Aristeia, Alisae, Klick, Cat Scratch Fever, Asri Teroka, redFF

I promise you there is scum in this wagon

how are you so certain on this? who are the scum here?

big wagon with thin reasoning behind, early trenders are towny but the late people in it are sketchy slots, seems you're getting piled on

do you seriously need other people to tell you there's scum in your wagon? do you think you're being wagoned by six townies instead? I'm perplexed you're picking this post of mine, out of all the posts I made, to be sus on. if you're town you must certainly share my line of reasoning here??? like

Good post, with good points. I too think there's at least one scum on the Cakez wagon. Wbu Cakez?

[SirCakez]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

why is Klick scum? you keep insisting on this and trashing peoples Klick TRs but what is the counterargument?

Tone, reads, voting pattern

what does "voting pattern" mean here?

[furtiveglance]

Baltar, explain Klick townread.

why is Klick scum? you keep insisting on this and trashing peoples Klick TRs but what is the counterargument?

Tone, reads, voting pattern

what does "voting pattern" mean here?

Klick's votes so far

[SirCakez]

is furtive using random.org to make reads

[Gimli]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

i now want to vote this because this looks like scum mad over a failed pocket

okay but don't you think it's strange that the guy is being piled on but picks my posts to be suspicious about? I'm a little flabbergasted, IDK what to make of it

[furtiveglance]

Not provably

[Black]

Klick's votes so far

Could you elaborate a bit? Which votes specifically, and what do you find scummy about the patterns

[SirCakez]

weird urge to try to get a Morning Tweet wagon going

[redFF]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

i now want to vote this because this looks like scum mad over a failed pocket

okay but don't you think it's strange that the guy is being piled on but picks my posts to be suspicious about? I'm a little flabbergasted, IDK what to make of it

your posts were sus af!

[Gimli]

why don't you search for scum inside your wagon instead of on one of the only people who are actually townreading you?

wtf? this post is scummy af. you dont get towncred just for defending me

okay you do you

but let me go back to this question: do you think your wagon has scum in it? if yes, who?

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Lycanfire

I spoke about this before but it's weaponising the hood to distract attention from himself and create the idea that there's scum in the hood, and that because he's pushing that idea it's obviously not him

I'd really like him to explain why he's townreading Cakez though.

I've had thoughts on this since last night but I went to sleep instead of responding.

Basically, I think my Cakez townread was poor. Early in Cakez's posting I thought his forwardness and willingness to bring a lot of opinions to the table was towny. I think this was biased somewhat by comparing him to Lycanfire in my head and thinking, 'well Cakez is being pretty free with his reads and Lycan isn't doing anything so if there's a scum between them it's more likely to be Lycan.' Which isn't a well-thought-out point.
In my last reads list I brought Cakez down a bit because I kinda realised this but still wanted to give credit to my initial gut ping.

I think ultimately I townread what you are scumreading. I ISO'd Cakez late last night and felt pretty similarly to you, that what he was doing could pretty easily be scum projecting false confidence. I don't feel strongly about it but with you saying it's his scum meta I kinda want to sheep you on it.

VOTE: SirCakez

I think Cakez is approaching the game pretty openly and don't agree with this read at all