*Stretches and yawns*
Spoiler: Don't mind me, just being lazy
In post 960, Alianna wrote:
Spoiler: gimli
In post 561, Gimli wrote:I read through all that performanceIn post 529, Flea The Magician wrote: SING TO MEEEEE by Delain.
5 posts ish per spoiler?
Spoiler: Happy tears fade fast, sad tears tend to lastyes I can, My brain did the wonderful thing of actually forgetting we never actually commented and just YEET.In post 317, DragonEater70 wrote: @Flea, could you clarify #311 please?
Time go wibble.
Spoiler: 311In post 311, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 262, Firebringer wrote:Cereal Killer is a single person faction, and a threat to scum as much as town. Maf would prioritise the CK imoIn post 261, Flea The Magician wrote:And this.In post 167, NorwegianboyEE wrote: It would probably be ideal to get serial killer first assuming they have nightkill
Only thing i find strange about that post is norwee saying "assuming they have night kill" cause ive never heard of cereal killer with no nightkill.
what ur point?
My point is Yes we have 2 nightkills to stand against, we aren't going to find the SK this early, and currently they're as much a threat to us as they are to the mafia. We don't have kill power in this setup, and SK marches to their own drum. Mafia and SK in YOLO puts town as kingmaker. Mafia need SK gone more than we do at the moment.
Norwee prioritising SK this early is hella sus to me for this reason.
Oh I do love an early tell showdown.In post 322, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Also i wasn’t "3P" hunting and scumtelling because "only scum hunt SK" Flea. I was pointing out that from an mechanics standpoint it’s way better to kill the SK as early as possible because that limits the amount of kills from anti-town roles. This was an indirect answer to your question on what you thought was best between killing mafia or a SK today. Whether we actually hit scum at all today is the most important thing.
Especially when its the over-explaining tell.
Annoyingly I think this one is NAI for you if my memory serves. For a D1 case, "only scum hunt SK" is brilliant for putting things into motion, I don't actually put that much credence into it beyond mid D1.
This leads to me asking you why give me an indirect answer to a question that wasn't even aimed at you? Just as importantly, Why give such a defensive response to the mildest of suspicion and end with a blanket statement that's true and NAI for ALL roles in this game?
🌶 - 1/10 on the spicy scale.In post 328, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Ok so i’ve done nothing and get wagoned wtf do u guys expect. I’m already tired today and i’m not gonna "become easy to read" like Fire apparently thinks will happen. In fact i’m just gonna go chill cus this game seems annoying now. Mislim me for nothing if y’all want, don’t care at all.
I would add a normal comment but we're under stricter moderation again ain't we and I don't wanna risk it.
Curious to know who else you think is scummy, given your justification for VOTE:Cephrir being your scummiest is so weak it doesn't even make the spicy scale.In post 350, DragonEater70 wrote:They are the scummiest in my eyes atm.In post 348, Detective Penguin wrote: Why'd you move over to Ceph?
Never ever try and get my perspective. I come from a place of insanity and 9 times out of 10 I can't even remember what the hell I've posted.In post 361, DragonEater70 wrote: Having another look at it, Sail hasn't posted at all and I'm really unsure what the perspectives of both Flea and Bianco are. IDK if that makes them scummier or not, but I'd at least want to get Cephrir to E-2 for info before chasing another wagon. I definitely didn't get anything townie from Ceph.
Pedit: or we could go for Furtive. I guess they are actually quite deserving of a wagon ATM.
Before I change my vote, @Furtive please explain these two posts:
Another Pedit: I actually didn't forget Bianco as you can see.
Spoiler: You've got your blood stained heart, in your nicotine stained hands.Actually would though...In post 372, Firebringer wrote:yeah but would cephrir scum be that lazyIn post 369, Save The Dragons wrote: it's very jada essensce hall "LOOK OVER THERE"
Did you know Rifle Spoons are a thing? I didn't, I was hoping to find a spoon bayonet thingie but found something so much better
Disagree. Has been a while admittedly, and I also think we're a little early to be dropping lines like that.
Scrolling sees that you admit you're wrong, cool. Still don't like how early that lines come out.
I would actually say yes. Norwee isn't exactly great under pressure from memory regardless of alignment. I'm interested to see responses to stuff in the spoiler above.In post 404, Firebringer wrote:thinking on this again does norwee town actually believe he would get elimmed this fast in a game? I don't think so.In post 328, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Ok so i’ve done nothing and get wagoned wtf do u guys expect. I’m already tired today and i’m not gonna "become easy to read" like Fire apparently thinks will happen. In fact i’m just gonna go chill cus this game seems annoying now. Mislim me for nothing if y’all want, don’t care at all.
