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[Alianna]

2.05

Votecount 2.05

Enchant (E-2): Brickwalll, Save The Dragons, PenguinPower, Cephrir
T3 (2): Dionysus, furtiveglance
Cephrir (1): Enchant
Eiralox (1): T3
Dionysus (1): Eiralox

Not Voting (2): Not_Mafia, Cat Scratch Fever

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-02-20 14:58:31).

[Dionysus]

234 is still a scummy post, I'm not going to rehash that >_>

So my main take away from the last few pages is:

1) frogster vs Cephrir is really fucking funny. Thank you so much for replacing in as it has made this day very entertaining
2) frogster is going to extreme lengths to dig up dirt on Cephrir which I think is very +++town. It means he legit believes in his read because if Cephrir flips town then this would look so bad.
3) I townread alchemist already but I definitely feel sure he is Town now. He has been engaged and scum hunting and I have liked his analysis. So not that the question is relevant anymore if I had to hammer either him or NM I'd go NM.

4) I still think Cephrir is scum
5) although I think Cephrir's enchant analysis is interesting

6) this could be svs but it was largely ignored or disagreed with so maybe they are wrong

Doesn't vote either. Is that an inconsistency?

I didn't vote Ceph here because my vote was already on T3 who I'm quite sure is scum too This is not an inconsistency.

[Cephrir]

if you're so sure why aren't you doing more about it

[T3]

Reads changing from one post to the next is fine, but there should be a consistent thread that you can follow to make sense of the person's thought process. T3's reads have been... well not that.

what do you think about my content today?
also, can you point to some specific examples. i know there's the alchemist one but i think i already explained that.

@Dionysus

[T3]

Dionysus scumread my read progression on Alchemist. My read progression was:
Solid townread early Day 1
Frogster 1v1’s Alchemist, I notice scummy behavior in Alchemist too
Alchemist responds to my points
I decide to vote Eiralox
It is at this point that Dionysus scumreads me for being inconsistent

He immediately jumps to the conclusion that I’m scum with Alchemist looking to avoid his wagon.

[T3]

Dionysus assumes that because I observe scummy behavior in someone, that automatically means I scumread them.

[Dionysus]

Reads changing from one post to the next is fine, but there should be a consistent thread that you can follow to make sense of the person's thought process. T3's reads have been... well not that.

what do you think about my content today?
also, can you point to some specific examples. i know there's the alchemist one but i think i already explained that.

@Dionysus

Sorry not ignoring this - just busy with work today. Will reply properly when I'm finished.

[T3]

np

[Brickwalll]

How do we feel about Enchant? Alchemist died voting for them.

VOTE: Enchant

One dead town said Enchant was scum, and the other dead town said Enchant was town. Why are you sheeping Alchemist over Frogs?

I sheep nobody.

Because I think enchant is scum.

[Brickwalll]

VOTE: Dionysus

Talk me through your u-turn on Alchemist in D1? Specifically why your u-turn only occurred after he had 4 votes on him. Because on two separate occasions, roughly 500 posts apart, you read alchemist as town.

They then had 4 votes placed on them and then you thought they were T3’s scum partner?

[Cephrir]

dionysus, you've been voting t3 for literally the entire game but i didn't really see you mention the scumread hardly at all until 1080:

This push on Enchant seems like Alchemist is caught scum trying to divert attention away by starting a 1v1? Maybe?

Was this post an actual scumread? Because if it is then this:

VOTE: Eiralox
I think I'm gonna put my vote here for now.

is weird.

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I've read through alchemist ISO and it isn't as townie as I remembered. The humblebrag on the scummie nomination in #222 is something I've got in the back of my mind. I think there is a decent chance they're partners. T3's reads have been a bit all over the place. I get it, day 1 is hard, but he's not a noob. His progression on alchemist for example just doesn't make sense only for him to not vote him, unless they're scum together and T3 doesn't want to vote his partner. Alchemist also replied to eiralox's post of T3's messy reads and didn't actually acknowledge this inconsistency.

and this seems predicated on his being partnered with alchemist. so like... sup?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Dionysus

A dagger to my heart </3

But I get it. I've been kind of mia so far today. Truth be told I've been struggling to follow this game because it is pretty much almost entirely vibes and I'm better at hunting scum with logical deductions.

Having said that, I still think T3 is scum. Their contributions may be better than mine in terms of volume, but not in terms of content. Reads changing from one post to the next is fine, but there should be a consistent thread that you can follow to make sense of the person's thought process. T3's reads have been... well not that.

i guess i can try to assess whether t3 is inconsistent, but i feel like a ton of players in this game have been inconsistent so it's weird to pick on him for it

[Cephrir]

there are a few weird posts i guess

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: dionysus

[Brickwalll]

How do we feel about Enchant? Alchemist died voting for them.

VOTE: Enchant

One dead town said Enchant was scum, and the other dead town said Enchant was town. Why are you sheeping Alchemist over Frogs?

I sheep nobody.

Because I think enchant is scum.

@CSF see 1135. He was right about Frog, he is right about me so I feel like he had his finger on the pulse. Happy to back his reads for now whilst we have little to go on.

Enchant’s shithousery is scummy and happy to vote him out. Also happens Alchemist thought they are scum so think we should avenge alchemist the best way we know how - lim Enchant.

I also think Dionysus is scummy. It happens they aren’t on alchemists town list so again I think it is a good place to put my vote.

I would be happy voting either of these two today as it currently stands.

[furtiveglance]

This game's become a little less interesting to me recently

I'm happy to move to Cephrir or Not_Mafia if they're gonna get more votes than T3

Does anyone have a question for me? I find it engaging to talk to specific players

[PenguinPower]

boy this thread died.

should eiralox and i becomes mortal enemies again?

[PenguinPower]

I don't think he's really trying to understand the mindset of T3, which is scummy. He's just pointing out something that T3 did. Do you disagree?

why you no vote?

[PenguinPower]

sure is hard to push enchant to e-1

[Enchant]

sure is hard to push enchant to e-1

ye

[Cephrir]

well you see many players are townreading enchant because... uh... ???

[T3]

i will sap every single drop of productive discussion from today before i vote enchant

[Enchant]

well you see many players are townreading enchant because... uh... ???

I think like 1-2 do.

[Enchant]

Kinda dissapointing.

[Alianna]

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