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[Alisae]

Anyway I'm more included to believe that 964 is likely to just be a real thought but something I noticed is they're also fosing Gimli and I feel like a lot of people are fos'ing Gimli.

I think Gimli is town because he said his TR on me got weaker in a way that seemed wolfy but is probably just too wolfy to be a wolf because I can't think of why a wolf would ever actually write a post like 1114. I read 1186 and I'm like "ya uh huh ya ok I think I can agree with most of what Gimli is saying here"

[Alisae]

Also Imaginality's post is big garbo and I'm trying to decide if I want to vote Imaginality or Rad and who is scummier lmfao

Wasn't Imaginality a strong TR of yours?

Not recently? Not since the first iteration of their posting when you convinced me to swap to Marashu. Their posting regarding Mith and I has been scummy and I talked about what I saw with Datisi

When you offered me deal you mentioned them as a strong tr but I see that has changed. What do you think about my read on Imaginality?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also Imaginality's post is big garbo and I'm trying to decide if I want to vote Imaginality or Rad and who is scummier lmfao

Wasn't Imaginality a strong TR of yours?

Not recently? Not since the first iteration of their posting when you convinced me to swap to Marashu. Their posting regarding Mith and I has been scummy and I talked about what I saw with Datisi

When you offered me deal you mentioned them as a strong tr but I see that has changed. What do you think about my read on Imaginality?

What is your read on imaginality?

[Alisae]

When I read Imaginality's posts backwards, up to the point where he voted you, I feel like what I see with Imaginality is all of the things I think wolves would want to do coming from a townie's mouth. Is that weird?
I'm not used to the idea that someone as scum makes up a theory on how someone is PLANNING a bus someone on D2 or future days. I remember pushing Aureal for presenting some kind of crazy logic in a newbie game that someone was just going off of the notes in their wolf PT on what to do next, but when I was bantering w/ Klick during Demon Slayer, that's another thing I bring up and I wanted his take on how he would read a post like that and he said that he thought that post always comes from town

Anyway I'm more included to believe that 964 is likely to just be a real thought but something I noticed is they're also fosing Gimli and I feel like a lot of people are fos'ing Gimli.

I think Gimli is town because he said his TR on me got weaker in a way that seemed wolfy but is probably just too wolfy to be a wolf because I can't think of why a wolf would ever actually write a post like 1114. I read 1186 and I'm like "ya uh huh ya ok I think I can agree with most of what Gimli is saying here"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When I read Imaginality's posts backwards, up to the point where he voted you, I feel like what I see with Imaginality is all of the things I think wolves would want to do coming from a townie's mouth. Is that weird?
I'm not used to the idea that someone as scum makes up a theory on how someone is PLANNING a bus someone on D2 or future days. I remember pushing Aureal for presenting some kind of crazy logic in a newbie game that someone was just going off of the notes in their wolf PT on what to do next, but when I was bantering w/ Klick during Demon Slayer, that's another thing I bring up and I wanted his take on how he would read a post like that and he said that he thought that post always comes from town

Anyway I'm more included to believe that 964 is likely to just be a real thought but something I noticed is they're also fosing Gimli and I feel like a lot of people are fos'ing Gimli.

I think Gimli is town because he said his TR on me got weaker in a way that seemed wolfy but is probably just too wolfy to be a wolf because I can't think of why a wolf would ever actually write a post like 1114. I read 1186 and I'm like "ya uh huh ya ok I think I can agree with most of what Gimli is saying here"

I think you're too clever by half. I think you're looking with the original town view you had on the slot, seeing terrible actions with intent and forethought behind them and going "well it sounds a biv like a townie innit" and I mean... no? I don't agree?

[Alisae]

I'll think about it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think the dissonance and hedging and contradictions in Imaginality's play combined with the claims and theories they make that contain both lunacy and paranoia that anyone could say about anyone "I think LLD is setting up for a bus Day 2" "I think LLD is informed" "I think LLD is scum backing off Marashu"

These statements are never given any reason to exist, they are just random, as Imaginality puts it "hot takes".

Like I write a whole towncase and literally save marashu when if I don't do that, people kill Marashu today for his pop in reads, and Imaginality goes "oh I think Marashu's town but LLD is scum still "

It's ridiculous. There's no hesitance, no second thought.

Like let me put it this way. There are not 2 townies in this game who both refuse to re-evaluate on me. One is town and the other realized it was safe to do and is doing it.

[mith]

I await with baited breath the dismantling of my junk case.

I think it’s really easy for a wolf!lld to just votepark marashu and if they ever do vote marashu that’s something I feel like is worth investigating

My totally-paranoid take on LLD/Marashu is that they are scum together. I don't think it's actually likely, and I'm certainly not going to spend the time right now digging through all... (checks) 333 LLD posts (this will probably be wrong by the time I finish writing this) to see if it makes any sense, but that's been on my mind since I unvoted LLD, LLD unvoted Marashu, and momentum seems to be converging elsewhere.

Overall non-paranoid take would place them both somewhere in a nebulous blob in the middle of the pack; Marashu has posted

just

enough to not make me think he's deliberately lurking, and I agree with LLD that it doesn't make a lot of sense to not come back with something stronger if he's scum (but, scum are bad sometimes). LLD has the opposite problem of posting so much content that it's not hard to find some things I like to go with the things I was voting her for.

Anyway. I would vote for Rad over Marashu right now if it came to a deadline thing (not that we are anywhere close to that yet). Quite happy on imaginality, until he blows up my junk case of course.

[mith]

*bated. Sigh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

At some point in time, townies generally do need to take second thought about posts and actions. Imaginality isn't doing that.

