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Had a very tiring day, but don't worry the depressant affects of alcohol will fuel my energy tonight, cause I got some catching up to do.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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HURT: Gimli, Meg, Botanical
I think I do remember people saying we want the most solvy players to run the nightmare?
To me, at least who I have played with recently, Meg and Gimli would be at the top of my list. As far as the hydra, they both are quality as well....but I figure two heads are better than one in this scenario (it pains me to compliment a hydra lol)'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Reflecting.. I'm inclined to agree I think. I think him getting upset at people voting him plus sweating over the nightmare mechanic for some reason probably comes from a genuine place.In post 234, Save The Dragons wrote: enchant having wim/not trolling/doing mech spec is probably town enchant
It's less likely that he's reacting in a frustrated way in response to OMGUS as scum i think, I think he'd be more likely to brush it off. And I think his fixation on how the mechanic is used is more likely to be real, not sure what the obvious motive is for scum
HURT: DragonEater This is a very good bet.
Someone said that scum can't get in the nightmare. Sort of. I mean, if scum shoots the person who receives the nightmare, we're still gonna learn there's scum running the nightmare. The more people we put in there that we're sure are town, the better the result could potentially be. And the less likely scum will want to do that
Ideally it still needs to be as towny as possible so this nitpick im making doesnt rlly matter. But if scum get in we can still work w that is what I mean-
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It takes me a long ass time to scumread anyone, I have to have strong conviction to scumread someone initially and no one I know is explicitly scum to me as of now, I'm open to any and all possibilities but I feel it's best to see who I see as town and see who's left, I'm usually not confident in any/most of my reads, so many people makes it hard to know who is scum especially with everyone acting vaguely townie in my eyes, I will have to deeply analyze the game and see what I findIn post 298, TemporalLich wrote: KawaiiKame does have towny vibes but I did an ISO skim on them and they have some reads but I don't see any scumreads from KawaiiKame. 242 feels more likely genuine than not.
pedit: good reasoning, though DragonEater's waffling discredits his solvey vibes and I indeed do like Gimli's vibe and posts
I can definitely see KawaiiKame being scum, but I still have a low confidence townread there (the scumminess comes from a concerning lack of scumreads)-
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How do you get reads of everyone page by page? This is genuinely impressive, I hope to be this skilled in timeIn post 288, Ranger wrote: {Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
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okay this response feels towny to me, good responseIn post 304, KawaiiKame wrote:It takes me a long ass time to scumread anyone, I have to have strong conviction to scumread someone initially and no one I know is explicitly scum to me as of now, I'm open to any and all possibilities but I feel it's best to see who I see as town and see who's left, I'm usually not confident in any/most of my reads, so many people makes it hard to know who is scum especially with everyone acting vaguely townie in my eyes, I will have to deeply analyze the game and see what I find
deeply analyzing the game is a very good idea especially with a mechanic that incentivizes deeply analyzing the gametime will end-
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I'm town reading Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger, Save The Dragons, Temporal LichIn post 304, KawaiiKame wrote:
It takes me a long ass time to scumread anyone, I have to have strong conviction to scumread someone initially and no one I know is explicitly scum to me as of now, I'm open to any and all possibilities but I feel it's best to see who I see as town and see who's left, I'm usually not confident in any/most of my reads, so many people makes it hard to know who is scum especially with everyone acting vaguely townie in my eyes, I will have to deeply analyze the game and see what I findIn post 298, TemporalLich wrote: KawaiiKame does have towny vibes but I did an ISO skim on them and they have some reads but I don't see any scumreads from KawaiiKame. 242 feels more likely genuine than not.
