Demon Slayer - Kimetsu no Yaiba (Game over)

[Frozen Angel]

Kokushibo:

You opened a path… to reach further heights… and you abandoned it… Very weak.

Vote Count 4.11

Ranger (1): Firebringer
hebichan (1): GrandpaMo
Pink Ball (1): hebichan


Not Voting (7): KawaiiKame, GuyInFreezer, Ranger, Enchant, Pink Ball, Klickwork, Flavor Leaf

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to eliminate.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-04-19 17:00:00)

Note: -

[GuyInFreezer]

Alisae tracking Drew who would have targeted me, but got redirected, would still see Drew target me, not Ranger.

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Inspect <- Track

[Flavor Leaf]

Alisae tracking Drew who would have targeted me, but got redirected, would still see Drew target me, not Ranger.

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Bus Drive
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Miscellaneous
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Inspect <- Track

No, no, no. Don't just quote this without explaining.

[Firebringer]

See Hebi agrees im the poisoner

[Firebringer]

Suck it alisae

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE: Ranger

Before day ends, if we go Ranger, I need it to be established why GIF's logic is contradicting and not factual.

so everyone has a ego and wants to prove to eveyrone why they are town?

ok

[GuyInFreezer]

Redirect resolves before tracking. Drew's haste is most likely a misc ability. Tracking is inspection so it resolves last.
Alisae tracking Drew who got nexus'd will see Drew visiting a random target sent by nexus, not the nexus itself.

[GrandpaMo]

Wotcha folks.

On a skim through I feel like hebichan's "miller" musing about firebringer could possibly be S-S when combined with firebringer's "kinda like PGO" attempt to deter investigatives targetting them.

I do see why Ice's backing down in 87 looks suspicious but that's just relative to the other pure RVS stuff going on. I don't think scum would really be that jumpy that early.

Drew and GuyInFreezer both look towny to me. Initial gut feel is Ranger is town too.

VOTE: FireBringer

I don't like this post tbh. Anyone else feel like that?

I dunno if it's actually bad or not.

Idk feels like an imaginality post to me
If I was in game solving mode I’d have questions on what makes it really look like S and S between us but I’m not that curious right now

Nothing scummy about aging, natural process

About how I'm playing thanks

the way you progress in game makes it look like ur appeasing or following crowd on purpose.

I feel Black is actually off this game.
Would be more interested in seeing more posts from her

ngl i feel pretty indifferent to the leading wagon though.
not arguing against it but just feels pretty milquotoast to me.

I want something spicy
VOTE: Black
Come in here and call me scum. Also chat with me.

that did feel like a townie response tho hebi. Good work

{IceDragon70}
{GuyInFreezer, Firebringer}
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{Pink Ball, Doctor Drew, KawaiiKame}
{imaginality, Klickwork, GrandpaMo}
{Kokichi Oma}
{hebichan}
{Flavor Leaf}
{BlueSnakelet, Black}

p14
(ngl I actually feel I have some players too high rn since aside from Blue/Black none of the southern reads are scum to me rn.

Firebringer:

Now would actually be a time to unironically dismantle my readslist and point out the town names too low and the scum names too high.)

i don't have that many strong disagreements here. Mostly cause my reads are like almost all nullish.

I agree GIF is pretty obvtown here. I think Grandpamo is too
Everything else i don't feel like arguing cause i just don't feel strong about.
If i had energy and wanted to argue i would say bluesnake and Ice should nowhere be top or bottom as I don't feel strongly in anyway on either of them but that is me arguing for a null which doesn't give me a good reason to actually argue with ur reads.

I am also thinking i will sort icedragon once i sort u. And I don't like u continuing to push me up the reads lists.

also hebichan is weak town for me.
imaginality is inching towards scummy for how he is approaching his push on me.

VOTE: Imaginality
I will start spicying up this game.
Hey imaginality lets have a chat

i think u should townread hebi.
i mean i have a weak townread on her

Nothing scummy about aging, natural process

About how I'm playing thanks

the way you progress in game makes it look like ur appeasing or following crowd on purpose.

I'm following crowd cause I don't have any strong reads and I thought being on a wagon and applying pressure might help.

Anyhow I'm gonna overcompensate your advice and stick on blue for now.

VOTE: black

I feel like the slot is too quiet and maybe lurking.

