Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER

[Gimli]

if kawa is the actual n5 actual doctor then the rand trolled us hard

[Gimli]

i mean its very fcking convenient claim esp when that suits ranger's fear of missing out pr equity

[Gimli]

so my first instinct is that its bullshit

[Ranger]

Saying "I think it's LLD/Kawaii"
"the only other possible solve is STD/Kawaii"
And then voting me instead of

The person who is in both of those worlds

Is a straight up scumclaim

I'm inclined to agree; it appears as pandering to me, and pandering is something Radical Rat has been guilty of the entire game.

I've not yet done the work I intended to, can't do it this second but will within next 14 hours.

[Ranger]

LLD: "Town need to work together, and follow whatever Ranger says!"
Me: "I have two really confident scumreads, I'll pick the one that should be optimal from the rest of the Town's perspective, following Ranger's argument."
LLD: "No that's scumclaiming!"

The issue is, you're not LLD.

You weren't the one advocating for doing whatever I say.

LLD can believe it's optimal to follow me, while also believing your actions where you follow me are a scumclaim.

[Ranger]

STD, your take on all of this is WAY more suspicious than RR's is.

I'm also inclined towards this take as well.

I understand why Save the Dragons would have the stances he's given as town in

theory

.

I didn't need LLD's pointing it out to naturally form the same conclusion of her; STD's defense of RR is tangibly

there

, and suspect.

[Save The Dragons]

i think we lost this game

[Save The Dragons]

im not sure what to do about it

[Save The Dragons]

i guess i'm confused why ranger is like

"we should vote within the three of {RR, LLD, Gimli} due to potential doc shenanigans and then when RR does that for ranger's reasoning it's suspect

[Ranger]

this really feels like you're trying to control the game state, not trying to sort

I'm aware of the possibility.

LLD is still giving voice to arguments I myself was seeing without her having done so.

I

agree

with her. I realize it could be her controlling things in a way pandering to my biases. Still, I see the same things she's pointing out and feel there's at least a decent chance she's correct.

[Gimli]

std do you think its lld?

[Save The Dragons]

how can you agree with her if you wanted to kill outside of kawaii today

[Radical Rat]

I'm still not advocating for doing whatever you say. I'm recognizing that it is true I need to convince you if we're going to eliminate scum, so picking the scumread that's more likely for us to agree on is just... the best way to get something actually done?

If you were pushing Gimli or something, I'd be fighting you on it. But LLD is a very strong scumread, and you've already expressed a preference for her over either Kawaii/StD, so what should I do here? Just park on Kawaii because LLD isn't the absolute most ideal vote, and force us into a no lim?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm still not advocating for doing whatever you say. I'm recognizing that it is true I need to convince you if we're going to eliminate scum, so picking the scumread that's more likely for us to agree on is just... the best way to get something actually done?

If you were pushing Gimli or something, I'd be fighting you on it. But LLD is a very strong scumread, and you've already expressed a preference for her over either Kawaii/StD, so what should I do here? Just park on Kawaii because LLD isn't the absolute most ideal vote, and force us into a no lim?

Will you vote STD then?

[Save The Dragons]

i think lld is a possibility

[Gimli]

i think lld is a possibility

how more likely is kawa mafia after the n5 claim?

[Gimli]

also do you think lld/rr is ever a thing after today? im thinking probably no

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think lld/rr is a thing no

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like lets say Ranger comes in and says. "I want to do STD today and votes there."

Are you going to vote against Ranger and force a no elim or worse let scum win?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is what I really want to know because I have an ego the size of the sun and I am checking my ego in favour of correct play.

So its hard for me to see anyone as town who wouldn't check their ego and do the correct town play

[Gimli]

ill do the correct town play for once

VOTE: kawa

everyone follow me to victory

flip lld tomorrow thx

[Gimli]

if kawa is the actual n5 doc then thats okay im fine losing the game to that

[Save The Dragons]

why do people keep saying "the" there could be multiple there could be none

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh.

Is it RR Gimli

Or is there a townie scumsiding

[Gimli]

its super interesting how what ranger wants which is like thinly mechanical best play is being brute forced over FLIPPING THE SCUMMIEST SLOT which imho its kawa

i ask y'all again whats more likely here, that kawa is the n5 doctor or that kawa is simply mafia lying

this claim is brutal evidence that kawa is scum no?