This sounds like purposeful overreaction than really annoyance? Or maybe he is just trying to be adamant that he won't give what i want. easy read.
wow. I circled around to feeling this is 3d chess move.
ehhhhhhhh
ill say town still
Spoiler: And your 29 years did not help you passThe sass of VOTE:Cephrir combined with the flatness of this response is just amazing.In post 411, DragonEater70 wrote:It's good enough for me to prefer a Furtive wagon over you, ig?In post 409, Cephrir wrote: Am I producing enough content for you yet dragoneater
Tbf every game I've played with your gorgeous duo, this always happens. Like the day I'm in a game where Fenrir doesn't scumread your ass D1 is the day I just turbolim you both ngl.In post 419, Cephrir wrote: Ur straight up bad at reading me then love this is an easy one
Presenting: The reason I hate D1.In post 435, Detective Penguin wrote: Nothing until we actually have some flips.
Growlithe usually needs a Fire Stone to lead, honestly I'm going to disagree with a large chunk of this post, its easier to go with what I do agree with.In post 440, KawaiiKame wrote:This game is confusing, when I'm in confusion I don't pay attention, lemme attempt to be real
Norwee throwing up his hands and leaving in frustration is tai, being genuinely upset when close to being eliminated feels town when in the opening game, hopefully he's okay, Idk why it's being called a gold mine/treasure hunt unless the meaning is an info mine, that's what I'm counting on to have hope of solving this game
dragoneating is town to me since I like the engagement in attempting to solve/asking questions
I need to analyze the vote pushes between norwee vs. penguin though Idk if anything is in it
I voted Penguin since it's fun
fires seem to be the leader of this day, probably/hopefully town
I haven't read enough in depth to know about anyone else besides Penguin, Penguin seems chill
Penguin is p chill. The "gold mine" isn't a big enough vein to set up on but we can pan for gold there at least. we might get a lil bit.
It's not a new trend, trust me.In post 449, furtiveglance wrote:set a new trend idkIn post 448, Save The Dragons wrote: why did u vote meYou saw what happened on the Good Ship Mutiny.
Wait that's a thing?In post 463, DragonEater70 wrote:Can you make your famous first ten pages analysis?In post 455, furtiveglance wrote: I'm not scum. If you give me something to talk about then I'll give it a go
I don't even read the first 10 pages usually xD I enter when I enter and the game for me doesn't exist before that. :3
Spoiler: All the roadkill, cheap thrill, obstacle-filled path🌶🌶🌶 - 3/10In post 471, Firebringer wrote: Get furtive to E-1. Sail is replaced by Not_Mafia and instant hammers.
imagine that
Paranoia or concern... hm....
In post 475, furtiveglance wrote:In post 465, Gimli wrote:yeah I want that tooIn post 463, DragonEater70 wrote:Can you make your famous first ten pages analysis?In post 455, furtiveglance wrote: I'm not scum. If you give me something to talk about then I'll give it a goSpoiler: The pages, collapsed by Flea
Spoiler: Page 1bianco's joke feels a bit forced. Firebringer tunnelling Norwee out the gate might be +town because scum would feel bad about doing that.
Spoiler: Page 2This is entirely fluff.
Spoiler: Page 3Gimli's entrance is slightly +town. I'm also thinking Kawaii is town based on my expectations of new players.
Spoiler: Page 4TvT vibes from Gimli and FB.
Spoiler: Page 5bianco question is slightly +scum.
Spoiler: Page 6Norwee's entrance is +town, Flea's is +scum.
Spoiler: Page 7Norwee is very town, not for the SK nightkill thing but I do buy that as genuine. Flea 170 could be a lazy pocket.
Spoiler: Page 8I don't think 181 is +town, the opposite actually. I've found that Mafia are often self-deprecating in this way.
Spoiler: Page 9DragonEater70 entrance is +town, Cephrir null.
Spoiler: Page 10STD comes in, nothing to read into really so null.
VOTE: Flea The MagicianGODS DAMN IT PUT SOME CLOTHES ON.
Nekkidness everywhere. Yeesh. At least I have me undercrackers on...
