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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

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In post 37, usesPython wrote:
In post 34, Aureal wrote: So tell me, did you notice that Pooky was the big hood elimination in both those games where town won by flipping him?
I did! Only read Micro 1062 but in that game the small hood scum was pretty much immediately outed and Pooky was a lowposting consensus lim. Also thanks for accidentally reminding me about something that was mentioned in the scum chat in that game, if there's small hood off wagon then don't put people at E-1 if you're not willing to accept the possibility that off-wagon small hood scum quickhammer

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Hmmmmmmm. I did go and read some of that game now, I'll have to think about the matter some more. There's no Pooky in this game. :o
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:30 am

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In post 46, usesPython wrote: half-tinfoil mode: this was a placeholder hood and both scum forgot to submit actual hoods due to sudden irl happenings

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Huh. This is weird. I... don't think the mod would handle unsubmitted hoods like this though. For one, the list would already have to be ordered in a way where the scum are split apart properly, not both in the bottom five or top three.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:43 am

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In post 51, Aureal wrote:
In post 46, usesPython wrote: half-tinfoil mode: this was a placeholder hood and both scum forgot to submit actual hoods due to sudden irl happenings

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Huh. This is weird. I... don't think the mod would handle unsubmitted hoods like this though. For one, the list would already have to be ordered in a way where the scum are split apart properly, not both in the bottom five or top three.
I'm saying scum put the hoods in order of signups just have something and then didn't/couldn't update it for the actual hoods they wanted. If scum didn't submit any hood at all then the hoods would be completely randomized

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:48 am

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Yeah, but those wouldn't be valid hood picks at all if the scum weren't distributed appropriately between them.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:49 am

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Well yeah but scum being distributed appropriately was a given since the game started with this hood combo.

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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 11:17 am

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Invis was the first one to notice that the hoods were in list order, right? You didn't notice it until then?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 11:18 am

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Nope, I was running under the assumption that scum would do the fun thing and pick hoods instead of letting it rand

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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 11:41 am

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In post 46, usesPython wrote: half-tinfoil mode: this was a placeholder hood and both scum forgot to submit actual hoods due to sudden irl happenings

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This is such a random and weird prediction?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 11:41 am

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In post 41, Invisibility wrote: Image

boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds
Okay so I should read first lol
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 12:08 pm

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I feel like I missed RVS already
In post 41, Invisibility wrote: boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds
Seems right to me, randomized or not there's still one scum per hood.
VOTE: yesiree I don't like that you sheeped python with the vote on invisibility.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 12:25 pm

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In post 30, Aureal wrote: Ugh, I have to actually solve you again. VOTE: usesPython
Was this vote random or not?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 12:36 pm

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In post 56, usesPython wrote: Nope, I was running under the assumption that scum would do the fun thing and pick hoods instead of letting it rand

-A

In 45 you said they made it obvious, though. I guess it wasn't actually that obvious?

In post 59, Merlyn wrote: I feel like I missed RVS already
In post 41, Invisibility wrote: boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds
Seems right to me, randomized or not there's still one scum per hood.
VOTE: yesiree I don't like that you sheeped python with the vote on invisibility.
Why don't you like it?

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In post 30, Aureal wrote: Ugh, I have to actually solve you again. VOTE: usesPython
Was this vote random or not?
Not.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 12:44 pm

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In post 61, Aureal wrote:
In post 56, usesPython wrote: Nope, I was running under the assumption that scum would do the fun thing and pick hoods instead of letting it rand

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In 45 you said they made it obvious, though. I guess it wasn't actually that obvious?
Aureal did you roll scum without me? :cry:

I don't think it's possible to make it any more obvious the hoods were randed, I missed it the first time around because I checked the hood composition from my hood pm and didn't check the playerlist

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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 12:51 pm

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And yet despite it being so obvious, nobody mentioned it until Invisibility did. It was clearly intentional, so I'm left to ponder whether scum wanted to take a certain approach to that fact.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 3:41 pm

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In post 62, usesPython wrote: Aureal did you roll scum without me?
What makes you even suspect this?
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 3:47 pm

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(3): usesPython, BurgerParty, yessiree
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 4:12 pm

