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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:19 pm

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Normally Not_Mafia and Kyoko Kirigiri would not enter this thread after winning, but all dead interaction is dead so they will join.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:22 pm

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I think the best move for arsonists would have been dousing another townie, for more mislim options today, and 3 dead town after an ignite tonight would mean an arsonist win.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:47 pm

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shucks I ded

Are town gonna win???
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:58 pm

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Uhhh
Probably not
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:58 pm

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In post 52, furtiveglance wrote: shucks I ded

Are town gonna win???
Never :P
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:58 pm

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Nooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:58 pm

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Gimli townside pls
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:59 pm

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Argh. I don't even know what's happening to be honest, and possibly haven't since I replaced in.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:00 pm

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In post 42, TemporalLich wrote: okay kyoko is 200% arsonist
lmao what

just caught kokichi for town and this is what you think \o/
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:01 pm

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NM plundered aisa

so unless if he got redirected elsewhere town should win?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:02 pm

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But if there was a redirect then gg arsons :D
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:22 pm

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you were caught in an associative and I was confident you were co-aligned with kokichi, but the flips say otherwise so I'm proven wrong lol
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:24 pm

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pirates and arsonists aren't co-aligned (they are cross-aligned) but it is definitely possible to argue that both are scum

though pirates have a town-compatible wincon so I wouldn't consider them truly scum
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:26 pm

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In post 61, TemporalLich wrote: you were caught in an associative and I was confident you were co-aligned with kokichi, but the flips say otherwise so I'm proven wrong lol
you really need to rework on your associative tells / work on not having tunnel visions like that

it was why you got miselimed

pedit: we really had to town side during day cause we would loose on an end game scum win scenario if we didn't have time to leave game. All my play - claiming and then helping town to catch arsons was to give us enough time to actually leave the game or end game with town
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:27 pm

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me claiming we're pirates was the correct call, cause as I suspected, the other scum team didn't want us dead and town worked with us as we would give them info/were no threat to town either

having a friendly neighbor helped to prove it I guess to scum and town (cause I did target kokichi with that too)
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:29 pm

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my D1 game is not very good but afaik distancing is an excellent associative tell
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:30 pm

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as for confidence, I've been eliminated for being waffley because that's an obvious scum tell, so I need to be overconfident to actually make use of a potentially high value PR
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:33 pm

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there was no distancing
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:34 pm

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yeah but you and kokichi merged together seamlessly so a strong associative was formed in my mind, and denying it would be waffling and thus be openwolfing
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:37 pm

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none of us knew the other is not town so you read the interaction and what happened wrong. there was no association so it was clear that we would deny it
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:40 pm

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oh okay

if I had denied such an associative after using it as a reason to scumread kokichi that would be waffling and would get me speedlimmed
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:54 pm

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imo you just need to care less about how people read your reads and actually try to work on those said reads instead. ultimately the purpose is to find the scum. its not really your job to show everyone else you're town. that's the thing everyone else must solve on their own.

backing down from a wrong read and showing you're willing to solve the game instead can help your reads credibility in games too and can keep you alive for more. for example if you would not insist on the association and would just focus on both me and kokichi separately you could have solved an arson and a 3p for town.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:00 pm

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In post 63, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 61, TemporalLich wrote: you were caught in an associative and I was confident you were co-aligned with kokichi, but the flips say otherwise so I'm proven wrong lol
you really need to rework on your associative tells / work on not having tunnel visions like that

it was why you got miselimed

pedit: we really had to town side during day cause we would loose on an end game scum win scenario if we didn't have time to leave game. All my play - claiming and then helping town to catch arsons was to give us enough time to actually leave the game or end game with town
For the record pirates would've lost endgaming with town.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:01 pm

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In post 72, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 63, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 61, TemporalLich wrote: you were caught in an associative and I was confident you were co-aligned with kokichi, but the flips say otherwise so I'm proven wrong lol
you really need to rework on your associative tells / work on not having tunnel visions like that

it was why you got miselimed

pedit: we really had to town side during day cause we would loose on an end game scum win scenario if we didn't have time to leave game. All my play - claiming and then helping town to catch arsons was to give us enough time to actually leave the game or end game with town
For the record pirates would've lost endgaming with town.
is there a thrid scum?

is aisa a third scum?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:02 pm

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No, you just wouldn't have plundered each other faction without plundering arsonists.
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