A challenger has appeared...In post 483, Sail wrote:This is quite bad. Players often accuse others of white-knighting precisely because it seems like they are scum defending a town. Firebringer tries to frame this interaction as if Gimli thought that Firebringer’s scumread of Gimli was scummy, but Firebringer doesn’t acknowledge the possibility that there was a specific characteristic of his scumread that alerted Gimli that Firebringer was white-knighting.In post 102, Firebringer wrote:u immediately said i was white knighting for kawaii, which to me was TMI that u knew kawaii was town. I don't know how u come to conclusion i was white knighting when i have not said a word about kawaii.In post 98, Gimli wrote: you're the one making associatives already. have I said I was sure you're scum, or have I said I don't believe your reactions to me?
For all i know ur bussing kawaii but ur reaction tells me thats unlikely.
So far, both Gimli and Firebringer seem scummy. Despite this, their interaction doesn’t seem like S/S. This is because of Firebringer’s slightly disingenuous characterization of Gimli’s posts. In my experience, scumpartners who are bussing try to fully understand their scumpartner’s posts before attacking them.
Can't wait to see you post more, your use of language is intriguing.
Really starting to get the openwolf vibe from you.In post 507, Firebringer wrote:i would never kill cereal.In post 505, furtiveglance wrote: And Cereal kill.
Thats just barbaric
my mafia kills goes to Norwee
Honestly I don't think StD is good at reading VOTE:Cephrir.In post 516, Firebringer wrote: i don't think im nearly as good at reading u as cephrir tbh
Spoiler: White lies, black dress, brightest of darknessYou've had one game with me as scum, and I was caught up pretty regular, in contrast to my usual forever-in-catchup MO of scum in large.In post 519, Gimli wrote: last time flea was scum fae was really busy so busy always busy never catching up never doing anything never producing reads
but ofc this time it can be NAI
So who's alt are you?
It's also almost like I have a life and health conditions that keep me busy... both of which are actually fairly well documented around the site
Cool. You're definitely well seasoned at this, how did you place on the MU tournament championship things?In post 521, Sail wrote:This type of metacognition tends to come from town.In post 220, Gimli wrote: I hate people townreading me, it makes the game harder to solve, but I like the people that did tr me except for cephrir
Put it away VOTE:Cephrir, nobody wants to see your naked ass... except maybe StD...
You close your tear-stained eyes to your silver-lined madness
After 29 years, you might want to confess
That we have made a fucked-up place that I can not erase
I think it was towny
I don't wanna flip flea anymore
In post 569, Gimli wrote: 1. furtiveglance - idk scum?
2. Save The Dragons - idk
3. biancospino - town
4. Flea The Magician - town
5. KawaiiKame - town
6. Detective Penguin - town
7. Firebringer - town
8. Sail - town
9. Cephrir - idk
10. DragonEater70 - town
11. Gimli - town
12. NorwegianboyEE - idk
all my towns are locktowns
In post 667, Gimli wrote: I think we shouldn't flip flea today
All that time of flip flopping and never moving the vote despite calling me town. Yeah ok.
And we're back. No reasoning given.In post 819, Gimli wrote: I think it's too early for E-1
I think flea is substantially scummier than bianco. what do you think, furtive?
The push begins.In post 902, Gimli wrote: flea is getting a disappointingly small amount of votes now
is anyone townreading any part of fae's reaction to my suspicion of faer?
anyway I'm ISOing sail now
No elaboration ever given. Nothing I'm doing is set to appease town, given I'm a universial SR.In post 911, Gimli wrote: when I wake up I'll revisit dragon eater and maybe firebringer. I might be clearing them for bad reasons.
I'll also think about this: the way flea is acting now is more or less likely to come from someone who wants to be townread and appease to people as scum, or is it scum irritated with the scumread and flailing, or is it a townie struggling to post cause fae hates d1s?
q's for tomorrow gnight thread
Buzzword attack, no elaboration.In post 921, Gimli wrote:fae was. fae's first few posts are definitely some sort of LAMIST posting. it's now just complaining about my SR and complaining about d1, and not doing anything else, which feels a bit like scum losing their ground in the game. ofc I could be wrong... are you townreading flea?In post 912, biancospino wrote: Fae's not even trying to look good or appeasing imho, so that's not (a). I think you're in a bit of a tunnel
Second game considered, the game where Gimli replaced into a scum slot and lolcatted, didn't even participate in the game.In post 922, Gimli wrote: viewtopic.php?sid=&f=23&t=90243&user_select%5B%5D=34888
flea in legends of the hidden temple. it's not crying about d1, in fact it's playing the shit out of it? so.
