I think this is more likely bc I don’t think I ever indicated I would be down to vote ythanIn post 4820, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Unless Dats is town in which case I flip and its over they quickhammer
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You get what I am doing right mena
I only need 1townieYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yes
Also, the Friday before I went away I gave koba’s solve which was Bella/ythan/jjh but i wouldn’t say dats jumped on that to try and sell me on ythan by any means
And then by Thursday last week I was explicit that we needed to flip jjh"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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I now wish I hadn’t done the gambit last night of trying to add ythan again just in case bc I think if you/Mith are in PT then (1) you see how much dats and I were talking about game there esp on d2 and also (2) I think it’s very clearing for my slot individually because it adds context to what I was doing in main thread"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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I also have concerns about that yes ahaYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Target mith with it tonight thenYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I think if I we don’t win today then it’s a wifom game of who to add so I’m not gonna talk more about that unless you and Mith like, really want me to"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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I mean
I'm confirmed confirmed town
Target mith. If they want to shoot mith to block this, and let me exist in ELO, They are welcome toYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Well jingle agrees with that as well so I guess there’s really no reason not to"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Neighbouriser such an underrated role incidentally
So much more versatile and fun than it’s given credit for"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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And not even mechanically useless! I would say!"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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Mena, What's so frustrating for me is that I feel like you came into today saying 'this interaction with gimli looks bad for bella' and I proved to you a)it was the opposite and b) datisi and Ali have the interaction you think looks bad with the gimli speed wagon like ten posts apart, And your take away is still 'its more likely to be bella?'
Like, I was also partnered with imaginality, wasn't i? I don't know what's stopping you re-assessing.
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This is trueIn post 4834, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Target mith and we gain advantage either way-
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@lld, is it mechanically better to just lim me? Because I'm not getting out of lylo alive with dats and mena.-
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I am pending re-examination of D1 and ideally D2, but yes, even in spite of all that I still think you’re more likely to be scum. Why? Because I just really think dats is town.In post 4838, Bellaphant wrote: Mena, What's so frustrating for me is that I feel like you came into today saying 'this interaction with gimli looks bad for bella' and I proved to you a)it was the opposite and b) datisi and Ali have the interaction you think looks bad with the gimli speed wagon like ten posts apart, And your take away is still 'its more likely to be bella?'
Like, I was also partnered with imaginality, wasn't i? I don't know what's stopping you re-assessing.
Go back to those day one quotes.
Like if this is the town-scum axis:
Town lld-Mith——datisi——————————Bella————————scum
Where I don’t feel super confident you’re scum but you’re just lower down
Then that maybe means the axis looks like this:
Town lld-Mith——datisi————Bella——————————————scum
So like, you move up relatively but I’m still more confident on dats being town"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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we're always eliminating one of you/dats/menaIn post 4840, Bellaphant wrote: @lld, is it mechanically better to just lim me? Because I'm not getting out of lylo alive with dats and mena.
so tomorrow will look like
one of me and mith (minus the one scum kill) + 2 of you/dats/mena (minus the one we kill)
so it'd always be like you vs mena or you vs dats or dats vs mena with one of me or mith as the swing vote
which is why i wanna make double triple quad sure as my first action today to be 100000000% certain mith is town
which I probably will be?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yeah, let me know if you want me to address anything in particular. I think there quite a few reasons I wouldn’t have played D3 in particular that way as scum with Ali and jjh, but ultimately there’s always going to be a bit of WIFOM if I’m talking about my own potential scum play. ~shrug~
I’m a little annoyed that Mena did not neighborize LLD, having access to the neighborhood would make that side of things much easier to process. Mena, did you discuss your target at all with Datisi?
