Newbie 2111 - Know Your Skittles! (Game Over)

[Human]

And Jesus it took me took long to post that because of updates

[Black]

i could lie about being a pr to bait a counter claim if i were scum

Ok, yeah I can see that, but that would definitely end in you being eliminated, whereas a VT claim is your best option to avoid that

Do you think Std is working hard to avoid elimination?

Absolutely. He has posted more content since being at e-1 than he has all day. Are you not seeing the flurry of posts as suspicious at all??

[Save The Dragons]

i think the idea is that there's a possibility, not that i would or wouldn't

[Save The Dragons]

that's only because someone at work tested positive for covid so i'm wfh today otherwise we wouldn't be having this convo

[Save The Dragons]

because it's hard to post a lot on my phone

[Save The Dragons]

i also don't think that's true

i think that you're getting fussed over me changing my vote once and ignoring what content i have provided.

[MegAzumarill]

i could lie about being a pr to bait a counter claim if i were scum

Ok, yeah I can see that, but that would definitely end in you being eliminated, whereas a VT claim is your best option to avoid that

Do you think Std is working hard to avoid elimination?

Absolutely. He has posted more content since being at e-1 than he has all day. Are you not seeing the flurry of posts as suspicious at all??

Nope
Do you not think you would post more if you were on E-1?

[MegAzumarill]

Like that's normal regardless of alignment, and it's not trying to be particularly convincing to move someone's vote off

[Human]

What StD is doing is certainly weird but I still think Weuler is a better bet

[Weuler]

i figured it would be good to let town know i'm not a PR so killing me is fine if they so choose.

I don't see how this makes sense. If you are town, then you are saying that you want to make it easier for town to eliminate you, instead of pursuing another wagon?

[Weuler]

What StD is doing is certainly weird but I still think Weuler is a better bet

What is weird?

[Save The Dragons]

i don't care if i die because sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. i would prefer not to die but i'm if people want to lim me i'm not going to hold the game up by not claiming. i've also been speedlimmed in a game somewhat recently and it was not pleasant.

[Human]

What is weird?

The voting

[Black]

I think StD's actions over the past couple days are wolf motivated. The back and forth between Elements/Weuler especially. StD's main reason for thinking Elements is scum is because Elements has a "garbage" read on him. In the same post he admits that, he says Weuler is giving him null vibes:

i just got new kittens and have had a busy weekend, will try to be more active.

im pretty null on weuler and arko at this point and think Elements is just scum. their read on me is garbage and they keep pushing it like it's obvious but they can't explain it themself.

i'm still having trouble placing other slots into reads.

Then he ends up voting Weuler claiming "something feels off", and that Weuler was more "jokey" in another game they played together, but he backs off of this stance pretty quickly, and his reasoning is that "Weuler actually did make a joke"

what made your read go form scum to null?

Weuler pointed out they posted a joke which made me rethink

So at this point StD has Elements as a scumread and Weuler as a null read. But he then proceeds to switch between the two randomly and reveals that he just wants one of the two eliminated, doesn't matter which, and would be willing to wagon either of them

i think both could be scum so i'm waffling on both of them and more interested in the one i can potentially get limmed

StD has also admitted he won't vote for a TR when he SRs someone. Voting for a nullread when he has a scumread on someone else is fishy to me too and makes me think StD doesn't want to vote for a SR but instead he's willing to vote on whatever wagon has the most mobility

I'm not really going to vote for a town read when I sr someone else so that seems a little disingenuous but I certainly could be more active in interacting with people that is fair

I understand I could be wrong here but I want to trust my gut about my Elements read. And if I'm going that route then my gut also tells me StD is scum

[Black]

i also don't think that's true

i think that you're getting fussed over me changing my vote once and ignoring what content i have provided.

It's deeper than that for me. But I can promise you I haven't been ignoring your content. I just used to look at your content in a townie light, and after rereading this morning that just wasn't the case

[Black]

Like that's normal regardless of alignment, and it's not trying to be particularly convincing to move someone's vote off

I suppose you're right, posting a lot at e-1 is NAI, but I personally don't think a townie should wait until this point to go into defense mode

[MegAzumarill]

Like that's normal regardless of alignment, and it's not trying to be particularly convincing to move someone's vote off

I suppose you're right, posting a lot at e-1 is NAI, but I personally don't think a townie should wait until this point to go into defense mode

I mean it looks to me they went into it the next time they posted after not having exactly one vote on them?

[MegAzumarill]

So I don't really see where you're coming from.

[Black]

I'm not seeing that?

VOTE: weuler

willing to do elements too

im not going to come up with a flashy analysis wallpost here so if you think i'm scum go ahead and lim me and then consider elements and weuler tomorrow.

This is considered "defense mode" to you?

[MegAzumarill]

I mean it does address the votes on them no? What do you mean by defense mode?

[Aureal]

Okay I really don't want to quote Black's 785 and snip it down from a phone. So I'm just going to say that the opening of the last paragraph does not seem to be true. Dragons has never said anything about me other than answering Python's question about the supposed scum slip (which I did find a bit weird since it wasn't addressed to him), let alone expressed an early townread. So where is this early on "mindmeld" with him idea coming from?

[Black]

I mean it does address the votes on them no? What do you mean by defense mode?

Well he's not really defending himself here is he? He actually seems pretty defeated and accepting of his fate

If I'm town in this situation then I'm going through the thread to strengthen my scumreads. I think StD isn't confident in his scumreads at all and isn't able to do this, and my gut tells me it's because he's a wolf

[MegAzumarill]

I thought you said earlier he was acting to not get himself limmed and that made the claim make sense?

[Black]

I thought you said earlier he was acting to not get himself limmed and that made the claim make sense?

That was after he went to e-1. My post was about when he went to e-2

[MegAzumarill]

That's the same page within just a few hours. I don't think that's a particularly meaningful separation.