Mini Normal 2300: THIS GAME HAS A VIG [game over]

[Skygazer]

VC 2.04

Malakittens

(2): Venmar, patchwork

Greeting

(2): bristep123, Invisibility

Not Known 15

(1): Greeting

Venmar

(1): Not Known 15

Not Voting

(3): Malakittens, geraintm, Black

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to put a player on the blocking chop. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-05-16 09:40:00).

[Venmar]

The t3 read list applies to them as well but it was the combination of ven's post and greetings reply which pinged me rather than just gen’s post in isolation. T3’s reads in isolation i can’t wholly get behind given our last game when he vigged town players 3 nights in a row.

Though you can understand my confusion since in posts like this you emphasize that it's the combination of our posts that pinged you rather than either one in isolation so I'd like you to explain why they're scummy together rather than just by themselves if you don't think we're a scumteam?

So I’m not referring to your post as scummy. You speculated that greeting and mala could be scummy based on T3’s list, I’ve clarified here that the reason why I have got a ping from greeting was due to his reaction to your post not because you pinged him in yours - otherwise it would be inconsistent for me to sus him and not mala.

Why say my post pinged you in #590 then?

[bristep123]

Maybe badly worded in my part. The posts as a pair pinged my radar towards greeting because of their reaction to your post. The posts in isolation did not both ping my radar separately.

[Venmar]

Okay, I'm mostly happy with Bris' explanation tbh

Honestly I kind of think both scum are in this group; {Malakitten, Greeting, Black, NK15}

Invisibility and Patchwork feel like town to me, I can kind of vibe with Bris and Gera might be town just by PoE of me scumreading others more.

[Malakittens]

I was trying to see in regards to T3 why he potentially got killed.

His two main scumreads were between {Greeting/Me} & had a vote on Vemar.

Ngl I could potentially see scum between {greeting/venmar}.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: venmar

[Malakittens]

I think the coinvent 180 flip on me feels odd. esp when venmar was "townreading" me all D1, but noticed when there is support for me is there to start pushing me

[Malakittens]

i'm not really understanding the gera town reads.
I'm not at all seeing the shining town there.
and if i recall correctly gera is very lurky as scum.

[Black]

like iirc no one scumreads me as of right now
anyways bri i have a question for you. what's your read on mala, and why?

I don't townread you. I think you could definitely be scum

Any thoughts on Mala, Greeting, whats happened last two pages, etc?

I haven't read the last few pages in detail but I didn't like Greeting putting NK at e-1

Mala is in my blind spot. What should I look at regarding her?

[Venmar]

I think the coinvent 180 flip on me feels odd. esp when venmar was "townreading" me all D1, but noticed when there is support for me is there to start pushing me

This would make sense if it was true but I'm like 99% sure nobody was talking about you today until I decided to pivot on you and I could've just piled on NK15. I kickstarted the discussion on you so there's nothing to the idea that I read the room and saw support to push you lol.

Bad reaction by Mala imo.

[Venmar]

like iirc no one scumreads me as of right now
anyways bri i have a question for you. what's your read on mala, and why?

I don't townread you. I think you could definitely be scum

Any thoughts on Mala, Greeting, whats happened last two pages, etc?

I haven't read the last few pages in detail but I didn't like Greeting putting NK at e-1

Mala is in my blind spot. What should I look at regarding her?

She hasn't really done anything all game, was one of T3's main scumreads, and tbh has just been present but not contributory and my gut changed places on her. Don't think her reaction to the pressure so far has been great either tbh.

What was your original read on her in D1?

[Malakittens]

Why would I kill someone who was scum reading me?

You know damn right that I wouldn’t do that.

[Black]

What was your original read on her in D1?

She's been in my blind spot the whole game. All I remember is NK putting her at e-1 on like page 6 or something and thinking that was pretty scummy of NK

All I see is Venmar/patches voting together pretty much this entire game. If this is the pair I'm going to lol

[Venmar]

Why would I kill someone who was scum reading me?

You know damn right that I wouldn’t do that.

Why would I know that?

