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[SirCakez]

@SirCakez Can the tanuki suit power up be used with regular action?

I can answer game/mechanic questions in PMs.

[SirCakez]

@cakez: if a post contained a hammer vote and an unvote in that order would you count it as a hammer?

Yes

[SirCakez]

Votecount 2.1

Adorable (1) - Fate

Not voting (7) - Cerberus v666, wgeurts, Petapan, Adorable, Jingle, Radical Rat, HighPrincessErinys

Powerup Votes

Radical Rat (2) - Radical Rat, Fate
HighPrincessErinys (1) - HighPrincessErinys

Not Voting (5) - Adorable, wgeurts, Petapan, Jingle, Cerberus v666

(expired on 2023-05-08 13:31:00) remain until day end

Fate is V/LA through Sunday April 30.

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

[Radical Rat]

Reminder that we ARE on a pretty strict time schedule here.

At this point, I cannot imagine a claim Fate could make that would make it so that I shouldn't have the power up.

As it stands now, we have the potential to have two people protected: My target, and whoever gets the suit. Trouble is, since my claim is known now, I am highly likely to be either blocked or killed, which means that second protection isn't reliable. Having two people essentially guaranteed to be safe is just objectively better, is it not?

[Jingle]

I think it is highly likely scum has a very strong workaround for the tanuki suit, such as a sman. I find it very unlikely that scum has multiple such work arounds. To that effect I think it’s much higher ev for you and another protective to cross target and lower the risk of a soft fake guilty that way than for you to get the tabuk suit outright. Also, as you pointed out, you have a role which is a soft counterclaim to the setup itself. Added onto that, your role is one that is inherently low information if it succeeds, so is less important to ensure it isn’t interfered with than other roles even if I’m wrong and scum don’t have an SMan or we manage to hit the sman today.

[Jingle]

PowerUp: HPE

[Jingle]

Sure, read for me my content but leave my absence out of it. I am going to be reading in the next hour.

Also I strongly disagree that I haven't got content, I'm one of the largest posters despite having not been active past few days. I hope that I'll find actual content regarding said posts that I can interact with.

Was rereading wgeurts’ iso and I saw this. To clarify, this was wgeurts responding to a post where I said that wgeurts was prodded for lack of content. I didn’t mean that to be taken as “wgeurts doesn’t have content” which is a blatantly untrue statement, but rather a point of fact. Wgeurts was literally prodded despite making a prod he because the game rules specify you must make a game advancing post every 48 hours. At this point clearing this up is probably a nonissue, but I noticed at least wgeurts seemed to think I meant the former.

[Radical Rat]

I am not confident on the existence of a Strongman, but it is true that we have a strangely high amount of protective power claimed right now...

@Adorable
Could you confirm how your bodyguard interacts with protection on you? If you were to have the Tanuki or a similar effect, and the person you target is attempted to be killed, do you still die or does it count as though they'd targeted you directly?

[Jingle]

Normal Bodyguard explicitly doesn’t redirect the kill so a successful bodyguard attempt should kill adorable even with your or tanuki interference.

Also, powerups are explicitly not part of a role and so would not be inherited by a backup.

[Radical Rat]

Normal Bodyguard explicitly doesn’t redirect the kill so a successful bodyguard attempt should kill adorable even with your or tanuki interference.

Also, powerups are explicitly not part of a role and so would not be inherited by a backup.

This is my suspicion as well, but I would like explicit confirmation regardless

[Radical Rat]

Though the backup point is somewhat irrelevant now

[Jingle]

The latter is mod confirmed, the former assumes adorable is a normal bodyguard which is a thing I can’t ask the mod directly but wasn’t pursuing atm because it’s honestly a non issue imo. Adorable dying through the use of her ability is a good thing.

[Jingle]

Though the backup point is somewhat irrelevant now

It rather isn’t, but I can explain that after we’ve finished with the claims.

[Cerberus v666]

My remaining shots are a 1x roleblock and a 1x BP. BP is an active action. Strongman is almost guaranteed given both of those powers.

Adorable, RR's question is very important. The key distinction here is whether your bodyguard is being interpreted as a redirect, where all the/at least one of the shots that go to your target are redirected to you, or if there are two independent effects, one where you give someone protection, and a second where you die if the protected person is targeted with a killing effect.

In the first scenario, I would expect the tanooki suit to save you(enabling a cross protect between you and RR), while in the second scum could just shoot at rr to kill you if they wanted, and if they have a strongman they could also pierce your protection to get two kills.

[Radical Rat]

The latter is mod confirmed, the former assumes adorable is a normal bodyguard which is a thing I can’t ask the mod directly but wasn’t pursuing atm because it’s honestly a non issue imo. Adorable dying through the use of her ability is a good thing.

It's important because we can use that to potentially differentiate between the intended kill targets.

[Jingle]

Hm. We’re missing an expected role. Interesting.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hm. We’re missing an expected role. Interesting.

Hm, true. This is pretty sure it knows what you're talking about and that is a LITTLE strange.

[Adorable]

I asked just now.

[Jingle]

Adorable
Petapan
Wgeurts*
HighPrincessErinys
Fate
Radical Rat
Cerberus v666

This is roughly where I'm at at the moment, btw. Obviously pending Fate's claim, but yeah.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Wgeurts*

What's the footnote on the asterisk, pray tell?

[Adorable]

Adorable
Petapan
Wgeurts*
HighPrincessErinys
Fate
Radical Rat
Cerberus v666

This is roughly where I'm at at the moment, btw. Obviously pending Fate's claim, but yeah.

Is the bottom your suspects or is it the top?

[Jingle]

the footnote is from the OP, it denotes a prod. I literally copied the Plist and reordered it based on what felt right.

It's town

Scum

as is standard.

[Jingle]

yes, I'm aware that my reads have massively shifted over the last 3 days.

[Adorable]

I asked in pm what would happen if I had the tanuki suit and protected someone from a kill and SirCakez said I will die. The suit only stops actions.

[Adorable]

This is GIF's readslist.

Adorable
Radical Rat
HPE
Fate
Jingle
petapan
wgeurts
Cerb v666