Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Dunnstral]

I'm pretty unsure what I want to do in this game. My head is telling me that most worlds include STD scum, my head also tells me that his play matches what I would think scum play would look like re: norwee and shirou. My heart is telling me that STD sounds legitimately townie today.

I agree with this. Sircakez is at the bottom for me right now

[Dunnstral]

Gimli is really killing me here

I think I want to lim in StD, Gimli, Dunn

Can you give a short explanation why you think it is Gimli or me

Or point me to where you do

[Gamma Emerald]

Gimli is really killing me here

I think I want to lim in StD, Gimli, Dunn

Can you give a short explanation why you think it is Gimli or me

Or point me to where you do

Why are those the reads you ask about?

[Dunnstral]

Because I'm not interested in their reasoning for Save the Dragons

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not?

[Dunnstral]

Because I want them to explain why they scumread Gimli and me. And not Save the Dragons.

[Gimli]

Got a prod

[Gimli]

I'm trying to read back but it's a heavy read and I'm not too interested. If we don't get mafia again I'll try to be more involved

[sheepsaysmeep]

basically with cakez, like, his reads are so static/confident that they basically read as tunnels, yet they're not at all memorable. And you feel like if they were truly genuine tunnels then they'd come to mind immediately. Like bro tunneled STD far harder than TSQ ever tunneled anyone, but I didn't even realize that had happened until I went back and ISO'ed.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I'm trying to read back but it's a heavy read and I'm not too interested. If we don't get mafia again I'll try to be more involved

it's possible bro I did it eventually

and like very necessary/worth it lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

at least read some Iso's bro

[sheepsaysmeep]

cakez also does not mention people who aren't those strong reads, which feels very agenda-d

I was working on a huge post but it's a big struggle

[sheepsaysmeep]

1. entire cakez about TSQ:

-tells pooky/tsq (v/v) to stop arguing
-2065 forgot tsq in original readlist, "oh he's alright, townish tier"
-4955 "tsq has been pissed off in a pretty townie way like all game lmao"

basically surprisingly very little

[Thestatusquo]

wait let him cook.

[sheepsaysmeep]

2. cakez about haschel/sheep:

Spoiler:

Haschel Cedricson is a strong scum candidate as well

What the fuck am I coming back to?

With the caveat that I haven't read anything since my last post whoever did the challenge gets a few scumpoints from me. Going back now.

i feel scum is more likely to make this post than town

Conversely, I would like to ask Cakez about the impression he's gathered of T-Bone from the PT.

not much he seems amenable which is vaguely town (yes I know I SR Haschel WHATEVER)

okay leaving this game now
i have to be honest I'm extremely discouraged to even really engage or do anything with this game now because it seems like I will once again be dying day 1 and it's pretty hard to give a shit considering that

Legacy hero solve (into the mic)

StD, Pooky, Haschel, one of Furtive/Freedom sounds good rn

What the fuck am I coming back to?

With the caveat that I haven't read anything since my last post whoever did the challenge gets a few scumpoints from me. Going back now.

i feel scum is more likely to make this post than town

I have in my mental notes that I am leaning Haschel as scum but not for this post. Was it his opener? I gotta go back and get the receipt.

No this was like his third or fourth I think, but that wasn't really relevant to my read

-then likes that 1 post and has to explain it:

1542 was a good Haschel post

haschel scummish? townish?

Cakez what is good about Haschel post u tell me

it reminds me of his god tier solve post in Among Us

haschel scummish? townish? - early shitposts seemed scummy but he's been pretty good recently like the post I quoted that reminded me of Among Us

hi cakez
what did you like about the haschel post

I see his town thought process connecting the dots like it just feels like a town post and it reminds me of when he was town in among us and I very rarely remember specific performances from players

He could be snowing me for sure but I have like at least 5+ suspects before I'd think of that

-reverts:

a haschel wagon would be fire

i feel like haschel has to be scum here

yes very waffly on haschel but the PoE has gotten smaller with furtive and Titus both flipping town

nullscum - sheepsaysmeep

i think haschel/sheep is looking like a pretty good scumspect right now. could def be on team with norwegian/shirou
VOTE: sheep

looking at the remaining slots i feel like scum are inside (sheep, Dunn, StD)

i see some people saying sheep town but the Poe is getting small enough for me that i'm struggling to find scumspects elsewhere

I also want people to comment on Dunns post and my thoughts which can be summed up with the following syllogism points

1) That post is not fake. It is too detailed and too correctly aligned with what was happening in the actual thread.
2 There is no reason for Alisae and Shirou to have a PT that looks like that if they're scum-scum
3) Therefore dunn is town.

PEDIT: I don't you believe thats what that post says. It's just not what it says.

also +1 to this which is just leaving me at Sheep/StD

Everyone is saying I'm town. I've been right on two flips in a row, and no still no one is listening to me. Cakez what do you think about my argument that sheep is town?

PEDIT: Haven't read all of tbones wall but I was on shirou before you iirc.

if sheep is town who are the scum here?

