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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:15 pm

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The only issue I have is Alianna not claiming her targets until after I and Flippy claimed ours.

And somewhat of the same problem with Flippy as well.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:20 pm

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alianna softed one of her results at the very least when she mentioned that the watcher-enabler ninja was designed to troll her
hinting that she did get trolled and targeted flavor leaf night 2

i have not looked to see if she softed her night 1 target though-
wait what was aliannas reaction during day 2 during the whole flavor leaf thing cause that would have been a good time to soft that result and i remember alianna responding to flavor leafs claim of targeting you
let me look
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:22 pm

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I didn't exactly breadcrumb, but there are a couple things in my ISO that can be explained by my role.
Like my weird Enchant progression. was only part of it.
When I saw Enchant claim to have visited Dr. Drew, I knew they didn't, so I got a little overexcited that I might have a guilty XD. That is why I cared about whether their claim was real (even though it pretty clearly wasn't in hindsight) and why I made remarks like .
It's also why I asked specifically for flippy's progression on Dr. Drew - I wanted to see if I could get insight into what role he was and maybe use it later.
Idk how to play PR though lol.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:22 pm

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*and by real, I meant serious
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:23 pm

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I also said "among other things" in - that's the other thing.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:23 pm

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bristep123 (1):
Theta Alpine ()

Not Voting (6):
Alianna, bristep123, Doctor Drew, Emperor flippyNips, redFF, Deltabreedy ()


With 7 alive, it takes 4 for an execution.


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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:24 pm

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actually

i fully believe alianna now
odd that they chose not to counter claim flavor leaf but their stance against flavor that i noticed when i had my suspicions about alianna day 3 make sense now

so it is between red | flippy | bristep if i am correct that doctor drew has the lazy modifier
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:39 pm

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like i only just realized that flavor leaf claimed watcher and alianna has also claimed watcher
that interaction really should have clued me in on her being town even if both of my other theories are wrong
though it actually makes sense there was not a counter claim since alianna also saw the other action flavor leaf preformed

anyways yeah
town has at worst a two out of three deal i think

based on play i would say go flippy then bristep
based on my mech spec i would say bristep then flippy
either way i think we just win unless red pulled a very bold move as scum


but really scum had both unstoppable and a jailkeeper enabler and the only protective or roleblocker claimed is jailkeeper so unless there is serious bait then
it is really just bristep and flippy unless doctor drew does not actually have the lazy modifier
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:45 pm

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Setup is this if all the PRs are trueclaiming. Hmm.

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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:48 pm

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VOTE: bristep123
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:50 pm

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also realizing now that enchant had to claim when flavor leaf claimed watcher the way he did

cause hu tao was a watcher-enabler and ninja
scum basically knew that town had a watcher somewhere

so oof that gambit put them in a really bad spot
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 12:55 pm

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In post 984, Alianna wrote: VOTE: bristep123
Only player here without any degree of confirmation.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:02 pm

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In post 985, Theta Alpine wrote: also realizing now that enchant had to claim when flavor leaf claimed watcher the way he did

cause hu tao was a watcher-enabler and ninja
scum basically knew that town had a watcher somewhere

so oof that gambit put them in a really bad spot
I see what you mean, especially since I didn't CC there.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:03 pm

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I hate end game paranoia lol

But whatevs

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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:04 pm

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so let me boil it down to this

right now we have to make a pool of two players that has the group scum in it and if we do that successfully we win guaranteed
we have five choices but
flippy is the scummiest player right now so they just go into that pool regardless
doctor drew is the only claimed pr that makes sense to even have the lazy modifier and thus is almost certainly town
alianna had town interactions in regards to their role that make me think they were not scum doing a very bold gambit

that leaves two players for the last slot in the pool
red or bristep
both of them would have had to pull a very bold move if they were scum
but bristep makes the most sense to me as scum
group scum had every reason to believe enchant was caught on day 2 and thus probably both hopped onto the wagon
and then day 3 it was likely obvious that one of them would get caught due to well
the argument that scum probably bussed enchant was going to come up sooner or later
though it came up first when i brought up the possibility of there being a situation where neither scum bussed
that situation is the only part that currently gives me pause about bristep and flippy being the winning lims
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:11 pm

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i mean
saying that it would probably make sense to elim flippy today

but i honestly just do not think they are scum they just are the scumiest claimed pr
i fully believe the last group scum is bristep
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:18 pm

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I think we're good to hammer.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:18 pm

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:18 pm

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that is e-1 though yeah
just waiting for someone else to show up and hammer

in the unlikely event we have a tomorrow whoever has lazy should claim and then you all can figure out who among the rest is the last group scum

i am hopeful i actually get another game where i survive to the end though so
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm

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In post 991, Alianna wrote: I think we're good to hammer.
In post 992, Alianna wrote: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Ironically we need an Enchant type right about now heh.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:31 pm

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i mean if i am correct we have to wait for flippy or red to show up
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:35 pm

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i mean unless bristep feels like self-hammering but
if i am correct about the game then neither bristep or delta will be the hammer since the traitor would also be game throwing to vote the last group scum in this state

unfortunately that means we have to wait for either red or flippy to show up and vote
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:36 pm

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In post 994, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 991, Alianna wrote: I think we're good to hammer.
In post 992, Alianna wrote: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Ironically we need an Enchant type right about now heh.
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:40 pm

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In post 534, Alianna wrote:Ghost of Enchant
In post 536, Alianna wrote: Ghost of Enchant
Maybe one more will summon them.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu May 11, 2023 1:42 pm

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Ghost of Enchant...
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