Newbie 2117 | Postgame

[Deltabreedy]

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Quoting for attention. You've been active elsewhere on the site today and offered nothing here.

Need something from you and Mala and to an extent Chao as well - not a fan of the chip in comments and then dipping without any real advancement. It's making today really narrow in scope.

General Reads:

I'm only seeing defensive and explanatory posts - no gamesolving from Mala.
Think Blue is acting super weird. The rolefishing plus then just quite openly sheeping Andante just doesnt sit right with me. Scummiest read of the game for me so far.
Reading through and disregarding the 'locktown' attitude that Andante has on Black, they are in a weird spot for me. I don't know why Andante has this implicit trust of them.
Chao has barely said anything this game. There's a lot of words but they say very very little. Chao hasn't really taken a solid position all game and I feel is the most guilty of active lurking.

Kawaii apparently doesn't care enough to post.

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Like do you really not think that Blue and

Kawaii sheeping

you is in the slight bit weird?

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Yeah I cased Black, and then I was completely convinced for some time that you were both Masons. After that I'm tentative to say that Black is town but I have significantly stronger reads (Namely, Blue - who I'm pretty sure on and I've committed to openly.) If Black was my strongest scumread,

I'd be back on them, but as it happens I find Kawaii's play to be quite scummy so at present my reads look like:

Blue
Kawaii

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Ninja'd:
I'm completely against using meta to try and clear someone.

Kawaii's jump onto the Black wagon with you is so easily something that could come from scum and they'll be very aware of the previous game with you. Clearing them for something that is at best NAI and at worst scummy just makes zero sense.

Kawaii is also scummy and it really boils my pish that you're townreading them from meta (in a context where presumably you were co-ordinating actively as Masons), Andante.

I disagree. I think Blue's play throughout the game has been scummy and that today is the day.

I'll hammer a Kawaii wagon, but I won't just drop my case on Blue as it stands.

Can I point out that in #867, Blue says that there is a 'Non-negligable chance' that Black and I are TvT - and that in #622-623, they actively townread me.

So why is it that they would now (without justification) look to hammer me over Kawaii?

[Deltabreedy]

Yeah put a lot of work into being open minded here haven't you?

I tunnel pretty bad as town. Just be thankful I was able to pull myself out long enough to consider I could be wrong

What if I told you... you're wrong and you should join me on a Blue wagon immediately.

[Deltabreedy]

UNVOTE: Kawaii
VOTE: Blue

[Black]

Delta, do you have a case against Kawaii that goes beyond "well, they're either scum or anti-town and should be eliminated regardless"?

Do you have a case against Delta? I don't even think you've expressed why he's scummy iirc

[Deltabreedy]

Black join me on this now - they literally dont have a case but are willing to hammer someone they townread

[Black]

Delta your #925 kinda makes sense

I'm gonna be pissed if I'm getting talked out of a correct solve

[Deltabreedy]

Mala's partner should be in Delta, chao, Kame.

I think in your most recent Delta read you said he's not scum because scum wouldn't have the progression he had D2. Do you still feel this way?

I do not.

I townread him before mostly because of a bias of mine. I thought his aggressive behavior was inherently town indicative. But it wouldn't be really that difficult to play aggressively as scum.

This is it, that's all

[Deltabreedy]

Black switch your vote before Blue hammers

[Deltabreedy]

If you feel that strongly then hammer me at deadline but THIS IS THE SOLVE - Blue = Scum

[Black]

Delta if you think it's Blue/kawaii then why unvote the leading wagon to push a new one right before the deadline?

UNVOTE: while I think about this

[Deltabreedy]

Because I'm 99.5% on Blue, around 70% on Kawaii.

I still have a fairly hefty distrust of you but frankly your gameplay and the pure numerics of not rolling scum like a bajillion times in a row suggest to me that you're town with a pinch of confirmation bias.

Vote Blue, lets get it done. If you really-really think it's me then I'm here at deadline to hammer myself if that knocks you out of this funk of misreading and gets you considering others more strongly.

[Deltabreedy]

Frankly with Kawaii not being here ever, Andante being flippy & floppy as hell, with Chao being replaced and Mala not really being present much - I kind of need you to be town or we've already lost.

[Black]

You threatening to hammer yourself does absolutely nothing for me tbh

Even if you and I vote Blue I don't think there will be enough support to push that through

[Black]

I think it has to be you or Kawaii this close to the deadline

[Black]

Frankly with Kawaii not being here ever, Andante being flippy & floppy as hell, with Chao being replaced and Mala not really being present much - I kind of need you to be town or we've already lost.

Are you suggesting kawaii might be town here? I thought you were 70% sure he was scum?

[Black]

I can't believe I'm about to let both Delta and mala survive this day phase

At least if I end up being right then I can blame the absolutely atrocious activity levels from the other townies for why my solve didn't get pushed

[Deltabreedy]

So for goodness sake don't be scum please.

Ninja'd: So lets go for Kawaii then at 70%, with Blue at basically 100% tomorrow. I have faith that we can get this done in spite of lurking players and replacements.

Blue has gone super-quiet because they HAVE NO CASE. I wager that you probably unvoted seconds from a hammer which is good, but now I really need you to focus on not limming me.

Ninja'd with the kawaii post - no, what I am saying is that it's very likely that they're scum, but people seem to struggle to read because of the lack of activity, they could fly under the radar D3 again so easily, similarly to how Chao has just with avoiding replacement. With them not being here, even in a smaller circle of players they could probably coast due to how many inactive players there are.

[Malakittens]

I’ll vote kawaii to avoid a no elim

Also I thought kawaii hates meta reads

VOTE: kawaii

[Deltabreedy]

UNVOTE: Blue
VOTE: Kawaii

Shoes don't taste nice, if you've engineered this then I'm not making the same promise I did when you led me by the snout last game.

[Deltabreedy]

Wait that was Mala?!?

[Black]

I’ll vote kawaii to avoid a no elim

Also I thought kawaii hates meta reads

VOTE: kawaii

Would you be willing to vote Blue?

[Black]

What the hell

[Black]

If Kawaii is town KILL MALA AND DELTA

[Deltabreedy]

What in the - I thought that was a Black vote, so I skipped the preview and just posted.

[Deltabreedy]

If Kawaii is town, then MALA first