The last time Imaginality hedged on me was when they were using that hedge to set up a Mith vs LLD dichotomy. Since that fell apart it's just been LLD pushes with no weight behind them and general writen as tinfoil hat theories, essentially.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I await with baited breath the dismantling of my junk case.

I think it’s really easy for a wolf!lld to just votepark marashu and if they ever do vote marashu that’s something I feel like is worth investigating

My totally-paranoid take on LLD/Marashu is that they are scum together. I don't think it's actually likely, and I'm certainly not going to spend the time right now digging through all... (checks) 333 LLD posts (this will probably be wrong by the time I finish writing this) to see if it makes any sense, but that's been on my mind since I unvoted LLD, LLD unvoted Marashu, and momentum seems to be converging elsewhere.

Overall non-paranoid take would place them both somewhere in a nebulous blob in the middle of the pack; Marashu has posted

just

enough to not make me think he's deliberately lurking, and I agree with LLD that it doesn't make a lot of sense to not come back with something stronger if he's scum (but, scum are bad sometimes). LLD has the opposite problem of posting so much content that it's not hard to find some things I like to go with the things I was voting her for.

Anyway. I would vote for Rad over Marashu right now if it came to a deadline thing (not that we are anywhere close to that yet). Quite happy on imaginality, until he blows up my junk case of course.

I apologize for being a monolith of posts.

[Alisae]

Hi, a brief check-in, pain and parenting getting in the way of posting. I'll be free from the latter later so I'll respond to mith's junk case against me later today (NZ time) and some random other stuff from my skim of what's happened since. Also any specific questions if you bold them at me.

For now: my spicy one line take is LLD is still scum, and Maru is town. It's easy for scum to find reasons to towncase someone they know is town. And there are more other viable targets to mislim than earlier compared to Marashu or bust so switching to townreading Marashu makes LLD look better with less risk than before.

I obviously recognize the wolf!motive for this post. This feels like a wolf looking to discredit LLD. I have a hard time seeing this being a genuine thought because I don't think it aims to engage at all with what you're saying but rather just goes out to attack you for doing it

[Alisae]

My also first initial impression of Imaginality is that in Demon Slayer, they were saying things that made sense about the game as I was railroading them, so like comparing this to that, this doesn't feel like something that makes sense

[Alisae]

I await with baited breath the dismantling of my junk case.

I think it’s really easy for a wolf!lld to just votepark marashu and if they ever do vote marashu that’s something I feel like is worth investigating

My totally-paranoid take on LLD/Marashu is that they are scum together. I don't think it's actually likely, and I'm certainly not going to spend the time right now digging through all... (checks) 333 LLD posts (this will probably be wrong by the time I finish writing this) to see if it makes any sense, but that's been on my mind since I unvoted LLD, LLD unvoted Marashu, and momentum seems to be converging elsewhere.

Overall non-paranoid take would place them both somewhere in a nebulous blob in the middle of the pack; Marashu has posted

just

enough to not make me think he's deliberately lurking, and I agree with LLD that it doesn't make a lot of sense to not come back with something stronger if he's scum (but, scum are bad sometimes). LLD has the opposite problem of posting so much content that it's not hard to find some things I like to go with the things I was voting her for.

Anyway. I would vote for Rad over Marashu right now if it came to a deadline thing (not that we are anywhere close to that yet). Quite happy on imaginality, until he blows up my junk case of course.

I'm fine looking elsewhere. If that's the case, it should reveal itself with time.

[Rad]

@LLD for what reason did you originally vote Marashu? I'm having a hard time figuring that out.

VOTE: Marashu
LLD this one

Sure, why not. I agree with your assessment, for the most part.

Vote: Marashu

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD for what reason did you originally vote Marashu? I'm having a hard time figuring that out.

VOTE: Marashu
LLD this one

Sure, why not. I agree with your assessment, for the most part.

Vote: Marashu

Imaginality townread at the time

[Rad]

@LLD for what reason did you originally vote Marashu? I'm having a hard time figuring that out.

VOTE: Marashu
LLD this one

Sure, why not. I agree with your assessment, for the most part.

Vote: Marashu

Imaginality townread at the time

Ok so imaginality town read, don't want to flip your friend, so marashu is the winner 6. Makes sense.

[Rad]

@LLD how confident are you in marashu town here? If he goes another 48 hours not saying anything, you fine with it? He's at 20 again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD how confident are you in marashu town here? If he goes another 48 hours not saying anything, you fine with it? He's at 20 again.

I'm 10000000% confident the slot is town. I already said this, I'm willing to risk my life over that read, I think.

It's... I'm not comfortable with them lurking out again but I can't not see what I see?

[Rad]

VOTE: Rad
I am going to come back to the thread later but Getting on when LLD gets off reads as wolf!Motivated to me

Can you explain the wolf thought process you believe happened?

[Rad]

Anyone around? Zzzz

[Alisae]

VOTE: Rad
I am going to come back to the thread later but Getting on when LLD gets off reads as wolf!Motivated to me

Can you explain the wolf thought process you believe happened?

Seems like a panic reaction to try to maintain status quo

[Rad]

VOTE: Rad
I am going to come back to the thread later but Getting on when LLD gets off reads as wolf!Motivated to me

Can you explain the wolf thought process you believe happened?

Seems like a panic reaction to try to maintain status quo

The status quo of what, a mara wagon that I previously chose not to join?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Rad
I am going to come back to the thread later but Getting on when LLD gets off reads as wolf!Motivated to me

Can you explain the wolf thought process you believe happened?

Seems like a panic reaction to try to maintain status quo

The status quo of what, a mara wagon that I previously chose not to join?

the atmosphere of "Mara's post is bad"

[Alisae]

I am here to dedicate brainpower.
First thing I want to do is re-read from when marashu posted reads because I don't think I absorbed everything that I could reading that as I was waking up