Newbie 2123: Synthwave | Game Over

[Bazuf]

so are you a cop...?

Yes...
mafiabat most probably is scum!

[Malakittens]

already knew that via the hammer

[Bazuf]

Other one probably is Jason...

[JasonWazza]

I guess quick night is the go then

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 2.1 (Final)

Bazuf (4):

JasonWazza, GuerillaWoo, towwl, Mafiabat

Malakittens (1):

Bazuf

Mafiabat (1):

Malakittens

Not voting (1):

The Bulge

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate someone.

[Umlaut]

Bazuf was eliminated.

Spoiler: He was a

Town Cop

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Everyone sleep tight!
The sun will rise in (expired on 2023-05-28 13:45:00).

[Umlaut]

towwl died.

Spoiler: He was a

Vanilla Townie

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Vote Count 3.0

Not voting (5):

Mafiabat, GuerillaWoo, The Bulge, Malakittens, JasonWazza

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-06-04 13:50:00)

[GuerillaWoo]

funny you should say that...

Time for last words dawg

[JasonWazza]

I mean, your acting like we are gonna get anything out of that Guerilla.

[JasonWazza]

I'm just gonna be open and admit, not sure if we should just push the lim through quickly and not discuss things to give Scum less info for their shot, or to actually discuss stuff today so that we get more info off the NK (but also give scum more info to make the NK).

Would like an opinion from you 3 regarding this.

[Mafiabat]

So first of all…why?

WHY would you ask for people to lim you as a PR?! What kind of incomprehensible strategy is that?!

[GuerillaWoo]

So first of all…why?

WHY would you ask for people to lim you as a PR?! What kind of incomprehensible strategy is that?!

That's the why you're asking? Because the why I'm asking is why would town ever insta-hammer barely a day into D2 without declaring intent or waiting for a claim.

I'm just gonna be open and admit, not sure if we should just push the lim through quickly and not discuss things to give Scum less info for their shot, or to actually discuss stuff today so that we get more info off the NK (but also give scum more info to make the NK).

Would like an opinion from you 3 regarding this.

Personally I don't mind just pushing a Bat lim through. Not a lot of activity going on. If the scumteam is Bulge/Mala we're screwed anyway.

[JasonWazza]

If the scumteam is Bulge/Mala we're screwed anyway.

Why specifically Bulge/Mala?

Seems weird to not even consider me.

[GuerillaWoo]

Why specifically Bulge/Mala?

Seems weird to not even consider me.

I did, just not out loud. You don't make enough sense with the other three that I'd be willing to bet lylo on it. I wanna think about combinations for a bit though. Maybe it makes sense to lim Bulge here. One of my concerns about a Bulge/Mala team is that if either of us votes for Bat, they can immediately hammer. So I dunno, first lylo in 5 years here.

I'm curious though: you mentioned D2 you had an idea of what the Pink NK was about. Do you still think it holds?

[GuerillaWoo]

For real though, if you have a green PM, don't vote. If we lose, I'd like it to be because we had a unanimous decision on a good faith scumread, and not because one townie voted another and handed two scum the 3-vote lim. That would be super lame.

[The Bulge]

alright im gonna derail things a little bit here bc i think this town's course is set to a loss.

lmao

[The Bulge]

I'm just gonna be open and admit, not sure if we should just push the lim through quickly and not discuss things to give Scum less info for their shot, or to actually discuss stuff today so that we get more info off the NK (but also give scum more info to make the NK).

Would like an opinion from you 3 regarding this.

you're aware that it's lylo yea? what's the rush

"give scum less info for their shot" in a 57 page game lol why are u bullshitting rn

[The Bulge]

why did you hammer bazuf without intent or a claim?

what is your read of jason?

answer both in your next post.

[The Bulge]

Oh i guess that means i can probably stop the theatrics.

what did you mean by this?

[The Bulge]

I will point out, look at how many lims Bazuf is now trying to push guys.

Mala is his vote
I'm being scum read
Guerilla/Bulge is somehow SvS
He maintains his suspicion on Bat

The one person not named is Towwl, and why would that be?

I'm not pushing any lims, I'm putting things on the table for discussion

Ok so why is Towwl not a choice?

For someone that is literally paranoid of every player, seems weird that you wouldn't consider Towwl at all.

@Jason, I'll just tell you this...
I'm pretty sure that between you, mala and mafiabat there's at least one scum.
I think you're clever enough to understand that and why I'm not mentioning towwl at all...

you also need to explain how tf you missed this. and didn't once consider that bazuf and towwl might have been masons? or that bazuf had an inno? just a full-on push against bazuf while you plugged your ears at the possibility he was a pr? nah i don't buy it for a second, ESPECIALLY after 1366.

