TM 2023 | Masterchef MafiaScum (Game over)

[furtiveglance]

We all care, furtive, what's your role called?

I'm a neighbouriser, haven't done it yet

Is your role flavour in a theme game neighbouriser?

What are you on about? I'm a recipe for a food, aren't we all?

[Doctor Drew]

We all care, furtive, what's your role called?

I'm a neighbouriser, haven't done it yet

Is your role flavour in a theme game neighbouriser?

What are you on about? I'm a recipe for a food, aren't we all?

What?

[Dessew]

I'm a Thief, bianco was an Inspector, Aureal and Drew claim to be an Eavesdropper and a Redistributor, respectively. Are you saying, you're a Neighbouriser?

[Morning Tweet]

It says you are a recipe but you're also something else

[Dessew]

Tweet, I'm confused. Are you explaining it to me or to furtive?

Also, it's a bit embarrassing, but I've just noticed that you go by she, and I've been consistently referring to you as a he. Sorry about that.

[McMenno]

UNVOTE:
I mean, the other roles in the game don't really have an equivalent for normal mafia, so... besides, a neighboriser should be easy to prove
I might vote Korina later

[Morning Tweet]

We all care, furtive, what's your role called?

I'm a neighbouriser, haven't done it yet

Is your role flavour in a theme game neighbouriser?

What are you on about? I'm a recipe for a food, aren't we all?

Mostly in response to this

I initially had this understanding but this is wrong

[Morning Tweet]

Shea and my team in general has been bringing up that Drew basically A.) claimed scums power and B.) that role is really really strong acting as both doctor and vigilante.

Basically in hollow night mafia gimli claimed scums power as his ability. Fresh on the noggin

It is kind of weird that you just do what scum does and your role is somewhat of an upgrade to Dessews.

I have a pet theory that you're meant to just kill townies and induce swing. But this is probably worth looking at. Why is your role a 2x partial doctor plus partial vigilante when dessew just gets to be a 1x partial doctor

[Morning Tweet]

I thi nk the key difference is probably that Dessew takes the ingredients to himself whereas you move them

Yours is stronger but also more potential to be unhelpful

[Doctor Drew]

I thi nk the key difference is probably that Dessew takes the ingredients to himself whereas you move them

Yours is stronger but also more potential to be unhelpful

I will say that last night I was mainly trying to protect Norwee and McMenno by taking ingredients from them. I unfortunately can't place them on the shelf, or even take them for myself. And going into the night Dessew was my biggest scum read, so from my perspective they were the right person to give them to.

Also I don't know if I mentioned it before or not, but I can't choose the ingredients that I move around, it is randomly chosen.

[McMenno]

I can confirm that I lost an ingredient at least

[furtiveglance]

It says you are a recipe but you're also something else

Right, I'm also a Neighbouriser

[Dessew]

Oh no, kuribo's quoting Warhammer. You know what that means

[Dessew]

Here's my logic, because I won't wait for Korina anymore.

Stealing and eavesdropping are behaviours a contestant on Masterchef could exhibit if they wanted to win the show. An inspector and a redistributor are people you'd find in the production crew. Point is, "you're a contestant and a thief/eavesdropper" makes sense thematically, while "inspector/redistributor" doesn't.

How does neighbouriser fit into the picture? I don't know. If it's true, then it looks more town than mafia, but either way it's a bit of a stretch. Furtive also might have just made it up.

What I'm 100% certain about is that Drew is mafia. I know I'm a Thief, I know bianco was an Inspector. In this context, when Drew said he was a Redistributor, he might as well have claimed Goon. There's just no other possibility.

@Menno, Korina: what do you think?

Added bonus: there's surely no more than three mafia in the game, so once we lim Drew, confirming furtive's alignment should be trivial.

[Doctor Drew]

Why, as scum, would I claim the scums NK ability?

There is zero logic to scum doing that.

