Micro 1075: The Coalition of Imaginary Creatures (Game over)
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northsidegal Survivor
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also, once again – it seems odd to think that i prepared a post, proceeded to lie about a coincidence and then proceeded to lie about not preparing that post and conclude that all of that is "NAI". does that sound like a behavior which is equally as likely to come from town as it is scum to you?In post 48, Deltabreedy wrote: Also I googled 'Crystal ball' and that image didn't come up. That itself is NAI but I get the sense it was a prepared post and that kinda does give me bad vibes.-
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VOTE: Delta
Not that we're eliminating yet, but this read on north seems to be based more on her being difficult to understand than anything else which feels like someone scraping for a reason. If it was just the vote that would be fine since votes are basically symbolic right now, but also pushing to remove her from coalitions makes it seem like it's more serious.
Also hi patch! I like your flag, though I haven't seen that specific one before and had to look it up.You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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Deltabreedy He/himMafia ScumHe/him
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It was super abbreviated and shortened, and also didn't include everyone in the game.
I also don't follow why you have Keychain and Bingle at the bottom (Scummy end) of your list, when you've not really passed any comment on them.
The fact that Crystal Ball didn't come up is NAI. The fact that I think it was a prepared post gives me bad vibes and feeds into why my vote is on you.
That's fairly clear. I feel like the misunderstanding is intentional.
Ninja'd by Keychain: My vote on Northside is serious, and for valid reasons. I encourage you to critique it and challenge it and pick holes in it.Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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northsidegal Survivor
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all fair points. it's true that i'm not being as explanatory as i could be. i tend to like to just observe things for a while, because i think that it lets me form better reads.In post 53, Deltabreedy wrote: It was super abbreviated and shortened, and also didn't include everyone in the game.
I also don't follow why you have Keychain and Bingle at the bottom (Scummy end) of your list, when you've not really passed any comment on them.
The fact that Crystal Ball didn't come up is NAI. The fact that I think it was a prepared post gives me bad vibes and feeds into why my vote is on you.
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Yeah, I'd think it slight scum indicative if I wasn't literally in the game because when I logged in to review a setup for someone for the first time in months I had an invitation to join from you.In post 41, Keychain wrote: I was camping the micro queue and then hassling people to join the game, your read of the frantic energy is correct and I am going to try and tone it down so the game isn't too annoying to read for the people who aren't here yet!"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Why would it being a prepared post suggest a specific alignment? If anything, the point of a prepared post would be to make the post AI neutral regardless and it would defeat the point to change it based on the role you actually drew.In post 53, Deltabreedy wrote: it was a prepared post"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I feel like the implication is that they were amongst the last to confirm so would have time to prepare a bit, confirm and then be first into the thread. I don't think it's the MOST alignment-indicative thing, but the whole thing of being pretty unhelpful, sharing reads whilst simultaneously not offering anything on said reads read to me like a continuation of the bit that they were doing.
I think of the points I make against Northside, it's certainly amongst the weakest, but I do feel it has validity.Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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this is a really bad postIn post 57, Bingle wrote:
Why would it being a prepared post suggest a specific alignment? If anything, the point of a prepared post would be to make the post AI neutral regardless and it would defeat the point to change it based on the role you actually drew.In post 53, Deltabreedy wrote: it was a prepared post-
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no offense
i feel as though i'm unintentionally bringing a lot of negative energy here despite being excited for my first game in a while with a lot of people i'm familiar with. so, just to say it explicitly, i'm excited to be here with all you guys
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Bad as in alignment-indicative?
And I hope you enjoy the game, regardless of alignment.Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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I legitimately don't think you could offend me if you tried, nsg.In post 60, northsidegal wrote: no offense"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Let's not and say we didn't!In post 17, Bingle wrote: So, I think I've come up with a way to break this setup.
We don't select a coalition D1, and when lilith goes to end the day she'll get confused by the fact that there is no instruction for when no coalition is formed and just reveal the scumteam.
Me too.
HEAL: Dunnstral
UNVOTE: Keychain
This feels off to me somehow, just how seriously are you taking NSG's posts?In post 29, Deltabreedy wrote: I can't read Northside's #25. I'm finding this bit about psychic whatevers a bit odd.
This is goodpostingIn post 34, Dunnstral wrote: I don't consider me putting somebody into the coalition to be me betting the game that they are town. I think being aggressive and pushing a coalition early based on gut feeling is more likely to be successful than dragging it on and allowing mafia to influence things. Also taking more time on day 1 when we have no info is not likely to be helpful to us.
I can't really explain why but this response to NSG's explanation feels town to me.In post 41, Keychain wrote: Oh damn your third eye is right, somehow I didn't connect the psychicness of you arriving early to your psychic reads and just assumed you were going to come in with psychic reads regardless, so that would indeed be an amazing coincidence. This all makes sense now, carry on
Bad vote, bad idea.In post 45, Deltabreedy wrote: UNVOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Northsidegal
It's all a bit deliberately unhelpful, and in #39 it's not clear which way round the reads go.
I'd encourage people to remove Northside from their coalition vote, even if they disagree with the limvote.
I like this for town because it's pretty much where my head was on Delta right before reading it.In post 52, Keychain wrote: VOTE: Delta
Not that we're eliminating yet, but this read on north seems to be based more on her being difficult to understand than anything else which feels like someone scraping for a reason. If it was just the vote that would be fine since votes are basically symbolic right now, but also pushing to remove her from coalitions makes it seem like it's more serious.