[The Bulge]

guerilla you can explain how you missed 1366 too since you were present in the thread and on the wagon.

[The Bulge]

if those questions are too tough for you jason i'll throw you some easy ones.

I mean i don't even know how useful that wagon is, at least me i only joined after Delta decided to soft claim, and add to the pile of claimed players i was maintaining we had to lim between.

say more about this? why wouldn't the d1 wagon be worth analyzing?

Besides, I think you're planting the idea that some inexperienced player would kill Pink, but maybe an experience player such as youserlf would use that in his advantage?
First to plant the idea it was a kill made by an inexperienced player.

Also i will point out, i don't necessarily think it was just a newbie player anymore, and have found a reason that makes sense for anyone to do it, i just don't feel the need to point it out to everyone right now.

the time to point it out to everyone is now!

Well i mean, that wasn't what i was looking for, i don't think this is an attempted PR kill, so that point would be irrelevant.

why not?

@guerilla, mind joining me for a bit?

at this point your were getting defensive towards bazuf, why get guerilla to hop on? looks opportunistic to me as guerilla was questioning bazuf at the time.

Towwl, why do you feel the need to interject here?

Yeah but, why do you need to talk for Bazuf?

Why does Bazuf not have to actually give his reasoning?

Why can i not ask any questions of Bazuf without your interjection?

The irony is, you should know why i'm doing this line of questioning, i've made my position clear in the past, so why is it so important for you to get in the middle?

explain your frustration here

[JasonWazza]

"give scum less info for their shot" in a 57 page game lol why are u bullshitting rn

I don't think scum have a huge amount of info for taking us into a 3P LYLO.

Oh i guess that means i can probably stop the theatrics.

what did you mean by this?

Oh so Bulge is just scum, this should be obvious if you aren't scum. (Note, i refuse to answer this if it only comes from Bulge/Bat, i will answer if Mala/Guerilla requests it.)

you also need to explain how tf you missed this. and didn't once consider that bazuf and towwl might have been masons? or that bazuf had an inno? just a full-on push against bazuf while you plugged your ears at the possibility he was a pr? nah i don't buy it for a second, ESPECIALLY after 1366.

Towwl side didn't make sense in my mind as a Mason pair (IE: Check Towwls ISO), but more sense as a Scum Pair, and i don't see why Bazuf Cop would ever check Towwl considering he actually always seemed to be TRing him for no reason.

Not to mention, if it were Mason's i wouldn't be able to convince Towwl to pressure vote him right?

say more about this? why wouldn't the d1 wagon be worth analyzing?

Deadline crunch wagon's don't tell you a lot, Delta, myself and Guerilla are all votes that don't really say a lot.

Besides, I think you're planting the idea that some inexperienced player would kill Pink, but maybe an experience player such as youserlf would use that in his advantage?
First to plant the idea it was a kill made by an inexperienced player.

Also i will point out, i don't necessarily think it was just a newbie player anymore, and have found a reason that makes sense for anyone to do it, i just don't feel the need to point it out to everyone right now.

the time to point it out to everyone is now!

If Delta flips red, cop on Mafiabat. If green, cop on me

Player strength, and the above

Well i mean, that wasn't what i was looking for, i don't think this is an attempted PR kill, so that point would be irrelevant.

why not?

You think Pink was a PR?

@guerilla, mind joining me for a bit?

at this point your were getting defensive towards bazuf, why get guerilla to hop on? looks opportunistic to me as guerilla was questioning bazuf at the time.

I wasn't defensive, and clearly I was looking to pressure Bazuf into actually give answers.

Towwl, why do you feel the need to interject here?

Yeah but, why do you need to talk for Bazuf?

Why does Bazuf not have to actually give his reasoning?

Why can i not ask any questions of Bazuf without your interjection?

The irony is, you should know why i'm doing this line of questioning, i've made my position clear in the past, so why is it so important for you to get in the middle?

explain your frustration here

Did you read the game?

Like actually did you read the game?

[GuerillaWoo]

guerilla you can explain how you missed 1366 too since you were present in the thread and on the wagon.

Because I did? Idk how to explain how I missed something lol. Like most people who miss something, I was busy thinking about things that are not that something. lol c'mon this is tautological. If I knew not to miss it I wouldn't have missed it.

Who do you think the scumteam is currently?

[GuerillaWoo]

Are we shading slots using the blame game now? "Foresight is 20/20, therefore explain your vote"?