TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

[Bellaphant]

??

[Bellaphant]

Is the sexy m and m a good thing?

[Alisae]

If JJH is town and Mith is scum we've lost this game already, Ali.

It would recuire SPECIFICALLY

Datisi/Ythan/Mith to be the scum team.


Ythan to fake claim cop.

Datisi to confirm Ascetic status.

Mith to be scum to keep our vig chances at 0.

You know, LLD put it so so eloquently.

[Alisae]

Is the sexy m and m a good thing?

Yes

[jjh927]

Is the sexy m and m a good thing?

I think this is a funnier question out of context

[Alisae]

Another question for Klick Bella, what does Klick think about Titus saying that I am "flailing." I find this comment about my play to too heartless to come from town.

[Bellaphant]

TBf my read in you is junk rn, I've gone back and forth like hourly, but I'll ask klick.

[Bellaphant]

Can u talk to me about voting rad?

[Alisae]

Can u talk to me about voting rad?

What about it?

[Bellaphant]

Your thoughts process up to the vote

[mith]

This is for the people who think I'm Andante's teammate

Bellaphant - votes staeg
Datisi - votes staeg
Lady Lambdadelta - votes staeg
Menalque - votes staeg
mith - votes staeg
Ythan - votes staeg

You can't actually believe this is a good argument, right? You can't be scum with Andante because the third scum would always vote right along with you?

LLD, you are more familiar with Ali's play: is there any world where she's town? Is this how she tries to solve a game? (From my point of view, this is the sort of associative manipulation I did in my last scum game, only not at all subtle. I guess she doesn't have to be subtle if she thinks there is any chance of getting a mislim on me and thinks I shoot her tonight otherwise.)

[Alisae]

Your thoughts process up to the vote

When staeg fell apart and was no longer an option I moved to Imaginality because i thought maybe people would go for that over rad but when lld was saying that limming rad always correct I went for hammer because that was just likely the elimination

[Alisae]

This is for the people who think I'm Andante's teammate

Bellaphant - votes staeg
Datisi - votes staeg
Lady Lambdadelta - votes staeg
Menalque - votes staeg
mith - votes staeg
Ythan - votes staeg

You can't actually believe this is a good argument, right? You can't be scum with Andante because the third scum would always vote right along with you?

LLD, you are more familiar with Ali's play: is there any world where she's town? Is this how she tries to solve a game? (From my point of view, this is the sort of associative manipulation I did in my last scum game, only not at all subtle. I guess she doesn't have to be subtle if she thinks there is any chance of getting a mislim on me and thinks I shoot her tonight otherwise.)

Yes
I mean ur mafia so ur job is to discredit what I say and I’m the person who’s actually trying to look and break down teams so….

[Alisae]

Dumbing that down to “you can’t think that the 3rd wolf would always vote with u” is an excellent way to misrepresent me

[Alisae]

How people not scumread this player?
Like why the fuck am I shooting staeg if I can just pool all of my resources and vote them. I pointed this out in one of my posts where I was breaking down potential teams.

4035 is just blatantly misrepresenting what I’m saying like what by dumbing it down

Like lmfao

[mith]

Dumbing that down to “you can’t think that the 3rd wolf would always vote with u” is an excellent way to misrepresent me

Dumbing what down? Misrepresenting what? You literally posted a list of every other player in the game with the claim that they vote Staeg as the 3rd. (Like, anyone else want to chime in on this? Am I missing something nuanced in that post?)

As far as "discrediting" what you say, I mean ur mafia so of course I'm going to discredit what you say.

For all your talk about the Staeg wagon, you haven't given a shred of analysis of why your supposed solve doesn't push the Staeg wagon over the top. You're just flooding the zone with claims that X player would vote Staeg if XYZ were the team. Maybe this is coming from a place of frustration that your team didn't come through and hammer that wagon?

[Alisae]

Frustration lmfao ya cuz my team would work against me ya sure bro

Talking to u is ducking pointless and ur just going to construct everything I say as wolfy so…

[mith]

Dumbing what down? Misrepresenting what? You literally posted a list of every other player in the game with the claim that they vote Staeg as the 3rd. (Like, anyone else want to chime in on this? Am I missing something nuanced in that post?)

