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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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Kyoko is clearly being disingenuous. Sorry Kyoko. You keep saying that you can confirm that you can win with both town and scum and, as such, are no threat to anyone. You're conflating being able to win with townunder certain circumstanceswithneverbeing a threat to the town. It's called a third party for a reason; if your wincon aligned with town perfectly you'd be a happy fluffy town unicorn or something.-
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Enchant Survivor
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So anyway after consideration, i don't really mind keeping her around.Wizard-Mercenary
You need replacement/players ASAP? PM me! I almost always accept.-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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VOTE: Gimli
I’d also consider going back to Aisa given Gimli had this conniption after Aisa was the leading wagon with <48 hours left in the phase. But I want to kill off the blatant obvscum first."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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Oh hey, Aisa said what I have been trying to say!In post 1275, Aisa wrote: Kyoko is clearly being disingenuous. Sorry Kyoko. You keep saying that you can confirm that you can win with both town and scum and, as such, are no threat to anyone. You're conflating being able to win with townunder certain circumstanceswithneverbeing a threat to the town. It's called a third party for a reason; if your wincon aligned with town perfectly you'd be a happy fluffy town unicorn or something."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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Now explain your read on me."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
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For all purposes, you can consider me out of the game and solve the game without me. While I have to also solve the game and find scum for "another reason".In post 1275, Aisa wrote: Kyoko is clearly being disingenuous. Sorry Kyoko. You keep saying that you can confirm that you can win with both town and scum and, as such, are no threat to anyone. You're conflating being able to win with townunder certain circumstanceswithneverbeing a threat to the town. It's called a third party for a reason; if your wincon aligned with town perfectly you'd be a happy fluffy town unicorn or something.
Because of the nature of my win condition, the game won't get to a point where I have to decide between town or scum to win.
I also told you that if you're worried about my vote in meanwhile you can make a setup and control it as you wish. I wont mind.-
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Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
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and yes, I can confirm that I can win with both town and scum
and yes, I am really no threat to anyone (well depending on what you define a threat, but I wont have almost any direct effect on who wins this game)
I just wanna survive and win too and that's me being 200% honest.
I get that you're worried about what might happen late game, but town need to focus on killing scum right now. I am a distraction and my friendly neighbor role is proof of it.-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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Well you’re doing a poor job of killing scum by voting me."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Herta Mafia Scum
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I really dislike both Fuyuhiko and Gimli here.
It would seem Kyoko could be vigged? We can't have her in elo if she is what she says she is and confirming herself doesn't change that.-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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Doctor should be on Herta tonight."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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don't just shade with no reason, if you're scumreading me say why you're doing so. 'dislike' doesn't mean anything. maybe you dislike the way I post or how I play the game. is that a scumread? idk cause 'dislike' isn't an alignment lean.In post 1283, Herta wrote: I really dislike both Fuyuhiko and Gimli here.
It would seem Kyoko could be vigged? We can't have her in elo if she is what she says she is and confirming herself doesn't change that.-
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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I don't really know, Fuyuhiko. You seemingly kept pushing me without ever directly addressing my point as I recall and now you seem to think Gimli is scum, but I've seen scum!Gimli, and he made a lot less sense. He never explained anything. Here he looks like he's trying to rally the town around common causes. Like Kyoko 3p and voting for you.
But then you go and do things like calling out Kyoko for whatever she's doing in the exact same way that I think about the problem, so, rn I have no clue what is going on.
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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As for Kyoko, whether she needs to be voted out imo depends heavily on which 3p she is, and I haven't decided which one fits her behaviour best yet.-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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@herta: have you read my posts about kuzu's progression on Kyoko, from defending her all d1 to openvoting her on d2? and never expanding on that scumread because kyoko started to roleplay being targeted with his ability so he started to push her for it (then dropped it).-
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Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
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Oh fuck it.In post 1283, Herta wrote: I really dislike both Fuyuhiko and Gimli here.
It would seem Kyoko could be vigged? We can't have her in elo if she is what she says she is and confirming herself doesn't change that.
I'm a pirate and I need to plunder all living alignments in game. if I do I'll leave the game entirely. its a role steal.
I was intending to steal gimli's role town or scum his claim was that its a useless role anyway.
that's why I have to target scum too
and I wont be here in elo to decision make. If I am, I'm more interested to town side then for sure than to scum side cause of nature of my role.
its bad to claim this for town cause I could have absorbed scum role before claiming anything
but if you wanna just threaten me with vigging, at least have all the facts.
(also this means I'm not the only 3p in game. there are 2 of us. make whatever you want of the setup based on this info)-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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I think the implication is Herta finds us both scummy. Which is absolutely fine in my book.In post 1285, Gimli wrote:
don't just shade with no reason, if you're scumreading me say why you're doing so. 'dislike' doesn't mean anything. maybe you dislike the way I post or how I play the game. is that a scumread? idk cause 'dislike' isn't an alignment lean.In post 1283, Herta wrote: I really dislike both Fuyuhiko and Gimli here.
It would seem Kyoko could be vigged? We can't have her in elo if she is what she says she is and confirming herself doesn't change that."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Kyoko Kirigiri SheGoonShe
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thats why I said consider me dead for all purposes and focus on scum hunting. eliminating me doesn't change anything for town nor it will for scum-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I'm asking herta, but thank you for your opinion.In post 1290, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: I think the implication is Herta finds us both scummy. Which is absolutely fine in my book.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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You're too good at this game.In post 1095, Enchant wrote:
Your teammates?In post 1092, Kokichi Oma wrote:
At this point I think I'm fine with voting anyone except Marashu, Kitty and Kirigiri possiblyIn post 1090, Herta wrote: Counter wagon good.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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They aren't towny at allIn post 1097, Aisa wrote: I don't like the Herta wagon, think they're pretty Towny. The sparknotes version is that they don't really seem like they have an agenda to me, like I don't think they're actually trying to push through any elimination and sometimes seem content to just chill in thread, and I think this is town-indicative for them.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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I’m willing to let Kyoko do her thing atp.
Half-considering a self-vote; I think my role became junk the minute I claimed it and I probably do my alignment more favors dead than alive."I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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Wow, you're also very good at this game. I must be scum for voting you.In post 1097, Aisa wrote: Maybe throw in Kokichi into the scum bucket for just voting meHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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In the words of TL 'scum mindset'In post 1098, Herta wrote: Using hail again seems to me not a good play.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Kokichi Oma Survivor
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If you're actually being serious then we should just vote DrewIn post 1104, Not_Mafia wrote: Just reiterating that my guilty is 100% genuineHow do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu Goon
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My gut tells me town are more likely to say this before they’ve sufficiently explained their read solely because it looks absolutely awful to do this when that’s the case.In post 1097, Aisa wrote: Is anyone else interested in Fuyuhiko? That's the slot I most want right now. Could people explain why they actually townread that slot?"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
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