TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

[Datisi]

bella, can you give me a tl;dr on how your read on me progressed in this day phase?

[mith]

You can look at me and see I'm aesthetic

that is correct, he hooded me n1 and i went for RB (he first said he didn't wanna claim that lmfao)

Why RB?

[mith]

it was actually ausuka that first had that idea on n2 - because it's around that time that both mena and i were talking about (1) we agree that a bulletproof rather than cop would be a scumclaim, (2) that ythan's slot was likely the cop/bp bracket

Also, can you/Mena confirm whether this response was accurate? Your team suggested the Ythan target?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i hate this game so fucking much

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i feel like the sole bastion of sanity in a sea of lunacy

[Datisi]

that is correct, he hooded me n1 and i went for RB (he first said he didn't wanna claim that lmfao)

Why RB?

the short answer is i wanted to make big brain plays

the long answer is i once saw s_s pick RB as town and help wreck the game with it, and i've historically had poor luck as a town RB and wanted to try to make up for it

it was actually ausuka that first had that idea on n2 - because it's around that time that both mena and i were talking about (1) we agree that a bulletproof rather than cop would be a scumclaim, (2) that ythan's slot was likely the cop/bp bracket

Also, can you/Mena confirm whether this response was accurate? Your team suggested the Ythan target?

that is true, my team was the one to suggest it first

[mith]

Two more questions, @Datisi:

If jjh is scum, how does that affect your read of Mena? If Ythan is scum, how does that affect your read of Mena?

Mith asked me ages ago about being shit at mech. Actually, @mith, you didn't really follow up on this?

I had forgotten I even asked this (well, I asked whether you rely on mech). Don't have any follow-up, your response was reasonable.

i feel like the sole bastion of sanity in a sea of lunacy

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I have a hard time seeing a world where Alisae is town at this point; the vote for me seals that. I'm having an even harder time seeing a world where jjh is town and hasn't already voted for Ythan.

@Mena and Ythan, I would still like your thoughts on who I shoot tonight. Right now, I am shooting Alisae if jjh flips scum.

VOTE: jjh927

[jjh927]

Why does whether or not I have voted for Ythan change anything at all

[jjh927]

That just feels completely disingenuous to me

There's actual ways you could be sorting between me and Ythan but instead you're like "Ythan voted jjh 2 hours ago and jjh hasn't voted her yet"

[Ythan]

UNVOTE: sigh talking about mech with Titus

[Ythan]

Oops lol

UNVOTE:

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What mech

WHAT MECH MS COP?!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

YOU HAVE A PURPORTED GUILTY

WHAT MECH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why does whether or not I have voted for Ythan change anything at all

I believe mith is referring to ali' s Mith vote, not that accuracy matters to you here i think

[jjh927]

I'm having an even harder time seeing a world where jjh is town and hasn't already voted for Ythan.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well shit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah I'm not sure the expiditiousness of Your vote matters either but

[mith]

[previewedit]
I was talking about jjh's lack of vote. (More generally, about jjh's lack of

push toward a player who has to be scum

if jjh is town.)

And this is going to be less relevant now because Ythan unvoted. But anyway, I'll finish what I was writing:
[/previewedit]

That just feels completely disingenuous to me

There's actual ways you could be sorting between me and Ythan but instead you're like "Ythan voted jjh 2 hours ago and jjh hasn't voted her yet"

Your lack of vote is obviously not the only reason I think you are scum. I've spent a good chunk of the day discussing why I think you are the more likely scum.

[previewedit]moved the bit about jjh's lack of Ythan push to the start[/previewedit]

My preferred lim is Ythan

If it's on what we'd consolidate onto, then in addition to Ythan, right now I'd happily go for LLD and more hesitantly go for mith or menalque.
However, as Ythan has a result on LLD convention dictates that LLD should not be the lim. Convenient.

Town being the target of a fake guilty claim are not thinking this much about consolidating on someone other than the player they know is scum. (Town also doesn't say they would happily go for LLD while recognizing that LLD should not be the lim.)

Scum jjh, on the other hand, has clear incentive to keep options open; "consolidating" on me, specifically, wins scum the game. Together with Ali's vote, this is confirming the vibe I've had much of the day since the claims: scum are hoping to leave open the possibility of mislimming me to win the game immediately. I look at jjh's ISO and I see a whole lot of "well mith is probably scum" and not a whole lot of "Ythan is confirmed scum and should be the lim".

[jjh927]

Oh so the problem is that I'm not spamming the thread with "Ythan is scum" with every other post? I already know that bit. Everyone already knows there's one scum in me and Ythan

[Ythan]

VOTE: jjf927

Whoops she was telling me what we do if there's a no lim and I my half awake brain thought she was suggesting that as the way to go so I hopped off to be safe. We doin jjh.

[jjh927]

I find it very believable that Titus pointed out that a no lim would also win the game for you and mith and you took that at face value

[jjh927]

VOTE: Ytfan

[Ythan]

She says if there's a no lim mith has to shoot jjh. I get shot, lld is conf and directs lim, does datisi. Lld dies leaving five. Mith directs elimination and either we win or elo with three of mena bella ali mith. Wants lld's thoughts.

[Ythan]

I find it very believable that Titus pointed out that a no lim would also win the game for you and mith and you took that at face value

I continue to chuckle when I read your posts.

[jjh927]

Titus might want to check her maths there