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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Wed May 03, 2023 11:11 pm

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Gimli replace is probably good tbh
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Wed May 03, 2023 11:12 pm

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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Wed May 03, 2023 11:35 pm

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In post 2947, implosion wrote: mith (2): Gimli, imaginality
Ythan (1): Bellaphant
Menalque (1): Marashu

Not Voting (2): Lady Lambdadelta, Ythan
hey you know what would be very cool if these people did

if they clicked the vote button and then typed "imaginality" i hear all the cool kids are doing it
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 12:08 am

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In post 2949, Menalque wrote:
In post 2946, Bellaphant wrote: @mith, agree their day two posting is much as you describe, but I was specifically talking about re-reading around the wagon switcheroo. Was there something else you wanted to ask me?
I have stuff I wanna ask you, such as: what’s your take on imag now?
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 2:29 am

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In post 2948, Menalque wrote:
In post 2944, imaginality wrote:
In post 2932, Menalque wrote:
In post 2931, imaginality wrote: Even if people want me limmed, put me down as tomorrow's lim and lim someone else today.

You get to lim me either way but this way I get one more chance to protect someone first.
If you’re scum then this is just another way of saying “why not lim another townie before me hey”

If I’m wrong and you’re town then hey, at least we’ve been completely fucked up since d1 and at least this can be a meme game where we limmed a doc on back-to-back days
If I'm scum you still get scum limmed. You still get any results from cop or tracker etc to use D4 onwards (if you lim me tomorrow) that you would have anyway.

The only difference is we also get the extra chance of me protecting someone tonight.

Which you're about to throw away.
We’re not in some schrodinger-esque world where you’re both town and scum simultaneously until we flip you. Yes, if you’re town then we maybe lose a protect tonight. But if you’re scum, and I think you are, then we gain nothing from waiting

This cannot just be me right, this is a bizarre line of argument to use?
In post 2945, imaginality wrote: Hey chatgpt, tell me who to vote in mafia game when everyone seems suspicious
Lol what? How is this your take at this point in D2, “everyone seems suspicious”? Like even the people who I completely disagree with (like ali up to now) have had a clear idea of the game and of where people are — how, as someone who has been actively playing as D1, do you not have a stronger sense of where you’d like to go? I am confuse
You exactly are in a Schrödinger-esque world and if you're not accounting for that in your risk reward calculations then you're either not playing optimally or don't care.

I do agree if you're highly sure I'm scum then the perceived chance of throwing away a doc protect is lower for you and so might not sway your decision but it should at least be considered rather than dismissed completely.

As for why I find everyone suspicious - that was an exaggeration, I don't literally scumread everyone. But I am concerned I can only townbin one person:

Bella: made sense to me D1 and today too (also why I haven't really commented much on you Bella, there's not much to say). Happy to townbin

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Alisae: felt genuinely hunting D1, her shift to suspecting me D2 feels fair (this definitely isn't me playing at my sharpest, for various reasons). Caveat is I feel she can probably be very smart as scum so can't 100% townbin her

Marashu: probably town? Caveat is mainly just how LLD strongly defended Marashu to stop that wagon and then next three wagons were on town. So if LLD scum then Marashu scum seems a possibility

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Gimli: didn't like that he suggested Cephrir flashwagon yesterday

Ythan: not suspicious as such but the D1 lurking fits with scum happy all the wagons were on town so I don't feel like I can townbin

Datisi: maybe his scumread on me is genuine but I feel wary of him

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Menalque: timing of contributions feels a bit suspicious and also I feel could have hidden agenda

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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 2:33 am

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I keep seeing various possible scumteams. I would like to be able to be surer about who's scum. Like famous last words of "after I flip town, lim X, Y and Z!" but that is proving pretty tricky.

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Something useful for me to ask: for those of you scumreading me (hello everyone) who do you see me as buddied with?

(I feel like maybe getting people's thoughts about that on record might be useful for analysing after my townflip)
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 2:40 am

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Yeah I'm down to kill the slot that can write paragraphs about why certain slots are town. Ut only 2 words about why I am scum as if it covers anything.

Also it's my birthday! I'm in a lot of pain! Expect me to remain uhhh unavailable >.>
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 2:43 am

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In post 2956, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Yeah I'm down to kill the slot that can write paragraphs about why certain slots are town. Ut only 2 words about why I am scum as if it covers anything.

Also it's my birthday! I'm in a lot of pain! Expect me to remain uhhh unavailable >.>
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 3:24 am

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Happy birthday!
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 4:40 am

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Ythan, who's scum?
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 4:48 am

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Happy birthday LLD.

If you're as down to kill me as you say you are, put a vote on me so others can hold you to account for it after I flip town.

If you think me posting two words about you just now is lazy, consider that I went into plenty more detail D1 but it got mostly ignored or dismissed. I'm not trying to get you limmed today, and have minus capacity for detailed content this week for RL reasons.

If miraculously I'm still alive D3 I'll look your way again.

For today I think it should be mith.

Also, i just want to note, if I were scum here I'd have jumped on the Ythan wagon rather than try to argue against it.

"But Ythan's your buddy so that's why you didn't."

Me arguing against the wagon would look pretty bad for Ythan when I flip scum then wouldn't it? Better to help push the wagon through. Plus I bet scum in slot 1 would choose vengeful so we'd be planning for Ythan to be limmed at some point so we can use it.

Anyhow. Moot point.
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 4:51 am

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In post 2959, Bellaphant wrote: Ythan, who's scum?
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 5:34 am

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Ace, y?

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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:27 am

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Titus said you look partnered with Datisi, didn't like an FoS from you at lld at some point (I'll check after I dump this). Xof disagrees with whoever posted 1725 that said you're town but didn't say why. I'll ask for more because Titus seemed pretty confident.
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:44 am

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Ythan, thoughts on imaginality D2?
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:44 am

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Titus thinks datisi is scum, why?
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:47 am

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I'm not sure which post that was specifically but something you said on the 18th.
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:49 am

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Partnered with datisi? I'd really love to hear more of that, considering we've spent most of the game vaguely disagreeing?
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:50 am

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In post 2965, Menalque wrote: Titus thinks datisi is scum, why?
Asking for elaboration, it may just be that.
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:51 am

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Also, surprised Titus knows anything about my scum meta?
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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:52 am

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this is like the second time titus accused me of being partnered with someone, and considering her historical read of me hasn't been great afaik, i would like to know more
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 6:59 am

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She says that read is outdated.
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 7:00 am

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(I just searched your name in our server and dumped everything on you regardless of timestamp)
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 7:06 am

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Lld, Titus asks which of the following Titi you wish to see: moonlogic, normal, data, or angry
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2023 7:13 am

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Additional option: agreeable

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