Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

[Firebringer]

also on a personal thing i see incoming
if klick is scum he is gonna keep me around for a potential mislim
if titus is scum she is going to keep me around because im the fool.

And I think playing the fool is better than the mislim.
So I am team titus.

[Drixx]

I don't like klick fight with Titus.
Titus looks much better in this than Klick.

Is klick still town lean, yeah.
But this is getting ridiculous.

Shea to answer ur earlier question of why i am strong townreading Titus i think she is trying to solve this game with her setup strategy, i think she is trying best to work with town to get the best results for us and i think she believes what she is saying even if i don't understand it all the time. I think scum Titus would be more willing to let town do w/e here instead of fighting for her strat of game. Maybe voice it but not push it so strongly or care about trying to get everyone on her page. It wouldn't be worth it to her to ensure we follow her strategy if she is scum unless she saw a huge benefit of leading us down a really bad path which i don't see where that is.

LMAO.

[Firebringer]

how you doin Drixx

[Ircher]

HOW?

If either flips, gg.

If too many town link, we can link pools together. Scum get forced arguments.

Every scum kill confirms another player as town.

For instance, if Kuribo ever dies, Ircher is conftown.

If PB does, Black is likely conftown.

They then must kill the linked players.

Why does kuribo have to die first for me to be confirmed town? I find this wording to be a bit weird.

[Ircher]

I have almost 0 time to even read this game at this time so I'm just tagging along and will lurk till I have actual time.

Its stupidly convenient how everyone's focus shift on me when I go a bit inactive cause of real life. I'm really busy cause I'm studying PHD and I work and I don't have weekends to spare. like I really shouldn't be playing and only reason I'm playing is cause its team mafia, and it makes me feel bad that I'm not putting in real effort

I'm gonna say this in case a wagon shifts on me that I think the scum were mainly the people avoiding dragon eater and not the ones pushing him cause I still think he played scummy and the way people stayed away from dragon eater. I haven't been reading the game and I'm like what 10 pages behind if not more but I'm not scum. If you wanna form a wagon on me, force each other to explain their scum read on me in detail and not just throw a random wagon so at least if I get elimed you get info out of the wagon itself.

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anyways I saw titus claim I can confirm that my role is not active and a role block has 0 effect on it.

The only reason I said I'm not vt is that no one else claimed to have my role tbh not that its anything special. I already crumbed heavy what I am and it will be irrefutable in future phases when others also have the roles anyway cause its a very rare thing that's used in this game and its obvious when you know what you're looking for.

my role means this game is almost definitely single ball btw.

Who was actively pushing you? Yes, a lot of people don't exactly have town reads on you, but I think that's to be expected when you are lower volume and lower activity. It's the nature of PoE.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't like klick fight with Titus.
Titus looks much better in this than Klick.

Is klick still town lean, yeah.
But this is getting ridiculous.

Shea to answer ur earlier question of why i am strong townreading Titus i think she is trying to solve this game with her setup strategy, i think she is trying best to work with town to get the best results for us and i think she believes what she is saying even if i don't understand it all the time. I think scum Titus would be more willing to let town do w/e here instead of fighting for her strat of game. Maybe voice it but not push it so strongly or care about trying to get everyone on her page. It wouldn't be worth it to her to ensure we follow her strategy if she is scum unless she saw a huge benefit of leading us down a really bad path which i don't see where that is.

I think what she wants us to do is explicitly anti town and her assumptions are all best case scenario for town to the point of being completely implausible. So I very much think your "unless" here is what is happening.

[Thestatusquo]

also on a personal thing i see incoming
if klick is scum he is gonna keep me around for a potential mislim
if titus is scum she is going to keep me around because im the fool.

And I think playing the fool is better than the mislim.
So I am team titus.

you're gunna be NKd to frame me regardless.

[Firebringer]

also on a personal thing i see incoming
if klick is scum he is gonna keep me around for a potential mislim
if titus is scum she is going to keep me around because im the fool.