[Venmar]

All I see is Venmar/patches voting together pretty much this entire game. If this is the pair I'm going to lol

Lol

[patchwork]

All I see is Venmar/patches voting together pretty much this entire game. If this is the pair I'm going to lol

wait out of curiosity where have we voted together except on mala

[patchwork]

read through the thread, i'd say bri is a hesitant townread for now. i like this better than their d1 play

[Black]

You we're on the Umlaut wagon together D1 which just so happened to be the Venmar counterwagon. You two also tried to shade me at the same time but you never voted me like Venmar did

I also find it a little weird how you didn't vote until the game was almost 500 posts long. Normally you get into it quicker it think

Spoiler: Venmar/Patch

VC 1.15

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(4): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(1): Malakittens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.16 (unchanged)

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(4): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(1): Malakittens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.17

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(5): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.18

Umlaut

(5): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens

Venmar

(4): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Invisibility

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.19

Umlaut

(6): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens, Not Known 15

Venmar

(3): bristep123, Umlaut, T3

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Invisibility

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

Mod notes: brb killing Umlaut

VC 2.03

Not Known 15

(2): Invisibility, Greeting

Malakittens

(2): Venmar, patchwork

Venmar

(1): Not Known 15

Greeting

(1): bristep123

Not Voting

(3): Malakittens, geraintm, Black

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to put a player on the blocking chop. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-05-16 09:40:00).

VC 2.04

Malakittens

(2): Venmar, patchwork

Greeting

(2): bristep123, Invisibility

Not Known 15

(1): Greeting

Venmar

(1): Not Known 15

Not Voting

(3): Malakittens, geraintm, Black

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to put a player on the blocking chop. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-05-16 09:40:00).

I feel like scum normally try to avoid this type of stuff but if it's to keep Venmar alive I can kinda see it. There's equity here

[patchwork]

reads in an attempt at towniest to scummiest
town
invis
bri / venmar
black / mala
null
gerain
nk
greeting
scum

[patchwork]

got ninja'd by black, will repsond now

[Malakittens]

So patch if I’m up there on the town list why are you voting me

[Black]

I think that's a good point mala. Normally you want to pressure a SR

And what was up with this? You voted your top SR on accident and the switched it to mala?

VOTE: Greeting

wait wrong person VOTE: Mala

[patchwork]

hi i'm back sorry

[Malakittens]

I think that's a good point mala. Normally you want to pressure a SR

And what was up with this? You voted your top SR on accident and the switched it to mala?

VOTE: Greeting

wait wrong person VOTE: Mala

GOTTA HAVE A SHARP MIND

[Venmar]

You we're on the Umlaut wagon together D1 which just so happened to be the Venmar counterwagon. You two also tried to shade me at the same time but you never voted me like Venmar did

I also find it a little weird how you didn't vote until the game was almost 500 posts long. Normally you get into it quicker it think

Spoiler: Venmar/Patch

VC 1.15

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(4): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(1): Malakittens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.16 (unchanged)

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(4): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(1): Malakittens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.17

Venmar

(5): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15, geraintm

Umlaut

(5): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.18

Umlaut

(5): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens

Venmar

(4): bristep123, Umlaut, T3, Not Known 15

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Invisibility

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

VC 1.19

Umlaut

(6): Greeting, Black, Venmar, patchwork, Malakittens, Not Known 15

Venmar

(3): bristep123, Umlaut, T3

Not Known 15

(1): Invisibility

Invisibility

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(0):

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to accidentally disassemble a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-09 12:20:00).

Mod notes: brb killing Umlaut

VC 2.03

Not Known 15

(2): Invisibility, Greeting

Malakittens

(2): Venmar, patchwork

Venmar

(1): Not Known 15

Greeting

(1): bristep123

Not Voting

(3): Malakittens, geraintm, Black

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to put a player on the blocking chop. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-05-16 09:40:00).

VC 2.04

Malakittens

(2): Venmar, patchwork

Greeting

(2): bristep123, Invisibility

Not Known 15

(1): Greeting

Venmar

(1): Not Known 15

Not Voting

(3): Malakittens, geraintm, Black

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to put a player on the blocking chop. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-05-16 09:40:00).

I feel like scum normally try to avoid this type of stuff but if it's to keep Venmar alive I can kinda see it. There's equity here

Hi there, seeing as how I know I am town, if one of me or Patch is scum its Patch. I apologize for the confusion, I hope this helps clear it up.