Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER

[Save The Dragons]

he was fighting this up until i voted him

[Lady Lambdadelta]

he was fighting this up until i voted him

Sure, but I think thwt is because he has internalized "if STD votes me I die" which... Honestly feels town

[Save The Dragons]

why im just one person

[Ethel]

i hate to even think it but there is a really significant part of my brain saying that ethel is scum here and suggested a poem as the only possible way she could flip on me without claiming scum <_<

Hey, I didn't even flip on you yet and I'll probably go back to voting furtive! I'd just feel bad about completely ignoring a poem, so unvoting seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

[Cephrir]

Yeah I've been putting in a lot of effort and your voting without commenting on any of it on the heels of Ethel unvoting over a poem is just too much for me right now

[Gimli]

As I said before, if we're to assume the worst case scenario and flip whichever of you is Town, you don't have an ability anymore, Cephrir (allegedly) does. Therefore, in the absence of other factors, you're the better elimination. That other factors are also pushing me towards you and not Cephrir cements my decision to vote you.

And I am again genuinely confused by the assertion that I'm "hiding behind LLD." I expressed suspicion first, and while I did agree with most of her logic after it was shared, I've also consistently had my own take on the situation, it doesn't make sense that I'm just coasting off her

sorry I'm a slowpoke. of course it makes more sense to flip furtive, since cephrir might be a doc

[Cephrir]

i hate to even think it but there is a really significant part of my brain saying that ethel is scum here and suggested a poem as the only possible way she could flip on me without claiming scum <_<

Hey, I didn't even flip on you yet and I'll probably go back to voting furtive! I'd just feel bad about completely ignoring a poem, so unvoting seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

Maybe

Sorry that I don't feel up to a poem of my own at the moment

[Umlaut]

Cephrir

• 121 - engaging Ranger on her reads is +town
  
• 128 - transparent in his position on Ranger (sidenote: everyone who keeps claiming people are just sheeping LLD is obviously not reading the game
  
• 130 - voting me is not the best thing but doing more than just sit on Ranger all day is reasonable
  
• 144 - echoes my own feelings at that point in the game
  
• 213, 277 - admitting to liking Ranger's posts shows some sort of actual thought process and is +town; I'd think he'd just claim to disagree with her read on me if he were making things up as he went along
  
• 299 - likewise picking holes in the case on Ranger even though she's his own scumread too
  
• 339, 342 - seems unlikely for scum to go to this kind of effort to "read" me; not unheard of, but surprising
  
• 458 - "Maybe I'm just stupid" shows a lack of concern for appearing consistent which is a +town attitude

That's, uh, that's enough already. Still like Cephrir for town, absent the redcheck.

[Gimli]

if furtive flips town he is just a vt and we have a red check

the only difference is if he is scum and we killed cephrir we killed tpr

now I understand

[Save The Dragons]

i appreciate the effort if you flip town i'm willing to listen

[Gimli]

nah we have to flip furtive

[Umlaut]

I mean yeah everyone point blank refused to play until I claimed the result.

1. I didn't.
   
2. You gave people less than one IRL day before giving up.

I got some reactions

Given that you're at risk of dying today, I'd think you'd want to tell us what you make of those reactions. What did you get?

[Gimli]

sorry im a slowpoke

VOTE: furtive

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

[furtiveglance]

I mean yeah everyone point blank refused to play until I claimed the result.

1. I didn't.
   
2. You gave people less than one IRL day before giving up.

I got some reactions

Given that you're at risk of dying today, I'd think you'd want to tell us what you make of those reactions. What did you get?

Kawaii's was bad
Ranger's was terrible
Radical Rat is probably scum

Scum here ^^

[furtiveglance]

Cephrir really getting em with the AtE...fair play

I don't really care enough, obviously it's 100% mechanically better to vote out the Cop, because I've already used my ability, and we want to keep the fake Doctor around to pretend to heal us, so I've just got to accept this one, because of everyone's amazing logic.

[Gimli]

Cephrir really getting em with the AtE...fair play

I don't really care enough, obviously it's 100% mechanically better to vote out the Cop, because I've already used my ability, and we want to keep the fake Doctor around to pretend to heal us, so I've just got to accept this one, because of everyone's amazing logic.

I loved the poem though

have fun in dead chat <3

[Save The Dragons]

i still think my husband's scum but it might be mechanically better to kill you sorry

[Umlaut]

Note that Furtive is at L-1 by my count (Ceph, RR, Ranger, LLD, Gimli)

[Radical Rat]

As I said before, if we're to assume the worst case scenario and flip whichever of you is Town, you don't have an ability anymore, Cephrir (allegedly) does. Therefore, in the absence of other factors, you're the better elimination. That other factors are also pushing me towards you and not Cephrir cements my decision to vote you.

And I am again genuinely confused by the assertion that I'm "hiding behind LLD." I expressed suspicion first, and while I did agree with most of her logic after it was shared, I've also consistently had my own take on the situation, it doesn't make sense that I'm just coasting off her

Why assume worst case? Just aim for the best case which is being correct.

I am also doing that. There's a reason I am frequently using the words "also" and "and" when discussing this. I think you're the scummier of the two, AND even if I happen to be wrong, you're the better one to be wrong on.

[Umlaut]

VOTE: KawaiiKame again just so I'm not no-voting while letting the day play out

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: KawaiiKame again just so I'm not no-voting while letting the day play out

What's the difference here? I think all of us are mostly in agreement that one of Cephrir/furtiveglance needs to die today. So what makes voting someone else who isn't likely to be the elimination substantively different from no voting?

[furtiveglance]

Clowntown

[Umlaut]

No practical difference, I guess. I'm just frustrated that they're not playing the game and no one is doing anything about it. I get there's not much we can do about it today but voting them still soothes my soul a bit.

[furtiveglance]

Umlaut discovers coasting