HEAL: Keychain
VOTE: Delta“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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VOTECOUNT1.001ELIMINATIONVOTESPLAYERNAMECURRENTVOTESKeychain (1)northsidegal patchwork (0)None KawaiiKame (0)None Not_Mafia (0)None northsidegal (1)Deltabreedy Deltabreedy (2)Keychain, Umlaut Umlaut (0)None Dunnstral (0)None Bingle (0)None patchwork, KawaiiKame, Not_Mafia, Dunnstral, BingleNOT VOTING:COALITIONVOTESPLAYERNAMECURRENTCOALITIONKeychain (3)Keychain, Dunnstral, northsidegal patchwork (0)None KawaiiKame (0)None Not_Mafia (0)None northsidegal (1)northsidegal Deltabreedy (0)None Umlaut (4)Umlaut, northsidegal, Dunnstral, Keychain Dunnstral (5)Dunnstral, Keychain, northsidegal, Umlaut, Deltabreedy Bingle (2)Bingle, Deltabreedy With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lock in a Coalition and 5 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-06 14:49:20)I did this on mobile so please let me know if I missed any votes. will add imaginary creatures later!Notes:-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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It is, actually. What do you think of Delta's reply to it?In post 59, northsidegal wrote:
this is a really bad postIn post 57, Bingle wrote:
Why would it being a prepared post suggest a specific alignment? If anything, the point of a prepared post would be to make the post AI neutral regardless and it would defeat the point to change it based on the role you actually drew.In post 53, Deltabreedy wrote: it was a prepared post“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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As seriously as everyone else's posts.In post 63, Umlaut wrote:
This feels off to me somehow, just how seriously are you taking NSG's posts?In post 29, Deltabreedy wrote: I can't read Northside's #25. I'm finding this bit about psychic whatevers a bit odd.
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Why, and why?In post 63, Umlaut wrote:
Bad vote, bad idea.In post 45, Deltabreedy wrote: UNVOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Northsidegal
It's all a bit deliberately unhelpful, and in #39 it's not clear which way round the reads go.
I'd encourage people to remove Northside from their coalition vote, even if they disagree with the limvote.
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I smell sheeping.In post 63, Umlaut wrote:
I like this for town because it's pretty much where my head was on Delta right before reading it.In post 52, Keychain wrote: VOTE: Delta
Not that we're eliminating yet, but this read on north seems to be based more on her being difficult to understand than anything else which feels like someone scraping for a reason. If it was just the vote that would be fine since votes are basically symbolic right now, but also pushing to remove her from coalitions makes it seem like it's more serious.
HEAL: Keychain
VOTE: DeltaRefer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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structurally it feels similar to something that i would say. explains what he was trying to say, and recognizes that one individual point he's making isn't necessarily very strong but is part of a larger pattern of behavior. overall i think it's slightly town indicativeIn post 65, Umlaut wrote:
It is, actually. What do you think of Delta's reply to it?In post 59, northsidegal wrote:
this is a really bad postIn post 57, Bingle wrote:
Why would it being a prepared post suggest a specific alignment? If anything, the point of a prepared post would be to make the post AI neutral regardless and it would defeat the point to change it based on the role you actually drew.In post 53, Deltabreedy wrote: it was a prepared post-
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As an addendum, I don't see a single original thought from any of this post. Umlaut's #63 is a lot of words that broadly say 'I agree' or 'I disagree'. No attempt at game-solving.
Post #65 above has a question for (I think) Northside, wherein they agree that the post is bad, but are looking more towards me than the person that posted it? Odd.
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Ninja'd:One thing that I also don't particularly like is the quotation out of context by Bingle. The quote should read
notThe fact that I think it was a prepared post gives me bad vibesit was a prepared postRefer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Actually the response doesn't have the problem I thought it did. I didn't notice Delta had already said in 53 that they were suspicious of NSG specifically for making what they thought was a prepared post, so I thought 57 was bad because I thought it was misrepping Delta a bit (I remembered him only was saying the prepared post was not a reason for a townread) and then I thought 58 was bad because it was sort of... accepting the misrep? But it wasn't a misrep at all, that's really the reason you're giving for being suspicious of NSG, so... idk.
NSG, what is it that you find bad about 57? The problem I thought I saw with it isn't actually there.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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i dont really like this aggressive coalition building but tbh there’s no harm in it
don’t really have time to think about the game run but ill get back soonlolhammer count: 3-
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Delta it is page 3 why do you expect people to be gamesolving at likeIn post 68, Deltabreedy wrote: As an addendum, I don't see a single original thought from any of this post. Umlaut's #63 is a lot of words that broadly say 'I agree' or 'I disagree'. No attempt at game-solving.
Post #65 above has a question for (I think) Northside, wherein they agree that the post is bad, but are looking more towards me than the person that posted it? Odd.
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Ninja'd:One thing that I also don't particularly like is the quotation out of context by Bingle. The quote should read
notThe fact that I think it was a prepared post gives me bad vibesit was a prepared post
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I thought she was claiming it was a bad post because it was intentionally designed to lead to a specific conclusion (which it was) as opposed to directly read delta.In post 69, Umlaut wrote: NSG, what is it that you find bad about 57? The problem I thought I saw with it isn't actually there.
The conclusion being that the post likely wasn’t prepared."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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I expect people to be making an effort.
Or is proactivity and hunting only valid at page five and onwards? I must have missed that one.Refer to me as 'Delta' or 'Tom'. Cheers! |'Black, if you're scum, I'll eat my shoe.'Never forget
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Delta, who would you be putting in your coalition from the active posters so far? You've got a lot of scumready kind of posts, but the first phase of the game is finding town.
Also HEAL: Umlaut, maybe I'm being pocketed because it's just all my thoughts but I liked 63!
<3In post 60, northsidegal wrote: i feel as though i'm unintentionally bringing a lot of negative energy here despite being excited for my first game in a while with a lot of people i'm familiar with. so, just to say it explicitly, i'm excited to be here with all you guysYou're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.
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