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In post 61, Aureal wrote: In post 59, Merlyn wrote:
I feel like I missed RVS already
In post 41, Invisibility wrote:
boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds
Seems right to me, randomized or not there's still one scum per hood.
VOTE: yesiree I don't like that you sheeped python with the vote on invisibility.
Why don't you like it?
Could be an early attempt to discredit one person in the small hood in particular.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 4:17 pm

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How does sheeping someone's vote discredit the person being voted?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 9:01 pm

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In post 64, ActionDan wrote:
In post 62, usesPython wrote: Aureal did you roll scum without me?
What makes you even suspect this?
Pre- the questions felt really nitpicky and I didn't see where she was going with it. After the clarification it's fine but it felt more like she was looking for a gotcha instead of sorting

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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 12:53 am

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In post 40, Invisibility wrote: wait why are the neighborhoods just order of signups? I think scum tried to make neighborhoods with an unbiased mechanism so that we couldn't glean anything from them LOL
LOL what the HECK
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 1:01 am

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In post 68, usesPython wrote:
In post 64, ActionDan wrote:
In post 62, usesPython wrote: Aureal did you roll scum without me?
What makes you even suspect this?
Pre- the questions felt really nitpicky and I didn't see where she was going with it. After the clarification it's fine but it felt more like she was looking for a gotcha instead of sorting

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I think pre 63 you well deserved to be questioned. Even now your reason to townread yessiree strikes me as contrived.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 1:03 am

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In post 45, usesPython wrote:
In post 44, Invisibility wrote: oh true true. They must've decided that the order was acceptable enough over random neighborhoods so there's still probably stuff to glean from that. Not that I'll do much gleaning cuz I don't like doing meta (major player flaw. I just find it boring)
No I mean why did scum specifically make it obvious that they let the hoods rand instead of letting it rand and letting people see AI hood choices where there are none

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maybe it wasn't that obvious since no one noticed it straight away, but the choice seems more intentional than not
it's intentionally done to make it seem... not intentional? it could be specifically done to deny info behind neighborhood choices
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 1:07 am

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In post 48, Aureal wrote:
In post 14, usesPython wrote:
In post 12, yessiree wrote: really? why don't you think id do that?
Then you kinda started lurking a bit and let town cannibalize themselves, if you put me us the small hood and didn't predict me POEing Invisibility as the small hood scum you'd have to be able to deal with a possible early 1v1 with me and I'm not sure you'd want to deal with that.

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tbf I did kinda encourage yes to keep it low-key rather than stir the game up again and possibly get us more attention. And I'm really not too sure how you get the idea that he would expect a big active 1v1 from you because of what he expected your towngame to be before finding out it was your scumgame. Obviously he probably won't expect you to lurk as town after seeing how hyper-posty you were there, but that's just a you in general thing not you as town.
In post 49, usesPython wrote:
In post 48, Aureal wrote: tbf I did kinda encourage yes to keep it low-key rather than stir the game up again and possibly get us more attention. And I'm really not too sure how you get the idea that he would expect a big active 1v1 from you because of what he expected your towngame to be before finding out it was your scumgame. Obviously he probably won't expect you to lurk as town after seeing how hyper-posty you were there, but that's just a you in general thing not you as town.
Me getting into 1v1's is playstyle not anything specific to my alignment and my point was that if I can be that townie as scum then it's risky for me to be put in the small hood with him. And anyways that was before it was pointed out that scum let the hoods rand

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i'm acknowledging this but i wont comment on anything more in light of recent revelations
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 1:14 am

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In post 59, Merlyn wrote: I feel like I missed RVS already
In post 41, Invisibility wrote: boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds
Seems right to me, randomized or not there's still one scum per hood.
VOTE: yesiree I don't like that you sheeped python with the vote on invisibility.
this feels a bit forced for a rvs vote? are you scumreading me based on that vote alone or are you just happy to vote in the small hood?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue May 09, 2023 1:15 am

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In post 71, yessiree wrote:
maybe it wasn't that obvious since no one noticed it straight away, but the choice seems more intentional than not
it's intentionally done to make it seem... not intentional? it could be specifically done to deny info behind neighborhood choices
The timer for picking hoods hasn't even run out yet, it was probably done by someone who either couldn't care less, or someone who doesn't know the playerlist very well so the choice doesn't matter to them.
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