pedit: good reasoning, though DragonEater's waffling discredits his solvey vibes and I indeed do like Gimli's vibe and posts
I can definitely see KawaiiKame being scum, but I still have a low confidence townread there (the scumminess comes from a concerning lack of scumreads)
HURT: Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger,Save The Dragons, Temporal Lich , KawaiiKame
Tweet is below this line, I like how observant/solving she is in spite of only 3 posts, willing to trade in someone above with Tweet
Kyoko is below this line, I'm willing to trade someone out of the above line if I continue to like what she says in challenging people
Tweet/Kyoko exist in the same line interchangeably to be next in line in who I hurt vote into the Nightmare
9/17 town, let's see the 8/17 in P2-
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I tend to read people the best when just coming off another game with them, and like you Kawaii, even though she hasn't posted much I really like Morning Tweet's last post, I feel confident she is town.In post 307, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm town reading Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger, Save The Dragons, Temporal LichIn post 304, KawaiiKame wrote:
It takes me a long ass time to scumread anyone, I have to have strong conviction to scumread someone initially and no one I know is explicitly scum to me as of now, I'm open to any and all possibilities but I feel it's best to see who I see as town and see who's left, I'm usually not confident in any/most of my reads, so many people makes it hard to know who is scum especially with everyone acting vaguely townie in my eyes, I will have to deeply analyze the game and see what I findIn post 298, TemporalLich wrote: KawaiiKame does have towny vibes but I did an ISO skim on them and they have some reads but I don't see any scumreads from KawaiiKame. 242 feels more likely genuine than not.
pedit: good reasoning, though DragonEater's waffling discredits his solvey vibes and I indeed do like Gimli's vibe and posts
I can definitely see KawaiiKame being scum, but I still have a low confidence townread there (the scumminess comes from a concerning lack of scumreads)
HURT: Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger,Save The Dragons, Temporal Lich , KawaiiKame
Tweet is below this line, I like how observant/solving she is in spite of only 3 posts, willing to trade in someone above with Tweet
Kyoko is below this line, I'm willing to trade someone out of the above line if I continue to like what she says in challenging people
Tweet/Kyoko exist in the same line interchangeably to be next in line in who I hurt vote into the Nightmare
9/17 town, let's see the 8/17 in P2
As is TL and you as well Kawaii.
Page 13, unlucky for scum, because only town here, ya dig.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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That gives me confidence in my Tweet read, finished a game with Empath so Ik he's good at solving when pursuing a specific line of reasoning systematicallyIn post 308, Doctor Drew wrote: I tend to read people the best when just coming off another game with them, and like you Kawaii, even though she hasn't posted much I really like Morning Tweet's last post, I feel confident she is town.-
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Is he somewhat displaying that same behavior here?In post 309, KawaiiKame wrote:
That gives me confidence in my Tweet read, finished a game with Empath so Ik he's good at solving when pursuing a specific line of reasoning systematicallyIn post 308, Doctor Drew wrote: I tend to read people the best when just coming off another game with them, and like you Kawaii, even though she hasn't posted much I really like Morning Tweet's last post, I feel confident she is town.
Sorry, lost to catch up on lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Yes, not exactly the same way but close to the same mindset, no hard pursuing as of yet thoIn post 310, Doctor Drew wrote:
Is he somewhat displaying that same behavior here?In post 309, KawaiiKame wrote:
That gives me confidence in my Tweet read, finished a game with Empath so Ik he's good at solving when pursuing a specific line of reasoning systematicallyIn post 308, Doctor Drew wrote: I tend to read people the best when just coming off another game with them, and like you Kawaii, even though she hasn't posted much I really like Morning Tweet's last post, I feel confident she is town.
Sorry, lost to catch up on lol.-
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this is a good looking post and i think drew is a townie for itIn post 302, Doctor Drew wrote: HURT: Gimli, Meg, Botanical
I think I do remember people saying we want the most solvy players to run the nightmare?
To me, at least who I have played with recently, Meg and Gimli would be at the top of my list. As far as the hydra, they both are quality as well....but I figure two heads are better than one in this scenario (it pains me to compliment a hydra lol)-
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cause he voted for you? It's actually a really bad post cause he did not consider solving you at all. This is not a popularity contestIn post 312, Gimli wrote:
this is a good looking post and i think drew is a townie for itIn post 302, Doctor Drew wrote: HURT: Gimli, Meg, Botanical
I think I do remember people saying we want the most solvy players to run the nightmare?
To me, at least who I have played with recently, Meg and Gimli would be at the top of my list. As far as the hydra, they both are quality as well....but I figure two heads are better than one in this scenario (it pains me to compliment a hydra lol)
It's pretty obvious we want town players in the nightmare, not just people who are generally better in the game.
