yeah the pipeline of new users just isn't strong enough now to justify itIn post 1091, Nero Cain wrote:yeah they need to just combine it with central park and mayfair club and only run newbie level games when there are actual newbies that join and need/want a low impact game to learn.In post 1086, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I think this queue is officially dead. Changes should come soon or this site will follow.
The road to central park and the Mayfair Club
In post 1093, furtiveglance wrote:I probably won't play a Newbie game soon. It's partly the NewD3 setup I'm getting a bit tired of. Seems that PR actions/claiming/getting smoked N1 are almost more important than people's reads and what the game should actually be about. Thanks for carrying the modding HEM.In post 1091, Nero Cain wrote:yeah they need to just combine it with central park and mayfair club and only run newbie level games when there are actual newbies that join and need/want a low impact game to learn.In post 1086, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I think this queue is officially dead. Changes should come soon or this site will follow.
The road to central park and the Mayfair Club
i like the comfort of playing a reliable semi-open but i think the queue has somewhat outlived its purpose tbhIn post 1095, Bellaphant wrote:There is a chat in site stuff I think about the queues, I think there was a decent suggestion. I personally think that there isn't enough difference in a newbie now to make it worthwhile (I'm old, my first newbies didn't have day chat and mason newbies is just....wild.)
i honestly wonder whether shoehorning new players into a very dry open setup has proved counterproductive to new player retention in the long run, i suspect a lot of new players are put off by how boring it is. i kind of think one of the best parts of forum mafia is getting to play creative setups that do something interesting in terms of mechanics/flavor and you don't really get that with this setup. i have tried to be encouraging in games but i'm not great at it and i kind of suck at outreach.
attitude historically was that new players needed to "learn the ropes" before diving into the deep end but for the most part when new players actually show up these days they're reasonably well versed in social deduction usually and rarely need to be sequestered to a kiddie pool end of the site. might be better off just having them experience more typical games with closed setups and unknown roles
haven't touched the meta threads in site suggestions because i kind of dislike the posting that goes on in those and not sure it actually gets read by site staff but i might chime in there
(i do like the queue existing as a sneaky way to figure out who's a real newbie versus an alt, but lol)