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d2 feels so far ago by nowIn post 4843, mith wrote: Datisi, D2: Explain the thought process for voting Ythan and then moving back to imaginality.
i don't think there's much to explain. i thought imaginality was scummy and wanted him dead. but i also thought that ythan was playing sort of like her scumgame that i've seen a bit ago, that you are town (mena and i agreed on this in hood) and that the fact that you were one of the main wagons, if not the main wagon at the time, was Bad. and i also knew mena would also be willing to vote ythan with me, i think we'd talked about that in the hood as well.
also, i think i recall alisae being suspicious of ythan? (i'm not checking that iso) so it's like, ythan was a possible scum to me, i knew there was potential to get that wagon going there, and to stop the mith wagon in the meantime that i didn't like. and i also expected ythan to actually, like, *do things* as town that's getting wagoned.
like, i'm not a player that is always voting the person that i think has the biggest % chance of flipping scum. that was imag at the time, but i saw value in getting a ythan train going.
as for swapping back to imag - that vote didn't make sense to me rn looking at the main thread, but checking the hood, me and mena were discussing voting ythan vs voting imag, and we eventually settled to imag being more likely scum, which is why both of us swapped the vote there in a relatively short amount of timeI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'm reskimming d1 and looking back this isn't like, a good pointIn post 4756, Bellaphant wrote: In what world is my first interaction with my scum partner the one I quoted there?
Like, I fucking had him in one post. I said to you yesterday that my reads hae circled back to day one and day one it was gimli and datisi for a long time.
386 is a throwaway post and i struggle to see bella thinking that level of interaction is actually clearing? scum distance all the time. she wasn't even voting there.
also like a page or so later, ali and i have a fight that's much more... idk present than that post. i'm not saying i'm clear for that or anything but i feel like this would at least have to get mentioned by bella.
and god page 25 is annoying because ali and bella are both shitting on me and the unexplained klick meta scumread and the fact that i was getting scumread for "scumposting" at alisae
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ok i got to page 43 before i realized my brain isn't reading jack shit anymore
however, i do think eod1 much more clearly points to bella than to mena
bella votes staeg in 1644. her reasons aren't great. like
Spoiler: some bella posts that mention him
tbh i still kinda don't get what 1651 is supposed to mean. but none of these reasons are good. i called out the staeg pushes at the time
also keep in mind that jjh, 3rd in draft, flipped goon so scum knew that there was a cop/bp in staeg/ythan.
which is also why id would make sense for there to be pressure from scum to push one of them through on d1. like sure ok the UB would get the role. but scum would then 100% know where the cop is and would have the ability to shoot them freely
also look at this VC
gimli jumped on the wagon with like. the worst reasoning (i didn't check lmao i just remember feeling like it was bad) and look at mena's position. he could hammer that. i'm sure scum-mena could come up with something if his goal throughout day 1 was to like, figure out who the cop isIn post 2158, implosion wrote:
he doesn't
also, about bella being like, wanting gimli at eod1 or whatever. she unvotes at 2200. she doesn't revote that day. like, she can claim she wanted gimli above others but like, her vote is very clearly not doing anything, she could've at least voted there???
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this is not that strong but i just remembered this and it maybe actually makes sense
look at this postIn post 2709, Bellaphant wrote: So the chat in our team has been: why was steag elim not pushed through, but was the nk? Steag should've been assumed to be a strong town pr, but the elim just couldn't get through, especially after me/alissy (maybe rad, haven't checked) unvoted.
Hypothesis :the last scum was just not around.
Second supporting idea: why would scum then shoot steag? They must have suspected he had strong town pr. But why wouldn't they be worried about bullet proof?
Hypothesis: because scum already has the bullet proof
Conclusion : ythan is scum, possibly bullet proof.
Thoughts, comments, questions?
with the knowledge that scum knew who cop is
and with the idea that bella is scum, who wants to push ythan, and who very clearly knew there was scum on that staeg wagon but that is magically not her conclusion
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ok i think i'll go sleep now, maybe more content tomorrow? probably
anyway ama ig
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I will at some point. I am a bundle of RL stress at the moment and haven't felt up to doing much re-reading yet.-
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We have like 9 days. There is no rush.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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