Newbie 2123: Synthwave | Game Over

[GuerillaWoo]

I don't think you're dumb or tunneling. I am curious why both of you see town!Mala, though. I've spent a while being super uncertain about her since the latter half of D1, just due to the amount of absence.

[The Bulge]

and just to be clear Bulge, i think your giving away your TMI, in that you worked out that Bazuf was cop, and that's why the insta-hammer happened, whereas i had no clue and thought Mala was a PR based on it.

now thats a stretch lol

youre saying i was active lurking, waiting for e-1 and told my buddy mafiabat to quickhammer?

i was no where near the game thread when the hammer happened

[JasonWazza]

Mala reads as town, and i don't see that hammer occurring due to Mala scum. (i'm not super obvious that i'm a VT when that hammer occurs, so the scum team of Mala/Bat actually has to question hammering that.)

[The Bulge]

I don't think you're dumb or tunneling. I am curious why both of you see town!Mala, though. I've spent a while being super uncertain about her since the latter half of D1, just due to the amount of absence.

i could see mala scum tho tbh i havent looked closely at her slot. but nothing has pinged me all game and my gut says mala/bat pairing doesnt make sense (tho i would have to double-iso to confirm that hunch)

[GuerillaWoo]

So me and towwl game solved super early :3 :3 :3

[JasonWazza]

Also can i just point out that the hammer occurred at this time, how exactly do we have proof you weren't near the game thread?

[The Bulge]

Also can i just point out that the hammer occurred at this time, how exactly do we have proof you weren't near the game thread?

we dont! lets see proof that i was?

when you make an outrageous claim the onus of proof is on you, obviously i cant prove i wasnt active lurking but how does that give more credit to your theory i was directing the disaster that was yesterday's lim from the shadows?

[The Bulge]

even more outrageous given the fact that whether or not youre scum, yesterday's mislim was on you

[GuerillaWoo]

I almost want to vote Bulge today, like seriously, how can you look at this and think TMI when i'm sitting in a position where i know my own role and think Mala is town.

This is tripping me up though.

[GuerillaWoo]

even more outrageous given the fact that whether or not youre scum, yesterday's mislim was on you

how so?

[JasonWazza]

even more outrageous given the fact that whether or not youre scum, yesterday's mislim was on you

how so?

I mean i did orchestrate putting Bazuf at E-1.

[The Bulge]

even more outrageous given the fact that whether or not youre scum, yesterday's mislim was on you

how so?

the projection

the reason the bazuf lim happened is obvious to anyone reading the thread, regardless of jason's alignment: jason voted bazuf, rallied two more votes, then scumbat hammered.

jason's new theory is it was actually my fault, the player who made like 3 posts yesterday and then dipped

[JasonWazza]

I mean, it doesn't really make sense for me to be so blatant as scum does it?

I feel like if i was scum, i could have held off for a natural vote, because Bazuf looks scummy as fuck.

[GuerillaWoo]

The clincher for me is this

thinking if im wrong about either id rather be wrong about jason than to lose the game limming a newbie who accidentally hammered a pr

You think Jason is Bat's partner. Jason thinks you're Bat's partner. Why would you rather be wrong on Jason than Bat?

[JasonWazza]

Also wait, can i just get something right.

You think Jason!Scum noticed that Bazuf was a cop with an innocent on Towwl, and was actually threatened by this?

[GuerillaWoo]

i believe you were frustrated that towwl was intervening on your shitpush against bazuf, and i believe you knew bazuf was a pr.

#1366 came after Towwl answered for Bazuf tho.

Bat is not quite a scum read not quite a null read for Bulge before the quick hammer, yet Bat has had his vote on Bulge for a while and this is never a point of interest for Bulge.

Also I really don't like the way Bat says this

I’m going to keep my vote on Bulge - his slot vs Guerilla still isn’t resolved yet, and I still trust Guerilla more. Plus, Bulge just suddenly tunneled into Jason???

wtf is a sudden tunnel

the only person who said anything about bulge being tunneled on Jason is Bulge himself.

[JasonWazza]

Also wait, can i just get something right.

You think Jason!Scum noticed that Bazuf was a cop with an innocent on Towwl, and was actually threatened by this?

Here's my take on this.

Jason!scum pins Bazuf as a cop with an innocent on Towwl, i run Bazuf up naturally, get intent and make Bazuf claimed, so there is no ambiguity as to why he dies at night, and get free reign to freely change all my reads based on game state.

And Bulge now has to explain why if i am scum, why do i do the bit with Mala? (Especially if I think this claim is obvious enough that it's free to see.)

The shit i did with Mala is just nonsense if i already have a reason to not be in trouble for the quick hammer (in that it was apparently according to Bulge, obvious).

[JasonWazza]

Also for the above, Bulge also said that Mason's is possible, why do i request possible Mason's to vote a Confirmed town?

That's just dumb.

[JasonWazza]

and for the me being TMI stuff, what you have to realize, is that the kill went through last night, and scum if in A, shouldn't know if it's me or Mala as a doctor, and can't safely shoot Towwl.

Obviously this doesn't work if scum is in {Mala, Jason} but i already know i'm town, and i think Mala is town, and with no real reason to doubt this, we have to be in C.

If we are in A, you can't shoot Towwl as scum, you shoot me or Mala (or else you give away that me or Mala is scum).

I know Mala knows the above because Mala isn't stupid, so based on that logic, we have to be in C.

If we are in A, and Mala claims Doctor, then Bulge has to be 100% Scum.

[JasonWazza]

If we are in A, and Mala claims Doctor, then Bulge has to be 100% Scum.

Should tack to the end of this "In my mind"

[JasonWazza]

I think you're clever enough to understand that and why I'm not mentioning towwl at all...

Also bulge, just curious, why are you so set on me, when Mala actually makes a lot of sense for your thinking?

Since Mala was present, and also actually saw the claim.

[GuerillaWoo]

I still feel like I should at least consider a Mala/Jason or Mala/Bulge team. Would still like input from Mala on all this.



But since we're at this game state I wanna just share: I spent most of D1 thinking towwl was the cop. Good times. Can't believe it was only 8 months ago.

[JasonWazza]

Guerilla, i don't think me and Mala would do the fake claim back and forth at end of day if we were both scum.

No real point, we probably just both shut our mouths and let day end (since in this world, Bat is Town).

[GuerillaWoo]

Yeah I PoE'd you out based on that interaction, it's why earlier I said if it's Mala/Bulge we're screwed. You don't make sense to me with Bat because Invis was set on a Bat lim and basically made the early wagon. Bulge is trying to lim you, so that team theory's out. Leaves you and Mala, and that interaction felt genuinely confused on Mala's and your parts. So you're not a good fit for any team theory.

Mala doesn't work with Bat, longest tunnel in the game. So that leaves Bulge. She had barely any interaction with the slot, and zero interaction since Bulge subbed in. Which is why I'm in my head about it.

But I'm still principally on the Bat/Bulge theory. I just remember that it's lylo and I'm like, am I sure tho. It's why I said maybe it'd be a good idea to lim Bulge first... but I feel like that's dumb, and I don't know why I feel like that's dumb.

[JasonWazza]

I mean i can see Bulge, you'd have to convince me on Mala.

I also feel like Bulge is just trying to stop the lim from being Bat, which would make Bat/Bulge make more sense.