P -edit- I was posting this before you said anything fb lol

doesn't feel like she is caring how she looks to me?

also

Is Hebichan someone who normally cares about how they look as a wolf?

im not an expert with hebi scum but i think all scum care who aren't experienced wolves care about their appearance. I mean....hebi doesn't strike me as a very experienced scum player

Hebi strikes me as someone who doesn't have their heart in the game when they play wolf

so u agree with me then

I think PB is right that this will bring a lot of info
VOTE: BlueSnek
if not scum i got words for Ali though.

Pb claiming to track me is a wolf claim btw

Thoughts on Pink Ball/Grandpa/Ranger team?

well pinkie or klick but yeah this is where i am at

i want to back to reads based play
VOTE: Ranger

It targets someone else randomly, so I wouldn't be in the pool of possible redirects back.

so PB is lying?

Starting a fresh read list on grandpas suggestions with FB.

90% of FBs posts are like....one sentence no explanations given coasting, FB has been on every bad wagon, and no good wagon despite calling drew scum at one point.

FB was jailed when there was no night kill.

FB also pointed out that PB has claims that contradict flavor, which means PB is caught twice here, but never pushed this.

I Feel like FBs shitty posting style is sort of his meta based on how other people are treating the slot.

If we think that poisoner is scum aligned, this might be the slot considering both kawaii and myself were going to jail the slot. If kawaii is scum with FB my previous theory could hold that they coordinated and were going to have FB fire the shot then claim to be jailed.

But also FB has been throwing Kawaii under the bus today so it would be strange. Plus Kawaii siteflaked and therefore might not have submitted an action at all last night.

I don't think that FB is confirmed scum based on any of this, but there are scenarios where he could be.

good now do the same on ranger, pink, klick, and FL. mainly ranger. bcause thats the one who u are opposing.

try that.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: Ranger

Before day ends, if we go Ranger, I need it to be established why GIF's logic is contradicting and not factual.

okay just because GIF isn't making sense doesn't make him scum tho

[GuyInFreezer]

Like the only source of human-poison can only be via your nexus or me. But I'm not a poisoner and it can be easily confirmed if it really needs to be checked.

WHY COULDNT THE POISONER JUST TARGET FURT

Because I find it hard to believe that there are two poisoners with exactly the same modifier? Breathing buffer I can maybe see it being duplicate. But poisoner? LOUD poisoners?

GIF-Enchant-Kawaii is a possible solve.

GIF also made a comment when I Firebringer/Klick/Myself were in a strong town block, something like 'I was worried this would happen, all the older players cliquing up'. or something to that extent. It was a discredit attempt to break us up, but not a hard aggression.

I'd bet something that I never said that, but I'm not allowed to bet anything via site rule. Because I never really mentioned you until this day. Also, I'm older player than all three of you.

[GrandpaMo]

here we go now

gif just started a gif vs flavor leaf war

and idk if this scumotivated.

like it was already enough from klick vs pb

but now ranger vs hebichan, klick vs pb, grandpa vs whoever tf, now gif vs fl??? what else enchant vs kawaii????? [that would insane ngl]

[Flavor Leaf]

Player A tracks Player B. Player B targets Me with my ability. The ability gets redirected. But Player A still saw them target me, so Player A gets Player B targeted Flavor Leaf, which is exactly what happened with Pink Ball.

Night 4

Player A (Pink Ball) tracks Player B (Klickwork). Klickwork's role targets everyone. Pink ball saw everyone, but Grandpa and Firebringer. Let's minimize and stick with the strict, "Pink Ball saw Klickwork target Flavor Leaf".

Night 2 GIF Narrative

Player A (Klickwork) tracks Player B (Doctor Drew). Drew made kill and used ability presumed. Klickwork saw Ranger and IceDragon.

Using this same logic, it would have been "Klickwork saw Drew target Flavor Leaf and Ice Dragon".


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Now resolution wise, in that scenario, Drew targeting me would be seen, but the action wouldn't take place on me. It would take place on wherever it got redirected to.

GIF's scenario also would require scum Drew and Scum Flavor to do that basically without a point, and just give a random modifier outthere. No way of it being known that they would be tracked.

If they did know, they wouldn't have made the kill because that's just dumb.

In theory, had I killed Klickwork that night, the Vengekill would have came back to me, then redirected randomly.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like the only source of human-poison can only be via your nexus or me. But I'm not a poisoner and it can be easily confirmed if it really needs to be checked.

