Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[The Keeper]

While I admit I've been absent - being in a field for a long weekend running around with a R U A WIZARD tends to take up all your focus, especially when you're mobile only and have to make your battery last 4 days and your Battery Pack seems weirdly underpowered... there's no excuses for misgendering me. It has my pronouns available in many places.

https://my.pronouns.page/are/they/them

[furtiveglance]

Also I believe from information the moderator has provided in the opening post of the Affiliation Vacuum that I am in a masonry.

So going for the mason is not a good idea.

Flavor Leaf said this explicitly wasn't the case.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: The Keeper

[The Keeper]

Important thing I said you've overlooked, I said I believe.

There is a chance of moderator lies and I said as much when Fl replaced in that due to the bastard nature of the game, it may not be.

[The Keeper]

FL would confirm that I believe, but I don't believe he'll be here before the end of day.

That said, furtive, you are. and you are still someone I believe to be scum. You've done little else in the glimpses I've seen to convince me otherwise too.

[furtiveglance]

For what it's worth, I asked the mod if they could be scum with Affiliation, so it is possible for RedKeeper/TownFlavor.

It makes no sense for both Keeper/Myself to be Affiliation as same group scum on a game design level, but I'll let others analyze into that.

When I came into the game, it did seem like we were Pseudo-Masons. Keeper came into the Vacuum saying 'into a masonry no less', so they did play it like a Pseudo Masonry.

Blue specifically found a Keeper crumb, I guess, to successfully target Keeper.

This clearly states you aren't a Mason

[The Keeper]

Amusingly that "into the masonry" post was towards Ice. Before FL replaced in and yes, I treated it as a psuedomasonry. I stand by that stance, I would find it incredibly odd if in such a setup some essentialy scum power was wasted into some neighbourhood, but two roles that specifically have to find each other to gain the neighbourhood, thats considerably impressive.

Upon replacement FL asked if we were masons, if I could be trusted and not have my role worried about. My immediate answer was the game is bastard, the PM implies town but others could be an option.

Theorycrafting is wonderful. And still more than your contributions.

[The Keeper]

Now, mechanically you always leave Libra behind because it messes with your stats, in this particular case, Abgenon needs to be resolved. The miller cannot be cleared, and needs to be removed before ELO.

I understand as much as it frustrates me that the seed I'm on is B453M3N7 given my 4 days in a field and absent from game is warranted of suspicion on me, as well as condemned scum attempting to slam me for simple philosophy from someone who gets far too bored and considers these things a point of amusement. Also a small misunderstanding on the clearances of people from the investigations performed.

Hugir's contemplations and emotional drops seem to be an attempt to save themselves while aiming for pity and an attempt at incrimination. That said after the onslaught of misgendering I've witnessed I'll confess I have additional bias here in wanting to see the slot gone, my Twisted Spoons have also been depleted so I need to be cautious there.

[The Keeper]

Between the appearance of devil and angel, I should have enough coins to ensure a good deal here.

VOTE: Abnegation

[Hugir]

mb on misgendering

With that said, you need the miller “resolved” when today is basically the ELo?

[Hugir]

This is me not hammering

Although idk if it matters in multiball

[Feysal]

Well, I have already said I have more faith in Hugir being town than Abnegation. I don't care about resolving the miller claim, I just think she is the most likely to be Benediction. I stand corrected on the theorycrafting, she was talking about it on day one, but the most important thing pointing at her is still the double roleblock.

This day phase is going to end at around 5 AM my time, and I will be asleep by then. Unless something changes in the next hour or so, my vote is not moving, since I won't be there to move it.

Keeper, if you're here, can you confirm whether you ever received a flyer? I tried to give you one on day one, and I've wondered if you ever got it since you've never said anything about it.

[Narration]

Day 3 Count V

Abnegation (

E-1

) - ActionDan, Flavor Leaf, Feysal, The Keeper
The Keeper (3) - Hugir, Abnegation, furtiveglance
Hugir (2) - IceDragon70, Enchant

Not Voting

- N/A

Notes

• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if I missed any votes or questions.

Day 3

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-25 11:44:00)

[The Keeper]

mb on misgendering

With that said, you need the miller “resolved” when today is basically the ELo?

Did I miss a confirmation on the game setup?

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't think all the theorycrafting is going to lead us to a solution.

I hard disagree. It goes over all options.

[Flavor Leaf]

Abnegation over Keeper here 100% of the time, if only for pure mech reasons.

There is scum on Keeper wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hugir, we need your hammer.

[Flavor Leaf]

Furtive also ObvScum.

[Hugir]

If we assume 9:2:2 setup, today is most likely 6:1:2.
If we mislim (5:1:2) and Enchant is telling the truth about the lover, then dying lover makes the game 3:1:2 which town can no longer win, and that’s with assuming benediction can’t kill.

And yet here you are going “miller needs to be flipped”
Like not even scumreading the miller

With that said, I really wonder if Ab is really scum here. None of the teams I thought up sat right with me (e.g. Feysal green, AD/Keeper red), and that actually hella boggled my mind. I still townread Abnegation, but teams don’t make sense to me if I don’t include her in the pool. I went all “ShowerThoughts” and “reads over mech” and all, but maybe being locked into that and refuse to believe otherwise is why I kept being confused the whole time. Although I kinda take proud on my ability to find town, maybe this time my read was simply wrong. Like if I hammer and Ab flips town, ironically I’d be the one who costs the game with a hammer albeit with a chance of salvage. But this is a game after all, and sometimes, I just gotta yolo.

Sorry if you flip town Ab.

VOTE: Abnegation

[Hugir]

Checking out for tonight, I’ll check the flip tomorrow

[Flavor Leaf]

the roleblock theory is the real best reason to take out Abneg, dont care about their miller claim tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

If we mislim (5:1:2) and Enchant is telling the truth about the lover, then dying lover makes the game 3:1:2 which town can no longer win, and that’s with assuming benediction can’t kill.

damn, this is a scum slip likely.

[Flavor Leaf]

automatically is assuming furt is town.

[Hugir]

automatically is assuming furt is town.

I really don’t see scum getting a loverizer, as much as I’d like to choke him

[Flavor Leaf]

Meaning Abnegation, Keeper, Hugir could be the scum world we're living in.