And I think playing the fool is better than the mislim.
So I am team titus.

you're gunna be NKd to frame me regardless.

Doubtful

[Ircher]

Alisae wants everyone to explain their klick scumread

Also 4273 is very townie post

I would say the majority of it was the interaction with Dunnstral that read really fake. Titus has been looking worse over the past few pages though.

[Pink Ball]

Ircher you've been tippity tapping around Titus's wagon, how about joining it and ending this day

[Ircher]

Klick is town

Votes don't work if Klick and Dunn are town.

1) Give me a reason why Shea turns if Klick town.

2) Give me a reason why Klick solely tunnels if town.

3) Give me a reason why we won't confirm me if Klick is town.

4) Give me a reason Klick isn't dead if Klick is town.

5) Give me a reason why Dunn has no content if Dunn is town.

6) Give me a reason why all mech town townread me yet I'm a wagon.

This is scum saving Klick and Dunn.

3) I don't think Klick is tunneling anyone at this point in the game. They want you to engage.
4) I would not expect Klick to be dead at this point, but I can see the point about the wagon having some resistance.
5) Dunnstral has content.
6) [Citation Needed.]

[Ircher]

Ircher you've been tippity tapping around Titus's wagon, how about joining it and ending this day

Are we ready for the day to end?

[Pink Ball]

Unless you want 20 more pages of Klick vs Titus, I'm pretty sure it's time to end it. I would've ended it earlier if it wasn't for Black not being available on weekends

[Titus]

HOW?

If either flips, gg.

If too many town link, we can link pools together. Scum get forced arguments.

Every scum kill confirms another player as town.

For instance, if Kuribo ever dies, Ircher is conftown.

If PB does, Black is likely conftown.

They then must kill the linked players.

Why does kuribo have to die first for me to be confirmed town? I find this wording to be a bit weird.

Vice versa is also true.

[Titus]

Unless you want 20 more pages of Klick vs Titus, I'm pretty sure it's time to end it. I would've ended it earlier if it wasn't for Black not being available on weekends

Just end on Klick.

Ideally Black would say 1 name.

[Pink Ball]

Ideally Black would say 1 name.

Agreed, but I'm not gonna argue with her, not worth it. Made a beautiful post after 2 days of a back and forth with Jingle and the answer to it is "sorry, I don't want to" lol

[Ircher]

HOW?

If either flips, gg.

If too many town link, we can link pools together. Scum get forced arguments.

Every scum kill confirms another player as town.

For instance, if Kuribo ever dies, Ircher is conftown.

If PB does, Black is likely conftown.

They then must kill the linked players.

Why does kuribo have to die first for me to be confirmed town? I find this wording to be a bit weird.

Vice versa is also true.

That's not the issue I had with your wording.

Also just going to give

preliminary intent to hammer

(assuming my vote would be hammer). I might not actually follow through, but Titus has at least until I'm fully caught up (about 6-7 pages) before I would hammer.

[Titus]

Ideally Black would say 1 name.

Agreed, but I'm not gonna argue with her, not worth it. Made a beautiful post after 2 days of a back and forth with Jingle and the answer to it is "sorry, I don't want to" lol

Frustration felt. I'm half giving up. If I can't lead a horse to drink when alive, what makes me think they will when I am dead.

@Ircher, Then I don't get it.

[Ircher]

Why not

How about he claimed mason?

[Ircher]

Ideally Black would say 1 name.

Agreed, but I'm not gonna argue with her, not worth it. Made a beautiful post after 2 days of a back and forth with Jingle and the answer to it is "sorry, I don't want to" lol

Frustration felt. I'm half giving up. If I can't lead a horse to drink when alive, what makes me think they will when I am dead.

@Ircher, Then I don't get it.

