Newbie 2113 - Shea it ain't So! | Game Over!

[Black]

Skitter is looking at this through a weird lens IMO. She's not here to defend Emp like she normally is and he's just flailing

[Black]

I always miss cool pagetop opportunities

[Black]

Actual game content on pagetop is lowkey depressing

[Black]

Also why is Emp still refusing to acknowledge that he's scummy according to his own logic about being careless while solving?

[skitter30]

Skitter can you please now concede that empathice is full of it? Their push on me is based on me generating a read of herta on demand on PAGE 2 and that being indicative of a scum mindset not actually interested in solving the game. They accept my explanation for the mistake is fine. This is why they have been obsessively pushing me the whole game.

Are you for real

Uh i found that sequence of events scummy for the same reason so

[Dionysus]

Skitter can you please now concede that empathice is full of it? Their push on me is based on me generating a read of herta on demand on PAGE 2 and that being indicative of a scum mindset not actually interested in solving the game. They accept my explanation for the mistake is fine. This is why they have been obsessively pushing me the whole game.

Are you for real

Uh i found that sequence of events scummy for the same reason so

For the same reason? Emp isn't scumreading me because they think the mistake was ai. They are scumreading me because they think me producing a read on demand shows lack of interest or conviction in scumhunting. On page 2. You aren't scumreading me for that are you?

[skitter30]

I thought it was scummy that you couldn't explain your sequence of posts but had to make up an explanation after fact - to me it looks like you weren't solving and that you were only producing the explanation behind your posts when asked b/c you hadnt really thought abt it before

We've had, like, numerous convos abt this

[Dionysus]

It. Was. Page. 2.

Jesus.

And you townread patches after 100+ of literally not solving.

[furtiveglance]

Catch up pt 3: Chasin' the Masons (p21-30)

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I believe patchwork's504 to show inconsistent internal logic equivalent to a scumslip. Here's my idea: patchwork believes Empathice's thunderdome (voting one of them/Dionysus, and then the other on a town flip) to be -town for Empathice. But the idea of voting off either both Empathice/Dionysus, or just one if one flips mafia, is only antitown if both Empathice and Dionysus are both town. Dionysus meanwhile persists with the 'lol' and the winking. Here is his ISO from a recent towngame - it's more earnest and argumentative.

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Kawaii's theory of Dio/Empathice bussing is +town for Kawaii. As for the Mason chasin' (which began p21 but kicks off here), I can see that it's suspect at face value. However, I have seen town ask players similar questions before. I also think it's consistent with Empathice's tunnel on Dionysus and Black's consistent defence of him for Empathice to want to ask something like that. patchwork's tone is all over the place here, e.g. randomly calling Empathice scum in 539.

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skitter is town for the defence of Empathice's Mason question. Scum would push that I think. Empathice continued insistence that Black will die is strange but town I feel.

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I'm seeing Kawaii's posting here in a different light now. Vote on Empathice and 586in particular. Wallflower-type scum potentially. I don't think Empathice is ever scum here.

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Kawaii's reading is +town but it could be busy work.

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Dionysus is giving me pause, especially with 630, which does feel a bit towny. skitter is definitely town though.

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Furtiveglance seems cool. It turns out my reads have changed slightly.

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BBT's joke is a bit strange. I'd like to know whether it's what he actually thinks or not.

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Dionysus refusing to vote patchwork given his progression on them this game is weird, I stand by that.

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734is keeping the flame of Dionysus/patchwork alive for me, because Dionysus' first response isn't to explain why he now doesn't want to vote patchwork, but rather to explain why he used to. And his conclusion of ...what, null? is just really strange.

reads

Black, Empathice, skitter

Kawaii

BBT

Dionysus, Hadriaan

patchwork

[skitter30]

I don't townread patches anymore, for the third time today ...

I've kinda dropped the p2 thing buti'm answering the question that no i don't find that read absurd

[furtiveglance]

BBT should probably be higher, put him next to Kawaii^

[Dionysus]

Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

[Black]

It. Was. Page. 2.

Jesus.

And you townread patches after 100+ of literally not solving.

Don't forget she trs Empathice after admitting he's not solving either. That aggressive tone must really be a strong read ig

[furtiveglance]

Black, I'm telling you Empathice is town.

[furtiveglance]

Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

You 'don't townread them', you said.

[Dionysus]

Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

You 'don't townread them', you said.

does that mean I have to vote for them

Serious question

Because "I don't townread" them can mean a few different things between "null" and "scumread"

I know you know this

[Black]

Black, I'm telling you Empathice is town.

Do you think Dio is a better option today?

[furtiveglance]

Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

You 'don't townread them', you said.

does that mean I have to vote for them

Serious question

Because "I don't townread" them can mean a few different things between "null" and "scumread"

I know you know this

Right, but your explanation for your progression on them was so weak that you had to back out and go 'I don't townread them'. That's the point I'm making

[furtiveglance]

Black, I'm telling you Empathice is town.

Do you think Dio is a better option today?

Yes, but patchwork is the best.

[Dionysus]

Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

You 'don't townread them', you said.

does that mean I have to vote for them

Serious question

Because "I don't townread" them can mean a few different things between "null" and "scumread"

I know you know this

Right, but your explanation for your progression on them was so weak that you had to back out and go 'I don't townread them'. That's the point I'm making

I only added that because I thought you thought I had done a 180 on them when I haven't.

[furtiveglance]

You've done at least a 90 on them, for absolutely no good reason.

[patchwork]

'Scum wouldnt do this' is like the key metric for scumhunting imo. That's how i find town and my thought process when trying to read people

If you can figure out what scum won't do, and you see someone doing it anyways, they're probably town. It works

And honestly i townread the sheet audacity of offering a thunderdome: i have a really, really hard time seeing scum trying that move

isn't "scum wouldn't do this" townhunting and not scumhunting lol

[patchwork]

HOLY SHIT FURTIVEGLANCE!!! HI!!

[Black]

HOLY SHIT FURTIVEGLANCE!!! HI!!

This tone is going to change when patch finds out furtive srs them lol

[Black]

(Also patch I misgendered you on accident a little bit ago and I just want to say I'm sorry and I'll do better)