WHY COULDNT THE POISONER JUST TARGET FURT

Because I find it hard to believe that there are two poisoners with exactly the same modifier? Breathing buffer I can maybe see it being duplicate. But poisoner? LOUD poisoners?

GIF-Enchant-Kawaii is a possible solve.

GIF also made a comment when I Firebringer/Klick/Myself were in a strong town block, something like 'I was worried this would happen, all the older players cliquing up'. or something to that extent. It was a discredit attempt to break us up, but not a hard aggression.

I'd bet something that I never said that, but I'm not allowed to bet anything via site rule. Because I never really mentioned you until this day. Also, I'm older player than all three of you.

It's literally confirmed.

Poisoner has to be alive for the death to go through, and Ice died.

[GrandpaMo]

@mod i thought i was voting ranger

[Flavor Leaf]

Like the only source of human-poison can only be via your nexus or me. But I'm not a poisoner and it can be easily confirmed if it really needs to be checked.

WHY COULDNT THE POISONER JUST TARGET FURT

Because I find it hard to believe that there are two poisoners with exactly the same modifier? Breathing buffer I can maybe see it being duplicate. But poisoner? LOUD poisoners?

GIF-Enchant-Kawaii is a possible solve.

GIF also made a comment when I Firebringer/Klick/Myself were in a strong town block, something like 'I was worried this would happen, all the older players cliquing up'. or something to that extent. It was a discredit attempt to break us up, but not a hard aggression.

I'd bet something that I never said that, but I'm not allowed to bet anything via site rule. Because I never really mentioned you until this day. Also, I'm older player than all three of you.

I started in 2014, so yes, that is true, but you aren't that much older than me here. Unless you have older accounts, but still.

[Flavor Leaf]

@GIF - Reread IceDragons role and see that if Ice was the only poisoner, Furt would have been healed from his poison and not died.

It is confirmed there is another poisoner with Furt's death flavor.

[Flavor Leaf]

You know I had a feeling that this is quickly becoming a typical old gen vs new gen, so I checked Imaginality’s join date.

And everything made sense.

this is the post from my memory, i was paraphrasing, and it just happened when Klick/FB/Myself were all clicking.

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Ranger

im taking ur advice dude. @FL

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway I'm conceding the whole shenanigan about FL redirecting poison.
I got a confirmation that if ID's poison is redirected by human nexus it would count as blood art.

[Flavor Leaf]

Night 4

Player A (Pink Ball) tracks Player B (Klickwork). Klickwork's role targets everyone. Pink ball saw everyone, but Grandpa and Firebringer. Let's minimize and stick with the strict, "Pink Ball saw Klickwork target Flavor Leaf".

Night 2 GIF Narrative

Player A (Klickwork) tracks Player B (Doctor Drew). Drew made kill and used ability presumed. Klickwork saw Ranger and IceDragon.

Using this same logic, it would have been "Klickwork saw Drew target Flavor Leaf and Ice Dragon".

GIF is pushing that the second one makes sense even thought Ranger and IceD were seen not me.

[GrandpaMo]

Anyway I'm conceding the whole shenanigan about FL redirecting poison.
I got a confirmation that if ID's poison is redirected by human nexus it would count as blood art.

[GrandpaMo]

we keep going back in circles. can we just stop. my head hurts

[hebichan]

I feel like the elim today should always just be either Furtive or BlueSnek tbh

I’m with it. Blue might be a better elim since if Furtive ends up being town, Blue’s dead anyways, which makes a few rough days if Blue is also town.

I don’t care which. I lean scum on Furtive more than Blue, but can’t say I’m overly confident on either of those

blue

Scum are going to start having to deal with Klick-Fire-Flavor trio sooner rather than later.

If one of them are scum, I’d eventually start to realize it as the game went on, and I’m sure they have precautions with me, but we catch a scum or 2, I’m not worried we can’t successfully town block.

Your confidence seems weird here

Not gonna lie, I’m a pretty confident guy.

I’m confident that if I’m wrong on one of Klick/Firebringer, they know they’ll have to take me out eventually too, and vice versa.

I don’t mind actively tying myself to them because I’m generally on board with what they’re saying lately, and if they’re scum, I’ll start to feel the buoy we’ve set sink as time goes on.