I have strange unexplainable urge to kill Sheep

this is also a good candidate his play today just feels like scum trying not to get noticed

and I think Enchant is townier than Sheep or StD

out of like, 20+ meaningful references probably, maybe 2-3 are actual reasons for something + lots of poe mentions

just feels very definitely like viewing my slot as an achievable mislim to do at some point, constant shade / trying to lock below null

also think overall, starting to be like "sheep is poe" as endgame came, fits into a pattern of sussily trying to get rid of LHF, like with cakez using "furtive/Titus is w/v" which was pretty bad and then whatever cakez was saying about psyche which I definitely remember being pretty bad

[sheepsaysmeep]

not even gonna go through all the STD quotes which is the worst one

because literally every other post is like a tunnely post at STD

yet I just don't feel like he truly tries to convince people that STD is a wolf

even today, the mildness of std v cakez where one of them will definitely die, and they both wolfread each other, is sorta offputting. more like a bus where whether STD or cakez dies, both are relatively equal EV outcomes for them so they don't care an absolute ton

[Thestatusquo]

I'm most interesting in the shirou and norwee associatives with cakez but I've kind of been too lazy to pull them myself.

[sheepsaysmeep]

4. entire cakez about norwe

Spoiler:

i oddly have no read on Norwegian

norwe idk

norwe idk - literally have like no vibe from his posts which is weird because I usually do

(next one isn't really cakez about norwe, but there was a big big big gap without mention)

what if the scum team was some bullshit like STD + Enchant + Sir Cakes + NorwegianBoy

LOL in what world are StD and I scum together
and Enchant is not scum

town - norwegianboyEE

suddenly?? no natural progression:

Also I agree Norwe looks pretty scummy at this point regardless of where these two wagons flip

The scum team in this situation in my T/S theory would be Pooky/std/Shirou/some rando like Norwe

Why isn't Norwe/Psyche an option here?

ooh i would be good with Norwe getting swapped in and limmed

pushing harddddd for a psyche lim this whole time though, which has been mentioned

Also I think Norwee and Cakez have good partner equity

Wtf?

i still want to kill norwe too

norwegian is a scumfuck no doubt but why can't we just insta-challenge and kill him tomorrow Pooky?

blah blah says he would vote norwe and then votes him when the challenge happens

not much to say, it's just kinda bad lol

inexplicably 180's on norwe when times get tough for norwe, never says something meaningful about norwe at any point

[sheepsaysmeep]

5. cakez

6. t-bone
-953 "needs more"
-961 "vaguely town from PT"
-1013 T-bone makes towny post
-agrees with T-bone about some stuff
-lists as town in a readlist

7. pooky
-pooky scummy post
-votes pooky
-calls pooky wolf
-1322 calls himself and pooky not same alignment??
-lists pooky scum in readlist
-"shirou/pooky is v/w and shirou is the v; pooky pushing shirou just feels like a power wolf powering an active townie"
-his treatment of shirou v pooky is reallyyyyy really really bad. is basically on shirou's side, while trying not to be, until it becomes unworkable. could pull quotes for th is specifically.
-has started to wolfread shirou, and pooky wolfread was based on shirou v, but in readlist still puts pooky w shirou null (4185)
-is now pairing pooky/shirou as a wolfteam
-"pooky >50% wolf"

yeah I feel like what I've been looking for is him to ask someone what they think about his wolfreads / try to convince them, which never happens

and I think in all these reads, there's just a really unnatural staticism unless they have to change (I know I called tsq villager a lot earlier for being static but it's different)
I think next up in my list is gamma, who is like always confident villager for the fact that she challenged him 200 pages ago
and then enchant likewise permanently locked villa

[SirCakez]

Gimli is really killing me here

I think I want to lim in StD, Gimli, Dunn

Can you give a short explanation why you think it is Gimli or me

Or point me to where you do

i've kinda gone over this a few times but essentially this game is turning into "who do I think is town?" moreso then me scumhunting and I'm just coming down to the leftovers as my PoE pool

I tr t bone, i tr gamma, i tr tsq, and tsq is really convinced sheep is town
so i'm left with those three

[SirCakez]

sheep pretty sure we haven't played together before right?

[SirCakez]

I just do not think it makes any sense for both shirou and psyche to be actively bussing psyche in an almost won game state.

this is my hangup with Psyche slot/Gimli but Gimli's lack of literally anything to work with today is not giving me any confidence
earlier I said that I thought psyche/shirou could be SvS but I don't know like what tsq said that doesn't really make sense in the game state at the time it was in

[SirCakez]

ok and like if TSQ is scum this game I'm gonna be so devastated I haven't felt so good about a townread in a while

[SirCakez]

gamma getting pissed on page 225 feels more town then scum I think???

[SirCakez]

y'all i am not fucking scum here
why did Norwe literally swap me in for a scum buddy and then try to lim me if I was scum with them
like what was even that point of that?