And you're really alarming me right now with how you're reacting to this kinda stuff-
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I actually am going to go ahead and do
VOTE: Gimli
I have a few questions for you:
1 - Is your hated modifier for all phases or just this one
2 - Imagine you were in the nightmare, what invention would you choose and why?
3 - How is your read on temporallich developing
4 - What is your take on how empath voted enchant. What do you think about the interactions surrounding his vote on enchant
5 - Who would you vote to hurt right now? Please write one sentence about each.
We need to verify your alibi, please show us your e-handbook!
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I've been playing games of werewolf since 2009. I've never stopped. That's 14 years of experience. Most of those were blitzes, too. And EpicMafia. Developing reads quickly was a must. I've slowed down in my old age. :PIn post 305, KawaiiKame wrote:How do you get reads of everyone page by page? This is genuinely impressive, I hope to be this skilled in time
Big help: intellectual honesty. Let people move for any reason.Anyreason. A single good post up. A single bad post down. Out of sight out of mind move down. Sucks to let go of correct reads, sucks to change to wrong reads, but the honesty is worth it.
{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
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I realize I've too few scumreads. Hopefully will solidify these later. I did like Kawaii this page.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I do wonder why Kawaii is so low, along with Morning.......and I have been lock town apparently, even I would say I haven't been blatant town.In post 315, Ranger wrote:
I've been playing games of werewolf since 2009. I've never stopped. That's 14 years of experience. Most of those were blitzes, too. And EpicMafia. Developing reads quickly was a must. I've slowed down in my old age.In post 305, KawaiiKame wrote:How do you get reads of everyone page by page? This is genuinely impressive, I hope to be this skilled in time
Big help: intellectual honesty. Let people move for any reason.Anyreason. A single good post up. A single bad post down. Out of sight out of mind move down. Sucks to let go of correct reads, sucks to change to wrong reads, but the honesty is worth it.
{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{Morning Tweet}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality, KawaiiKame}
{Gimli}
{Enchant}
I realize I've too few scumreads. Hopefully will solidify these later. I did like Kawaii this page.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Why do you say I am not solving them?In post 313, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
cause he voted for you? It's actually a really bad post cause he did not consider solving you at all. This is not a popularity contestIn post 312, Gimli wrote:
this is a good looking post and i think drew is a townie for itIn post 302, Doctor Drew wrote: HURT: Gimli, Meg, Botanical
I think I do remember people saying we want the most solvy players to run the nightmare?
To me, at least who I have played with recently, Meg and Gimli would be at the top of my list. As far as the hydra, they both are quality as well....but I figure two heads are better than one in this scenario (it pains me to compliment a hydra lol)
It's pretty obvious we want town players in the nightmare, not just people who are generally better in the game.
And you're really alarming me right now with how you're reacting to this kinda stuff'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Cause I'm reading your posts and there is nothing about that in there?In post 317, Doctor Drew wrote:
Why do you say I am not solving them?In post 313, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
cause he voted for you? It's actually a really bad post cause he did not consider solving you at all. This is not a popularity contestIn post 312, Gimli wrote:
this is a good looking post and i think drew is a townie for itIn post 302, Doctor Drew wrote: HURT: Gimli, Meg, Botanical
I think I do remember people saying we want the most solvy players to run the nightmare?
To me, at least who I have played with recently, Meg and Gimli would be at the top of my list. As far as the hydra, they both are quality as well....but I figure two heads are better than one in this scenario (it pains me to compliment a hydra lol)
It's pretty obvious we want town players in the nightmare, not just people who are generally better in the game.
And you're really alarming me right now with how you're reacting to this kinda stuff
You voted for them to be in nightmare because you think they solve better. That is not solving them. Now you might say you are solving them, but just didn't say anything about it. Sure. That won't explain why gimli called it a good post and was not alarmed by how you did it.
Why do you think they are town?-
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Kyoko has gone up to me in being town with the pursuit of GimliIn post 315, Ranger wrote:
I've been playing games of werewolf since 2009. I've never stopped. That's 14 years of experience. Most of those were blitzes, too. And EpicMafia. Developing reads quickly was a must. I've slowed down in my old age.In post 305, KawaiiKame wrote:How do you get reads of everyone page by page? This is genuinely impressive, I hope to be this skilled in time
Big help: intellectual honesty. Let people move for any reason.Anyreason. A single good post up. A single bad post down. Out of sight out of mind move down. Sucks to let go of correct reads, sucks to change to wrong reads, but the honesty is worth it.