I'm just voting there and asking other people to vote there. unless you guys wanna flip bianco. unwilling to flip anyone else this gameday. bianco defending flea just makes them look aligned, but it could also be TMI posturing? idk.
I have a POE outside of these two of (STD, ceph, firebringer, penguin). but these are simply 4 players I don't think I can read well and they've all made townie looking posting. so they're not good d1s, IDT.
anyway good morning team
In post 929, Gimli wrote:of course I care, do you think I want to be wrong? I want to be right, I want to flip scum. if you're town town it up, start making good reads and townhunt.In post 927, Flea The Magician wrote: Not that youd particularly care gimli, I had nancy to bounce off D1 in legends. D1 is my weakest play. Always has been.
you have me to bounce reads off of if you want. doesn't need to be in a hood. you didn't know nancy was town so what's the difference?
Waiting on that dive, there's well over 50 games you get to cherry pick. The only tell I have is the effort I put in. Those who can read me and learned to inverse their reads on me for a true read.In post 932, Gimli wrote: you think you don't have usable meta, clearly.
I'll dive into you
and sorry for using 'it', for some reason I didn't think I was using a pronoun or something. english is complicated.
Anyone who knows me knows I don't give reads. Look at how I play, my reads are quite obviousl.In post 933, Gimli wrote: you're making reads in all your town games
here it's like, IDEK what you're doing, but I don't see the reads. you're voting me cause I'm pushing you, okay, but when we talk it's not like you think I'm scum or anything.
who are you suspicious of? who are you townreading?
Sheep cycle begins. Strong Associative between Gimli and StD - StD being someone I'm happy enough with my read rate on. StD knowing I can be formiddable when I need to be.In post 944, Gimli wrote: if std wants to kill flea then I'm not moving my vote elsewhere today
Almost like I have several chronic conditions that affect my day to day life and someone pissed me off by calling me fucking lazy.In post 946, Gimli wrote: I told you to post reads and you're like *personal stuff* which is fine but it's what you were doing in mutiny too and you were a wolf there
I don't even think I should interact with you anymore, I think we should just flip you and figure out what your d1 meant
if you start playing mafia and posting reads I'll read that
Nice reframe though. That was aimed at Norwee, not you. You told me to post reads and I responded directly to you, instead you go for this.
Tell me Dwarf, what do you gain from flipping me? What associatives? What information?
I've been playing mafia from the start. And i'm still not posting reads for you, or for anyone.
OMGUS framing. Attempting to further depower my vote. Someones shakin in his boots.In post 951, Gimli wrote:okay but is std and furtive bad? cause they're also scumreading youIn post 948, Flea The Magician wrote: The only problem is if I flip, i dont trust town to extract the correct information. Especially if Gimli keeps being loud - self admitted to being bad at mafia and yet still attempts to town lead.
are they mafia?
Gimli's whole play today has been to get rid of me.
This is either scum scared that i'll lock down on this read because he did his research and knows when I'm hot I'm damned hot, or someone scarred by my wolf game.
Spoiler: Save the Dragons
In post 581, Save The Dragons wrote: I've seen flea do this catchup style when fae were scum
I see where you are coming from gimli wrt flea and bianco I just don't know if one game is enough to base a lock town read on
In post 611, Save The Dragons wrote: Fleas potential scum because fae just tried to impress with a town sounding post but didn't have a ton of substance to it.
Norwee is potential scum because he's not doing anything to advance the game state and he did nothing in business company to do so and he was scum there.
Cephrir is potential scum because I don't like how he reacted to my shove onto him and I think he's doing stuff he does as scum but this is my weakest read
In post 943, Save The Dragons wrote: feeling good with flea :thumbsupemoji:
This is it. This is all there is.In post 947, Save The Dragons wrote: i think my problem is i do expect flea to do more
and faer kind of like "d1 d1" and it's like...not enough...and the defense is just pinging my scumdar.
"I expect flea to do more"
What d'ya want me to do? Dress in drag and do the hula?
The catchup style is NAI, I've done it as both alignments. Music is my strength and my coping mechanism. It works its way into everything I do. Yes even at larp I'll be stood there shouting
In the hour of final judgement
All Father lead my way
When the fire of war reign
I will watch my brothers fall
Our names will be long forgotten
We live on forever
The victorious will rise to the glory of the gods
All Father lead my way
When the fire of war reign
I will watch my brothers fall
Our names will be long forgotten
We live on forever
The victorious will rise to the glory of the gods
Brothers of Metal - Yggdrasil
Spoiler: Detective Penguin
In post 766, Detective Penguin wrote:i have no idea how to read flea...so solidly null, would shoot.In post 757, furtiveglance wrote: Penguin, read on Flea?