[Alisae]

Dumbing what down? Misrepresenting what? You literally posted a list of every other player in the game with the claim that they vote Staeg as the 3rd. (Like, anyone else want to chime in on this? Am I missing something nuanced in that post?)

[Bellaphant]

Alisae, no shade, but do you really think all three scum would be on that day one wagon?

[Alisae]

Alisae, no shade, but do you really think all three scum would be on that day one wagon?

If I called for it yes, especially if I think staeg is a cop. Klick was w/ me in demon slayer, they’re a witness.

[Ythan]

This is for the people who think I'm Andante's teammate

Bellaphant - votes staeg
Datisi - votes staeg
Lady Lambdadelta - votes staeg
Menalque - votes staeg
mith - votes staeg
Ythan - votes staeg

I never voted for Staeg, what are you trying to say here?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is for the people who think I'm Andante's teammate

Bellaphant - votes staeg
Datisi - votes staeg
Lady Lambdadelta - votes staeg
Menalque - votes staeg
mith - votes staeg
Ythan - votes staeg

You can't actually believe this is a good argument, right? You can't be scum with Andante because the third scum would always vote right along with you?

LLD, you are more familiar with Ali's play: is there any world where she's town? Is this how she tries to solve a game? (From my point of view, this is the sort of associative manipulation I did in my last scum game, only not at all subtle. I guess she doesn't have to be subtle if she thinks there is any chance of getting a mislim on me and thinks I shoot her tonight otherwise.)

She can be town a LOT here. Especially because she has committed her vote to voting with me. If she hems and haws about it and doesn't vote with me today?

Shoot her in the fucking face.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but if she votes with me, shoot elsewhere.

[mith]

She's apparently trying to say she can't be scum because if she were Staeg would definitely have been limmed D1. Which of course ignores the possibility that all three scum were already on the wagon, with Bella eventually unvoting after no hammer, and the possibility that some other partner might have wanted to not put all their eggs in Staeg's basket.

It also is completely at odds with her supposed "solve" of the game, none of whom were ever on Staeg. Apparently, all of us individually would automatically jump at the opportunity to have all scum on Staeg if we were parterned with Ali/jjh, but none of us would throw the last necessary vote on an otherwise all town wagon if we were scum together? But then we would shoot Staeg?

She has had a tendency most of this game to throw vague accusations my way (vibes or "slimy" or powerwolf or misrepresenting) that she can't actually back up when questioned (read our D2 interaction, starting from her 2739 and ending with "talking feels pointless..." / "seems like I can't talk myself out of a paper bag..." in 2784), instead just reiterating them over and over in hopes that it wears everyone else down? Except when she's following me on town wagons, of course.

Ali's voting history:

Day 1
Gimli
imaginality
Marashu
Datisi
Marashu
Staeg
Gimli (1117 re: 1114 "like that post justs spits in my fucking face it's gross"; unvotes in 1312 "I slept on it and I think I overreacted")
Rad
Rad (again after unvoting)
imaginality (1527 "I feel like Imaginality is a super safe elimination and I'm unsure on if I would want to run anyone else up.", 1530 "You wanna run someone else up to have them claim and give out more information?"")
Staeg (hits E-1 with Ali, Bella, Gimli, and three town)
imaginality (this switch doesn't fit at all with her earlier Staeg-scum-but-not-bussing-imaginality; in fact, when she votes, Staeg is the only player left on imaginality, with 5 on Rad and 4 counting Ali on Staeg)
Rad (hammer)

Day 2
Gimli
mith
Ythan
imaginality (2938 "maybe mith is town and this guy is just a wolf lmfao", 3051 "imaginality + adanante + ythan = game", Bella's 3061 "Thoughts on just limming andante?", 3062 "I would rather kill mith", 3063 "Imaginality is the anchor read for me right now", 3064 "at least Andante if we leave her alive will just openwolf and spew I'm honestly happy to just let her play. It's not like she's hard to read")

Day 3
jjh (briefly, eventually unvotes)

I kinda lost count of how many times she has "solved" the game.