Micro 1075: The Coalition of Imaginary Creatures (Game over)

[Umlaut]

don't have time to reread because i've gotten a lot more busy recently so i'm just going to hammer itHURT: patchwork, northsidegal, eiralox, not_mafia HEAL: keychain, northsidegal, eiralox, umlaut, not_mafia

Hmmmm

[Umlaut]

N_M, what was your most recent scum game where you played from the start? I'm trying to check something.

[Umlaut]

Never mind, I think I found it.

to angleshoot this a little bit, assuming that NM is telling the truth about just randomly remembering, i imagine that if he had posted in the mafia PT before the game started he probably would have realized the game had started earlier. something to think about. (hopefully site rules haven't been updated to the point where i can't say this)

While reviewing NSG I was reminded of this which I had kind of forgotten and honestly I think it's pretty compelling. Took a look at a few of N_M's recent games to see if it pans out.

Micro 1063 - Town; first post ~59 hours after game start.
Mini Normal 2289 - Town; first post ~31 hours after game start.
Open 868 - Town; first post ~13 hours after game start.
Open 871 - Mafia; first post ~2 hours after game start.

Yeah, I think this is actually pretty solid argument that N_M is town. I'd like it better if I could find more than one recent scum game of N_M's but for as far as this goes it's pretty solid evidence that they notice sooner when their scum games start.

[Umlaut]

VOTE: northsidegal I guess

Someone has pocketed me hard and I think NSG is more capable/experienced to pull that off.

[Umlaut]

UNVOTE: northsidegal

why would she clear N_M like that though

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 1.017
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Keychain (3)	northsidegal, Not_Mafia, Eiralox
patchwork (0)	None
KawaiiKame (0)	None
Not_Mafia (1)	Keychain
northsidegal (1)	Bingle
Eiralox (0)	None
Umlaut (0)	None
Dunnstral (0)	None
Bingle (0)	None
NOT VOTING: patchwork, KawaiiKame, Dunnstral, Umlaut
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-06 14:49:20)
Notes: no imaginary creatures here

[lilith2013]

Seeking a replacement for KawaiiKame.

[Eiralox]

Bingle voting northsidegal by quoting those two posts after shooting me down all day for wanting to vote umlaut/nsg convinces me Not_Mafia is onto something here: not keychain/dunnstral but maybe keychain/bingle lol.

[Eiralox]

Either that or I was right earlier and Bingle is bussing for distance and my earlier sus knowing nsg won't go through. Either way after everything bingle has said and done that vote reads horrible and I invite others to entertain the possibility of bingle scum.

I'm not voting Not_Mafia today.

[Eiralox]

Or it's just Umlaut and Bingle like I had from the start and Umlaut is towning it up banking on keychain pushing for quick hammer and northsidegal being kind of vague ending up looking worse than them XD

I apologize that all my reads are: Bingle+ as of now but it's a pet theory and I like it and I want to see it maybe hatch and grow.

I promise the next time I talk bout something like Bingle/Keychain I'll be quoting past posts and try to make actual sense >.<

[Not_Mafia]

Eh, no reason not to vote atp.

VOTE: nsg

[Not_Mafia]

It isn't me, if I were scum I wouldn't have bothered trying to get myself into the coalition, I would have boosted my partner

Why not / why can't you do both?

Because I would have thought it was a fruitless endeavour, I'm shocked I'm actually in the coalition now

[Not_Mafia]

KawaiiKame is a possibility for scum too, I forgot they existed

[Eiralox]

It isn't me, if I were scum I wouldn't have bothered trying to get myself into the coalition, I would have boosted my partner

Why not / why can't you do both?

Because I would have thought it was a fruitless endeavour, I'm shocked I'm actually in the coalition now

i think it's pretty clear why scum would want you in. Does this clear keychain..... I don't know.

Is the team possibly key/nsg key/um um/nsg?

[Bingle]

Bingle voting northsidegal by quoting those two posts after shooting me down all day for wanting to vote umlaut/nsg convinces me Not_Mafia is onto something here: not keychain/dunnstral but maybe keychain/bingle lol.

Your tunnel is immensely frustrating and your inability to actually read my posts makes me want to just vote myself and go V/LA. Congrats. You’ve successfully killed my desire to play this game.

You don’t see any difference between “I don’t want to eliminate a player solely on the back of associations tying them to me” and being willing to eliminate the same player when you actually give decent reasons? Yeah. GLHF. I might be around before deadline.

[Eiralox]

Ok.

[Umlaut]

I had a dream last night that Eiralox and N_M were scum together but I'm just going to do my best to repress it.

[Umlaut]

VOTE: NSG

We're actually in good shape if we assume Eira and N_M are town (which I do), we are guaranteed to get at least one scum just by going through {me, Keychain, NSG}. I want to start here but could live with a Keychain elim.

[Eiralox]

I had a dream last night that Eiralox and N_M were scum together but I'm just going to do my best to repress it.

I'm sure we were sparkling >.<

[Umlaut]

I don't like how slow this is with less than two days left.

Her vanishing second half of the day is pointing more to scum (though I'm sure she's improved from the days where she used to hard lurk as scum), but if she's alive and town D2 she probably benefits town a lot. So there's a decent chance she gets resolved overnight by mafia fearing her since all players in the coalition (except potentially N_M?) would probably have reason to, so I'd rather not waste the elimination on her. Is the expanded version of that stance.

I really doubt anyone in coalition gets resolved by mafia if there is any doubt they're town. Join me on NSG?

[Keychain]

Umlaut I have this awful feeling you're going to stab me in the back at some point but sure, I don't have a better plan VOTE: northsidegal

[Not_Mafia]

Umlaut I have this awful feeling you're going to stab me in the back at some point but sure, I don't have a better plan VOTE: northsidegal

This is scum, knowing that NSG is going to flip town, setting up the Umlaut mis-elim for tomorrow,

[Keychain]

Alrighty miltank if I'm town and north flips town who could be scum fmpov? It's basically you or umlaut, you can't see why I

might

be a little concerned about his alignment at this point??

it's the north vote for me because like I said, no better plan.

[Eiralox]

Yeah I'm down with flipping Keychain, then Umlaut if Keychain not scum.

[Keychain]

@lilith: this VC seems off - I think I should be voting for Not_Mafia rather than N_M voting himself and also me

V OTECOUNT 1.017
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Keychain (3)	northsidegal, Not_Mafia, Eiralox
patchwork (0)	None
KawaiiKame (0)	None
Not_Mafia (1)	Not_Mafia
northsidegal (1)	Bingle
Eiralox (0)	None
Umlaut (0)	None
Dunnstral (0)	None
Bingle (0)	None
NOT VOTING: patchwork, KawaiiKame, Dunnstral, Umlaut
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-06 14:49:20)
Notes: no imaginary creatures here