Mini Normal 2289 - Postgame

[Alianna]

3.07

Votecount 3.07

Brickwalll (E-2): T3, furtiveglance, Cephrir
Not_Mafia (2): Eiralox, Brickwalll

Not Voting (4): Not_Mafia, Enchant, Firebringer, Save The Dragons

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-02-26 22:40:17).

[Cephrir]

Also why is no one bothering to try to engage with me to get a read on me. Did everyone have penguin on lock town or something.

No one has once called me scum/town or anything. I am very confused on where everyones position on my own slot is at .

I was leaning town on your predecessor and you haven't shaken that. If anything your posts on this page are reinforcing it

[Cephrir]

How does everyone feel on Eiralox

I landed on meh. Pretty weird player either way but I could see it.

[Cephrir]

I'm still kind of recovering from the mental damage of two players I kinda suspected claiming mason, call me back in the morning

[Save The Dragons]

Wow you suspected me rude

[Cephrir]

Be less sussy, baka

[Alianna]

DragonEater70 replaces Eiralox.

[furtiveglance]

Welcome DragonEater70. Have you read any of the game?

[DragonEater70]

Welcome DragonEater70. Have you read any of the game?

Nope! I would really appreciate if someone can make a summary for me with bullet points of all, calims, big wagons, etc., preferably with links to the relevant page/post.

I'll also try skimming through some of the game but I don't think I'll be able to read all 70+ pages in full.

[DragonEater70]

Claims*

[DragonEater70]

For example, why are you currently voting Brickwall?

[furtiveglance]

3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.

T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.

Everyone else claims VT.

[furtiveglance]

For example, why are you currently voting Brickwall?

Enchant claimed a Not Vanilla result on Brickwall, who then claimed quite an obscure PR (Psychologist) with a useless Night Action.

[DragonEater70]

Okay that is a really weird role.
Do you believe it's unlikely Alianna would include obscure roles on the setup? (sorry of these questions are not allowed, but I didn't see anything against them so I decided to ask)

[DragonEater70]

3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.

T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.

Everyone else claims VT.

Okay interesting. Can I ask why everyone mass claimed? And do goons turn up as vanilla or no vanilla in Neapolitan investigation?

[DragonEater70]

Could you please link to where individual people claimed, if it's not too much of a hassle? Otherwise I'll probably look for it myself but it would be a bit of a pain.

[furtiveglance]

Okay that is a really weird role.
Do you believe it's unlikely Alianna would include obscure roles on the setup? (sorry of these questions are not allowed, but I didn't see anything against them so I decided to ask)

It's more that I don't buy the claim as a whole given that it was prompted by a NV investigation. I think such a role

could

be included in a Normal game, but I think at someone among the PR claims is lying at the moment, otherwise there would be 6 PRs total in 13, which seems a lot, and I trust the Masons the most because I think it would be too risky to fakeclaim in a gamestate where they didn't really need to. The nature of the claim also seemed legitimate. And the fact that Enchant's claimed result triggered Brickwall's makes it less likely Enchant is lying.

[furtiveglance]

3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.

T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.

Everyone else claims VT.

Okay interesting. Can I ask why everyone mass claimed? And do goons turn up as vanilla or no vanilla in Neapolitan investigation?

I think the actual result is Vanilla Townie or not Vanilla Townie.

Could you please link to where individual people claimed, if it's not too much of a hassle? Otherwise I'll probably look for it myself but it would be a bit of a pain.

I don't want to do that!

[Alianna]

Okay that is a really weird role.
Do you believe it's unlikely Alianna would include obscure roles on the setup? (sorry of these questions are not allowed, but I didn't see anything against them so I decided to ask)

You're allowed to ask those questions, and you're free to speculate about that topic. I'm just not allowed to answer those questions or confirm/deny any of your speculations.

[DragonEater70]

Okay that is a really weird role.
Do you believe it's unlikely Alianna would include obscure roles on the setup? (sorry of these questions are not allowed, but I didn't see anything against them so I decided to ask)

You're allowed to ask those questions, and you're free to speculate about that topic. I'm just not allowed to answer those questions or confirm/deny any of your speculations.

Yeah, obviously you can't confirm or deny anything as a mod.

[DragonEater70]

3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.

T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.

Everyone else claims VT.

Okay interesting. Can I ask why everyone mass claimed? And do goons turn up as vanilla or no vanilla in Neapolitan investigation?

I think the actual result is Vanilla Townie or not Vanilla Townie.

Could you please link to where individual people claimed, if it's not too much of a hassle? Otherwise I'll probably look for it myself but it would be a bit of a pain.

I don't want to do that!

Fair enough. Guess I have a bit of research to do, so it might take a while before I can give some serious content.

[T3]

The balance between ‘obscure’ roles and ‘not obscure’ roles has been very tilted towards the obscure side in recent times. Mods have tried pushing the boundaries of normality, so you almost never see a Cop or Doctor without significant modifications.

[T3]

All the PR claims can’t be true. Otherwise the setup would have very likely been denied by the reviewers. This is unless scum have some insane powers.

[furtiveglance]

The balance between ‘obscure’ roles and ‘not obscure’ roles has been very tilted towards the obscure side in recent times. Mods have tried pushing the boundaries of normality, so you almost never see a Cop or Doctor without significant modifications.

I prefer open setups personally. Normal games focus too much on setup spec and then postgame everyone yells at the mod about the setup.

[furtiveglance]

All the PR claims can’t be true. Otherwise the setup would have very likely been denied by the reviewers. This is unless scum have some insane powers.

Yeah. I think 4-5 are most likely. Is your reason for thinking 2 claims are fake purely mech-based or reads-based as well?