In post 903, Detective Penguin wrote: VOTE: flea
let's see what happens. not super hopeful with the info from this since my wagon is made up of three lolvotes and a vote for proveably wrong reasons but eh.
Null voter consolidating. Fair enough. I've been wagoned twice at this point I need to flip regardless. Fun fact, Gimli's behind both.In post 907, Detective Penguin wrote:Null. We have two days left so it’s time to start consolidating. Don’t really want to yeet bianco and Ceph isn’t getting traction.In post 904, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is Flea actually scummy to you or null?In post 903, Detective Penguin wrote: VOTE: flea
let's see what happens. not super hopeful with the info from this since my wagon is made up of three lolvotes and a vote for proveably wrong reasons but eh.
Spoiler: Furtive Glance
In post 475, furtiveglance wrote:In post 465, Gimli wrote:yeah I want that tooIn post 463, DragonEater70 wrote:Can you make your famous first ten pages analysis?In post 455, furtiveglance wrote: I'm not scum. If you give me something to talk about then I'll give it a goSpoiler: Page 1bianco's joke feels a bit forced. Firebringer tunnelling Norwee out the gate might be +town because scum would feel bad about doing that.
Spoiler: Page 2This is entirely fluff.
Spoiler: Page 3Gimli's entrance is slightly +town. I'm also thinking Kawaii is town based on my expectations of new players.
Spoiler: Page 4TvT vibes from Gimli and FB.
Spoiler: Page 5bianco question is slightly +scum.
Spoiler: Page 6Norwee's entrance is +town, Flea's is +scum.
Spoiler: Page 7Norwee is very town, not for the SK nightkill thing but I do buy that as genuine. Flea 170 could be a lazy pocket.
Spoiler: Page 8I don't think 181 is +town, the opposite actually. I've found that Mafia are often self-deprecating in this way.
Spoiler: Page 9DragonEater70 entrance is +town, Cephrir null.
Spoiler: Page 10STD comes in, nothing to read into really so null.
VOTE: Flea The Magician
In post 553, furtiveglance wrote:It was Flea's only real bit of game-advancing content in faer entrance and I didn't like itIn post 551, biancospino wrote: @std, fair enough. I do agree it was something of a jarring shift in conversation, but stillifthe intent was malicious than surely they should've a reason to reroute the gamestate is all I'm saying
Leaving why the read aside. Whether or not Norwee is town has no bearing on the whereabout of Fire's sandwitch.In post 547, furtiveglance wrote:Because I TR NorweeIn post 544, Detective Penguin wrote:Why was it a bad vote?In post 532, furtiveglance wrote: Bad vote on Norwee^
That particular vote was not serious and Flea said so faerself, so even if you somehow knew for certain that Norwee was town you are also making the argument that random joke votes to town are more likely than random to come from scum
In post 587, furtiveglance wrote: I think I have a winning POE already which is unusually early for me
[Bianco, Cephrir, Flea, Penguin, STD]
STD most likely to be town from those
In post 822, furtiveglance wrote:I have three scumreads - Bianco, Flea and Penguin.In post 819, Gimli wrote: I think it's too early for E-1
I think flea is substantially scummier than bianco. what do you think, furtive?
You know how Penguin likes to do his wagonomics votes on every wagon?
He's avoided Flea's wagon, and called faer null when I asked him recently.
Voting me basically based on my opening. Honestly probably bad town overall. low chance SK.In post 915, furtiveglance wrote: I don't like Penguin still, but if people are unvoting then I'll shift my vote
VOTE: Flea the Magician
Spoiler: VOTE:Cephrir
In post 590, Cephrir wrote: I like the flea post. Running out of places I currently feel like voting
VOTE: KK
In post 897, Cephrir wrote:i feel like the answer to this is self evidentIn post 895, Save The Dragons wrote: So why are you doing it
but if furtive doesn't articulate a reason that voting penguin is actually better than voting flea i'm probably gonna vote flea
Ceph's another weak D1 player and often eats the elimination for it. Meh, could go either way tbh.In post 961, Cephrir wrote: Sorry, but I'm quite happy with my vote right now. I agree with std
TLDR - Whole lotta nothing. Both scum on this wagon.
