Micro 1070 | a micro normal | Endgame

[biancospino]

Votecount

VC 1-V

Aureal (3 = E-2):

Herta, Wavelength, mykonian

Andante (1):

Aristeia

mykonian (1):

Aureal

Klick (1):

Andante

Datisi (1):

Alisae

Alisae (1):

Datisi

Not Voting (1):

Klick

With 9 alive, it takes 5 for an execution.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-02-26 00:51:00)

mod notes:

• I'm counting by hand, let me know if there is anything wrong.
  
• The combined mod ISO can be found here.

[Datisi]

okay

i'm not informed

there, i can't be a wolf, i'm conftown now

[Alisae]

roles have purposes in setups

the person who sometimes uses roles whose sole purpose is to fuck with the players is telling you to not outguess the mod? amazing. incredible. who would've thought.

Not everyone is going to design games with this intent. I genuinely don't see how you think this is not productive.

1) some will, and we don't know what kind of designer our mod is
2) do you still wanna accuse me of faking my own mindset?

I'm just saying what I would do and I am acting upon it. I've thought about and made predictions on what the setup looks like and I want to compare that to what actually happens,

what even is the point of this 2nd part btw? Why the fuck would I convince you you're a wolf. Game is about convincing the other people that you're a wolf. Convincing you you're a wolf does nothing. I think you're shitting on me because it makes sense for a wolf to want to do so in this situation and I feel like you're not trying to critically think about things.

[Alisae]

okay

i'm not informed

there, i can't be a wolf, i'm conftown now

What kind of fucking egregious impression do you have of me to think that I think wolves won't claim informed and they're automatically cleared if they don't???
You're labelling me in bad faith here

[Datisi]

i am trying to critically think about things. but unless you explain to me why scum would or wouldn't have the role you claimed, without it being the vague ~oooh mod wouldn't put this in game~ i'm gonna think you're making it up

[Alisae]

I would 100% expect a wolf who knows my role to try to shut me down here. I'm not looking for who doesn't claim, I am looking for who DOES claim as well as HOW MANY people claim. You're painting me in a bad light here and this push is completely in bad faith here.

I actually would prefer it if wolves did not claim to be informed because I think I will be able to spot that based off of what actually happens

[Alisae]

i am trying to critically think about things. but unless you explain to me why scum would or wouldn't have the role you claimed, without it being the vague ~oooh mod wouldn't put this in game~ i'm gonna think you're making it up

ANOTHER PLAYER IN THE GAME CAN LITERALLY CONFIRM THAT I'M TELLING THE TRUTH

[Alisae]

What the FUCK DATISI

[Datisi]

okay

i'm not informed

there, i can't be a wolf, i'm conftown now

What kind of fucking egregious impression do you have of me to think that I think wolves won't claim informed and they're automatically cleared if they don't???
You're labelling me in bad faith here

no, i'm making a point to how useless your tirade it

if you keep saying "btw both wolves would def have this role" then yeah that is what i am expecting to happen, because otherwise what is the point of claiming

i mean, unless you can accurately guess how many townies have the role AND how many wolves have that role, there is no fucking point

alternatively, if you have a way of verifying whether someone is or isn't your role, which would at least explain the nonsense you're doing but it's still a very bad approach

[Datisi]

i am trying to critically think about things. but unless you explain to me why scum would or wouldn't have the role you claimed, without it being the vague ~oooh mod wouldn't put this in game~ i'm gonna think you're making it up

ANOTHER PLAYER IN THE GAME CAN LITERALLY CONFIRM THAT I'M TELLING THE TRUTH

i don't think you're lying about your role LMAO

i think the "x number of townies and y number of scum are gonna have this role because i can read the mod's mind" is the part that's made up

[Alisae]

i mean, unless you can accurately guess how many townies have the role AND how many wolves have that role, there is no fucking point

I can and you should be able too as well

[Alisae]

It's not that hard if you think about it!

[Alisae]

That's literally my entire point.
I have given LOTS of thought as to how many townies AND WOLVES have this role.
So I want to push through massclaim of informed y/n and see what happens

[Datisi]

i am thinking about it and i don't get it!

[Alisae]

I feel like you're don't want to think about it!

[Alisae]

i think the "x number of townies and y number of scum are gonna have this role because i can read the mod's mind" is the part that's made up

If there are 2 wolves, then how many town can we expect to share the role?
1? Nah, I think that's too little.
2? I think 2 would be the bare minimum.
3? Sounds about right
4? A little bit too much
5? Way too much but possible if both are wolves
6? you're crazy

[Alisae]

This isn't me saying "I can read the mod's mind"
this is an

EDUCATED GUESS

[Datisi]

k

i don't think this game is getting solved via educated guesses

i'm gonna dip out the convo and see if anyone else has any idea

maybe i AM the insane on here who knows

[Alisae]

There are other reasons why I think both wolves have my role but I think mentioning these are SUPER anti-town so I'm going to not but I think one can use their head and deduce what this is without me saying it!

[Alisae]

This isn't me saying "I can read the mod's mind"
this is an

EDUCATED GUESS

I would say the key thing to remember here is that this game is normal and there must be VTs and I would think that the # of VTs balances out the # of players who have my role

[Alisae]

like a lot of my educated guess comes from me trying to think "ok, so how many players are not informed vs how many are out of 7 villager roles"

Remember, this is a game that was advertised as COMPLEX

[Alisae]

COMPLEX BTW

[Alisae]

Like I actually cannot see how both wolves don't have my role.
If I'm designing this game and I tell a player "hey, many players in your game have 2 fruit vendor shots and 2 messenger shots" in a GOD FORSAKEN MICRO, I'm putting 2 wolves into the setup with that role.

[Datisi]

and i'm not

wowee

[Aristeia]

I think you are both town and we should just flip herta and if he is mafia we should flip mykonian