It's the way you're 100% confident we'll flip town but at the same time, it seems like you aren't actually confident that we are both town in the present. Whereas with Pink Ball/Black, you explicitly state "likely" indicating you acknowledge the other possibility however remote it may be.

[Ircher]

@Klick Part 1- Him applies to Fire not Drixx. Please respond properly rather than twisting.

I misinterpreted what you said because it wasn't clear. Please respond properly rather than twisting. Which has essentially been your approach to every single response you've made to me in this day phase, fwiw.

@Part 2 - It's not about specifics. It's the amount.

Ok

How many things did you get wrong in this game that you wouldn't have gotten wrong if you were scum, and which specific things are they
And 

why

 is that the case
What about your scum play means that you wouldn't do that as scum.

You're avoiding the point of most of the questions I ask you.

Literally std confirms jailkeeper.

Scum aren't going to have a block too.

Unless you think StD is my partner, there's no way I am scum.

You getting STD's role card does not in any way impact the likelihood that scum have a blocking ability.

Yes it does. No safe claim.

You're going to have to be more clear! This doesn't mean anything to me

I'm assuming I'm just never going to get a response to these

This is serious? Thought it was grandstanding.

The mods would never give scum a role that forces a CC.

It doesn't force a CC if scum keep quiet about their special power.

[Ircher]

(expired on 2023-05-02 07:34:51).

Ircher
kuribo

Thestatusquo
Pink Ball
Black

GuyInFreezer
Save the Dragons

Dunnstral

Frozen Angel

Drixx
Firebringer

Klick
Titus

[kuribo]

HOW?

If either flips, gg.

If too many town link, we can link pools together. Scum get forced arguments.

Every scum kill confirms another player as town.

For instance, if Kuribo ever dies, Ircher is conftown.

If PB does, Black is likely conftown.

They then must kill the linked players.

Why does kuribo have to die first for me to be confirmed town? I find this wording to be a bit weird.

Hush you don't you dare deny me the sweet release of death

[Titus]

Ideally Black would say 1 name.

Agreed, but I'm not gonna argue with her, not worth it. Made a beautiful post after 2 days of a back and forth with Jingle and the answer to it is "sorry, I don't want to" lol

Frustration felt. I'm half giving up. If I can't lead a horse to drink when alive, what makes me think they will when I am dead.

@Ircher, Then I don't get it.

It's the way you're 100% confident we'll flip town but at the same time, it seems like you aren't actually confident that we are both town in the present. Whereas with Pink Ball/Black, you explicitly state "likely" indicating you acknowledge the other possibility however remote it may be.

? I don't get this.

You and Kuribo are mech aligned and 99999.999% town.

PB and Black might have thereotical doubt on alignments.

High Titus says hello.

[kuribo]

So my problem is that the more I read Klick, the more I feel like I want to town read the intent but a lot of the posts just don't sit right with me. Might be still my tunnel trying to break though.

My problem with Titus is that I don't see the breaking strategy itself as scummy. I do think that it's possible that in her exuberance to try and break the setup that she overlooked key parts. I went back over her breaking strategy and honestly I can't make heads or tails of how it was supposed to confirm or "link" so many people. I do think she sees now why her plan was flawed.

My main problem with Titus though isn't the strategy itself, it's that there are other little nagging things here and there that give me pause in a major way. Maybe even more than Klick.

I talked on day one about my "super secret scumread" and I can now tell you that it was Titus. Unless I have already mentioned it, fucked if I know. But I DID mention it in the lover PT on day one which ircher can confirm (assuming he remembers lol)

My other problem with Titus is that I kinda want her to be scum just because if she's town then I really have to re-evaluate both TSQ and then Klick YET AGAIN and I swear to fucking god if you two are scum and dont kill me tonight I'm gonna be really upset about having to re-evaluate a HUNDRED AND SEVENTY fucking pages. Please let me die. You both fucking owe me.

But I don't think TSQ is scum so that's kind of a moot point.