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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:26 pm

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In post 964, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 954, Eiralox wrote:
In post 946, PenguinPower wrote: I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall
don't like this

why should enchant be read by their unreliability in assessing themselves? (?????)

seems like word salad for the sake of framing to me
Are you feigning the ability to not comprehend words?

here ya go in an easy-to-digest version:

i say "enchant no do stuff"
enchant say "nuh-uh, i do stuff"
i say "what enchant say about enchant unreliable"
enchant say "why try if unreliable"
i say "i only talk about what enchant say about self not what enchant say about others"

that help? do I need to use smaller words?
As far as I can tell, your 1v1 with Eiralox started because he misinterpreted one of your posts. I see town do that all the time... it's hasn't been very alignment indicative in my experience, more reading ability indicative.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:27 pm

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sure - but they've doubled down and gone incomprehensive while pushing elsewhere and lining up a chain

that's certainly ai to me
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:31 pm

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I mean... you did immediately start to imply he was dense. Not that surprising he thought you were scum going aggro at him?
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:31 pm

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you are ignoring a lot of posts with that assessment
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:32 pm

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Which ones?
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:32 pm

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pretty much everything i was referring to after "double down" in my statement above
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:41 pm

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Penguin: Enchant saying he's trying doesn't mean anything because he's an unreliable narrator
Eiralox: That shouldn't matter, Enchant is already trying
Penguin: You misread 946
Eiralox: Penguin is arguing that Enchant is suss for not trying but he has been
Penguin: I don't actually suss Enchant yet
Eiralox: If you're town Penguin, you should be able to recognize that Enchant tries in his own way and your method of engagement is antitown

What part of this doesn't sound like two people talking past each other?

This site really needs to bring post numbers in quotes back.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:43 pm

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lol - that is a disingenuous interpretation in favor of eiralox and you are still ignoring everything else since that I've referred to.

thanks - but I'm done discussing with you after that.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:50 pm

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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:50 pm

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Well I'm not going to go in depth to explain to you your own posts. I think you're both town from this interaction - you wanted more readable content from Enchant, that's not an unreasonable ask.

As for the rest of , "pushing elsewhere" is only scummy if he's actually wrong about Ceph, which we don't know about. If you believe Ceph is town, then I don't see how he's lining up a chain, since a lot of this chain is predicated on Ceph flipping scum.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:53 pm

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I'm not sure of your experience on how scum pushes chains on town...but this wasn't predicated on anything...
In post 1157, Eiralox wrote: Oh shit!

Frogster died....

Calculating......

VOTE: Cephrir

Then we get PenguinPower.

And then.... we get the deepwolf.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:54 pm

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you seem to have an extremely charitable view of eiralox that I don't get at all and is not warranted by their posting in this game
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:55 pm

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at best you are being naive and I don't think you are given my experience with you
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:56 pm

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In post 1260, PenguinPower wrote: I'm not sure of your experience on how scum pushes chains on town...but this wasn't predicated on anything...
In post 1157, Eiralox wrote: Oh shit!

Frogster died....

Calculating......

VOTE: Cephrir

Then we get PenguinPower.

And then.... we get the deepwolf.
That's fair, I was thinking of when you said "lining up lims"
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:58 pm

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In post 1261, PenguinPower wrote: you seem to have an extremely charitable view of eiralox that I don't get at all and is not warranted by their posting in this game
In post 1262, PenguinPower wrote: at best you are being naive and I don't think you are given my experience with you
My read on Eira has always been metadriven, and I'm reading them town.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:29 am

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In post 1232, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I sort of hate how Enchant didn't unvote when he obviously expected scum!Alchemist to fakeclaim something, but with Frogs as the only one hard defending Enchant, my brain is telling me that Enchant doesn't make that kill
Pretty strange to assume like i command kills as mafia. I only do so when i am last.

Being susprised doesh't mean that i believed alchemist is town. That's actually opposite.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:42 am

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In post 1171, Save The Dragons wrote: i think he wants to know what your thoughts were
Easy with the benefit of hindsight but certainly don’t think Alchemist deserved the vote. Quite surprised 7 people hopped on the wagon.

With frogster now dead and an assumption that at least two (if not all 3 (if there are only 3)) scum are on the wagon. It means at worst if we vote from within Alchemist’s wagon we have a 33% chance of hitting scum and at best a 50% chance. That’s not Taking into account any play style or opinions of players.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:48 am

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In post 1213, Eiralox wrote: Man these scums really don't wanna die

Like

What should I do

Penguin is so sauve and caring

Whike Cephrir definetely didn't kill Frogster

What can I do?

Brickwall, you gonna wise up here?
Sure, what am I “wising up” to? The fact you are trying to get me off your scum buddy Enchant?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:00 am

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In post 1241, Cephrir wrote: This is the most sus wagon lmao
Yeah not loving the wagon on you.

I think the fact CSF is trying so hard to push Ceph whilst ignoring the enchant wagon actually makes me think the enchant wagon is correct.

I would ask for an enchant lim today.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:09 am

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In post 1268, Brickwalll wrote:
In post 1241, Cephrir wrote: This is the most sus wagon lmao
Yeah not loving the wagon on you.

I think the fact CSF is trying so hard to push Ceph whilst ignoring the enchant wagon actually makes me think the enchant wagon is correct.

I would ask for an enchant lim today.
If we're doing pre-flips, look at T3. Keeping their hands clean at the moment but motioning to vote Enchant at the same time. That makes me think Cephrir/T3 is correct.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:16 am

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you all bad
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:17 am

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In post 1247, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why I think Eiralox is town? I've modded a scumgame of his somewhat recently, and he fit the profile of a passive/lurky scum player. He feels more spontaneous and relaxed here. I think it's unlikely that he has leveled up his scumgame in such a short amount of time.
I played with town Eiralox and they posted big paragraphs and walls
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:18 am

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I haven't played a completed game with Eiralox yet as far as I know, but I think they're town for the positions they're taking wrt other players
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:19 am

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In post 1270, Enchant wrote: you all bad
Guilty as charged.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:22 am

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In post 1269, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1268, Brickwalll wrote:
In post 1241, Cephrir wrote: This is the most sus wagon lmao
Yeah not loving the wagon on you.

I think the fact CSF is trying so hard to push Ceph whilst ignoring the enchant wagon actually makes me think the enchant wagon is correct.

I would ask for an enchant lim today.
If we're doing pre-flips, look at T3. Keeping their hands clean at the moment but motioning to vote Enchant at the same time. That makes me think Cephrir/T3 is correct.
I was explicitly asked whether I scumread Enchant or Cephrir more, and I said that I scumread Enchant more. I was
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