{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{Morning Tweet}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality, KawaiiKame}
{Gimli}
{Enchant}
I realize I've too few scumreads. Hopefully will solidify these later. I did like Kawaii this page.
HURT: Rat, Empath, Kyoko, Ranger,Save The Dragons, Temporal Lich , KawaiiKame
Decided to switch out with Enchant, seems to me this is Enchant's town play tho with the meta reads
I'm guessing Tweet is placed 6 since she only has 3 posts, why is Enchant so low to you?-
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Being fluid like this is optimal, being adaptable/flowing like water since the game is always changing, this big help makes so much sense to me, thank youIn post 315, Ranger wrote: Big help: intellectual honesty. Let people move for any reason. Any reason. A single good post up. A single bad post down. Out of sight out of mind move down-
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I'm not waffling, I said it was semi rvs from the beginning and people kept questioning it so I had to keep answering. I really don't want to make it a point.In post 298, TemporalLich wrote: DragonEater70's repeated waffling on whether his vote is serious or not is extremely concerning and definitely unfit for the nightmare
What's making you townread Gimli though?
Seconded.In post 297, Ranger wrote: Gimli not guaranteed scum, but haven't liked his posts mostly. (Exception was 227, and only there.)
Also @everyone who tr's Botanical Rat and Doctor Drew: care to explain your TR's? I really don't see them.-
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I know this wasn't directed at me, but I just wanna chime in and say I've also taken note of the vote and felt it was a bit scummy, however I didn't feel it was enough to change my read of Empath. But maybe I could've at least questioned it, looking back.In post 314, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: 4 - What is your take on how empath voted enchant. What do you think about the interactions surrounding his vote on enchant
So I would like to direct a question for Empath:
Why did you vote Enchant?-
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Okay I can kinda see the Doctor Drew tr but I agree that they shouldn't be so high up. Especially because they've done no scum hunting this far, only a bit of mech talk and townhunting.In post 316, Doctor Drew wrote:
I do wonder why Kawaii is so low, along with Morning.......and I have been lock town apparently, even I would say I haven't been blatant town.In post 315, Ranger wrote:
I've been playing games of werewolf since 2009. I've never stopped. That's 14 years of experience. Most of those were blitzes, too. And EpicMafia. Developing reads quickly was a must. I've slowed down in my old age.In post 305, KawaiiKame wrote:How do you get reads of everyone page by page? This is genuinely impressive, I hope to be this skilled in time
Big help: intellectual honesty. Let people move for any reason.Anyreason. A single good post up. A single bad post down. Out of sight out of mind move down. Sucks to let go of correct reads, sucks to change to wrong reads, but the honesty is worth it.
{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{Morning Tweet}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality, KawaiiKame}
{Gimli}
{Enchant}
I realize I've too few scumreads. Hopefully will solidify these later. I did like Kawaii this page.-
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We can hear his answer, but I feel we've already amply gone there.In post 322, DragonEater70 wrote: So I would like to direct a question for Empath:
Why did you vote Enchant?
In post 129, Empathice wrote: Which means you thought the possibility of it being a RVS vote was enough to warrant mention. AKA you said it could be a RVS vote.
VOTE: Enchant
Enchant did vote you because your vote was bad "even for RVS" (cfr. 96), and thereafter said that he did not believe it to be RVS (cfr. 121, 126). I can see why this could ping Empath, introducing an hypotetical scenario while at the same time explicitly excluding it is a kind of behaviour that I think is more likely to come from scum, at least I know that I [bianco] would be more likely to do that as scum.In post 252, Empathice wrote:
I Thought Enchant was scummy because voting Eater for an obvious RVS vote seems ridiculous to me (Although if Eater RVSed someone who was v:la or such that would be a different story.) and they contradicted themselves. Eater seemingly claiming that their vote was not RVS has given me second thoughts.In post 247, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: empath I can't follow your line of thinking
so you think enchant is scummy cause he voted someone for a possible rvs vote while saying it was a bad vote?
Your vote being rvs or not should not matter much for this, so I'm actually more interested in the second thoughtsHydra of biancospino and Radical Rat!
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