I didn't have to claim when I did, no one forced me, so again..... basically no pressure on me so why would my play as scum be to claim the scum NK ability. Sorry to repeat myself, but make no sense.

McMenno confirmed they lost an ingredient, I said I took from them. Yes objectively speaking there really isn't a 100% confirmation that it was me. But I said I took from them, they said they lost an ingredient, unless you think McMenno and I our buddies.

[Doctor Drew]

Also I posted I took from McMenno before they said they lost an ingredient

Yes this doesn't 100% confirm alignment, or even role, but it would be super lucky to just guess McMenno lost an ingredient if I didn't know that he did ( in this case I took it from them).

So do you think McMenno and I are buddies?

Did you not think things through enough and didn't think how many holes are in your case?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Dessew

[McMenno]

Here's my logic, because I won't wait for Korina anymore.

Stealing and eavesdropping are behaviours a contestant on Masterchef could exhibit if they wanted to win the show. An inspector and a redistributor are people you'd find in the production crew. Point is, "you're a contestant and a thief/eavesdropper" makes sense thematically, while "inspector/redistributor" doesn't.

How does neighbouriser fit into the picture? I don't know. If it's true, then it looks more town than mafia, but either way it's a bit of a stretch. Furtive also might have just made it up.

What I'm 100% certain about is that Drew is mafia. I know I'm a Thief, I know bianco was an Inspector. In this context, when Drew said he was a Redistributor, he might as well have claimed Goon. There's just no other possibility.

@Menno, Korina: what do you think?

Added bonus: there's surely no more than three mafia in the game, so once we lim Drew, confirming furtive's alignment should be trivial.

if you're still married to the fact that scum are flavoured after judges after that bianco flip, I'm not sure what to say. this spec is terrible, sorry.

I'll VOTE: Korina for now, put the pressure on.

[McMenno]

the idea*

[Doctor Drew]

It says you are a recipe but you're also something else

Right, I'm also a Neighbouriser

Why would you wait to neighborize?

[Morning Tweet]

What else would you call a neighbourizer?

[Morning Tweet]

No I don't really think it's you drew but it is really peculiar that you have exactly what scum is supposed be able to do

I will try to figure this out l8r

[Doctor Drew]

No I don't really think it's you drew but it is really peculiar that you have exactly what scum is supposed be able to do

I will try to figure this out l8r

Listen, I get it.

And honestly I think Dessew has the same role as me as scum, I have hinted at it enough. I think I am there to fuck with their night plans, and now that Dessew knows this......is why they have been so aggressively wanting me gone.

Dessew thinks they can essentially bully their way to my elim, but have not realized they are not making any logical sense in regards to my role.

[Doctor Drew]

The role is confirmable, so it'd take a very

special

player, like Menno, to hammer me

can you elaborate on that one chief

This comment was unkind, I apologise. It turns out, I was the most special player all along.

Anyway, at night I take a

random item

from a player. I wouldn't target furtive because he's my top scumread, but for the sake of the argument let's say that he survives today, and I target him. Then at the start of D2 I can say, "furtive, I targeted you", and he can confirm that he lost an ingredient. Alternatively, I could also say, "haha, furtive,

YEAST

, amirite?" if the first one doesn't do the trick. N1 I could pretend with a scumbuddy if I were mafia, but if I change my target for N2, then by D3 I'm 100% confirmed (because, as previously discussed, there's only two mafia), and even before that I'd only have one possible partner.

My role is practically a doctor, but it's been modified for the special NK mechanics.

Also note the bolded, Dessew knows what ingredient they would steal yet at the same time says they take a random item.

Dessew, what was the ingredient you stole from Aureal?

[Aureal]

Drew and Dessew could you kindly knock it off with this foolishness please and thanks? You're not even listening to your own arguments.

I remind you: Korina is lying about what happened with her ingredients, reacted like caught scum to being called on it, and now is doing nothing more than dodging questions and sowing confusion between you. There's not much reason to think there's going to be a third scum so maybe we can save this arguing for after taking out the second?