And if we are all town, scum are going to have to intervene.

I'm down for an IceDragon claim, tbh

Can everyone just post their no.1 scumread at this time, excepting Drew and Klickwork if possible

Pink Ball

Not interested in going after Klick here in the slightest.

I'd lean over DD there, and even then, I'm leaning it to be T/T.

FL if Drew is honest about his role, why did he visit ranger?

why would he say that as scum?

could be scum mess up, but like it requires him to make a weird choice either way. i almost see it like a bigger blunder if he is scum.

if the game was that easy, i don't know why u/me and ali are all alive still.
i mean i guess ali alive because frame but still....

i think scum could have killed Ice because they thought maybe Alisae was a 3rd party or Ice got a false guilty with the potential to get guilties other wise, and killed Ice could have framed a TownKlick.

I don't necessarily agree that it's an easy solve. We earned some of these town reads if they are real.

Kokichi was a good no-info kill Night 1 since we were on the wrong track from a hard push on Imaginality.

icetargeted furitive

ice fake guilty klick yesterday

And look at that misrep by saying I did nothing day 1. I actively said the opposite but in a way where people could think I was doing nothing.

Grandpa grasping at straws hard right now.

I might not be 100% correct on scum team, but it's clear to me I've caught some in my net on entirely the reaction I've gotten since.

Hebichan is a possible bus on Drew who they think could be going down imo.

i also told u that i agreed with ur gif read and i like ur hebichan read too

I understand. But you gotta see from my pov why I wouldn't necessarily like that. I don't 100% expect to be right, and if anything, I expect to be wrong. So it feels like conditioning when you do something like that. Like hmm, is Grandpa scum trying to reward me for a wrong read, throw me off to distance, stuff like that.

It's juicy stuff to analyze as the game goes on, though, so keep it going. It will help you get town read in the long run, but it's not town indicatve atm. it could be, though, later

Oh, i keep forgetting the tracker thing with Drew.


Hebi looks like a low momentum shifting bus on Drew if I'm being perfectly honest.

Drew/Furtive/Gif makes so much sense right now.

Doctor Drew (7)[Elimination]: Ranger, Flavor Leaf, hebichan, Klickwork, Enchant, Pink Ball, GrandpaMo
Klickwork (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (4):

furtiveglance

, Firebringer, GuyInFreezer, KawaiiKame

and yet, 2 scum on the wagon is confusing for people.

ha

never said it was confusing

i rather highlight flavor leaf

, hebichan, klick and enchant those 4. and two of them are scum

this is what I mean by conditioning.


First of all, the highlight is coming from my POV, and now they're trying to argue that my thing would have been better with me in it.

Go check the read he had on me end of day yesterday. That does not fit.

When you treat them townie, they're happy with you, when you treat them scummy, they take an L.

It's different than a normal town reaction, it's almost immediate change, like a pet spray bottle. This is how I caught Catboi last year to a smaller scale.

Look at Grandpa's post this page. He's doing scum damage control, and he was trying to control this game and get us set on where we ended at the end of the day reads wise to power through a day and consider this 'auto'.

Okay, my big reason for not trusting Pink Ball here:

I used my Magical Fog last night. Pink couldn't have seen Klickwork targeting me.

Ranger and Grandpa are also both looking town to me on a posts level.

UNVOTE: Ranger

GIF/Pink I can't see as scum right now.

Enchant, Kawaii slot, Klick is probably just the scum team.

Firebringer I'm 50/50.

thios progression on grandpa seems weird to me. Why did you move grandpa from your biggest scumread to basically confirmed town? There's no real mechanical reason. I don't see much of a post change in the meantime..

But what's interesting to me here is FL has caught pink in a lie as well. Once time is weird, two times is scum, no?

FL, you and I both saw PB lie so why can't you see them as sum in your later read list?

i have to assume we share an alignment here based off us both having a similar thing happen with PB claiming tracking.

[Flavor Leaf]

Anyway I'm conceding the whole shenanigan about FL redirecting poison.
I got a confirmation that if ID's poison is redirected by human nexus it would count as blood art.

So 'TownRanger does not = ScumFlavor' Is the concession acceptance?

Like, I'm fine if you scum read me after a town ranger flip, just that confirmed ness of it all had to be shut down.

I even think Ranger's probs scum.

[Klickwork]

PB can just track GiF