Micro 1079 - dividing connor (game over)

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VOTE: yessiree

okay then

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wait why are the neighborhoods just order of signups? I think scum tried to make neighborhoods with an unbiased mechanism so that we couldn't glean anything from them LOL

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boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds

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I forgot that was a thing you could do on forums!

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wait why are the neighborhoods just order of signups? I think scum tried to make neighborhoods with an unbiased mechanism so that we couldn't glean anything from them LOL

Good point, why did scum specifically go by signup order instead of just letting the mod rand it by not submitting a hood though?

pedit: Screenshots instead of quotes make my eyes burn

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oh true true. They must've decided that the order was acceptable enough over random neighborhoods so there's still probably stuff to glean from that. Not that I'll do much gleaning cuz I don't like doing meta (major player flaw. I just find it boring)

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oh true true. They must've decided that the order was acceptable enough over random neighborhoods so there's still probably stuff to glean from that. Not that I'll do much gleaning cuz I don't like doing meta (major player flaw. I just find it boring)

No I mean why did scum specifically make it obvious that they let the hoods rand instead of letting it rand and letting people see AI hood choices where there are none

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it's not exactly the same as random neighborhoods because the scum know what the neighborhoods will be before gamestart, which might have informed their decision. I was saying that's why I thought they did that. They also could have done it because it was funny

pedit: ngl that's an actual possibility LOL. Quick who here has been busy recently? (jk)

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oh true true. They must've decided that the order was acceptable enough over random neighborhoods so there's still probably stuff to glean from that. Not that I'll do much gleaning cuz I don't like doing meta (major player flaw. I just find it boring)

No I mean why did scum specifically make it obvious that they let the hoods rand instead of letting it rand and letting people see AI hood choices where there are none

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maybe it wasn't that obvious since no one noticed it straight away, but the choice seems more intentional than not
it's intentionally done to make it seem... not intentional? it could be specifically done to deny info behind neighborhood choices

this post is just saying stuff that everyone already said! Smells of fake usefulness

I feel like I missed RVS already

boring! But we should still lim in the small neighborhood probably cuz better odds

Seems right to me, randomized or not there's still one scum per hood.
VOTE: yesiree I don't like that you sheeped python with the vote on invisibility.

this feels a bit forced for a rvs vote? are you scumreading me based on that vote alone or are you just happy to vote in the small hood?

she said it's not rvs

am I shading Yesiree for minor things? Yes probably! But all of us in the small hood are scummier by default. Also it's early in the game. What else am I supposed to do

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I think usesPython are probably less likely to be scum cuz if scum wanted to explode me then they would probably not rand the neighborhoods overtly in such a way that if anyone noticed it would ruin that argument. I mean they could have done that as a silly gambit to gain credibility but that's less likely so for now they are townier in my eyes.

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maybe you should ask in the scum chat if that vote is an rvs vote or not :lol:

or maybe we should rock paper scissors between the 3 of us in the small hood and the loser gets limmed no questions asked

that would be kind of funny but we must deduce the scum through facts and logic. And then like a really awesome look of valor or honor or something goes across my face as I stare into the distance

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How does sheeping someone's vote discredit the person being voted?

I'm thinking that the yesiree vote could be an attempt to create a false sense of solidarity with python.

I think Yesiree is the most likely scum in the hood but I dunno how how much water this argument holds (in gallons) considering his choice was 50/50. Like, yeah he could be doing that but I don't think it's more likely to be the case

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probably about 3.785 times more likely, which doesn't amount to much

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still doesn't amount to much*

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lol same I'll be serious awesome player tomorrow

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I mean later today

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VOTE: Merlyn
pretending that I've never seen a neighborhood in my entire life I think Merlyn's cases against Yessiree are bad

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no one proposed any funny neighborhood votes :(

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wait I mean we did but we never conclusively humorously voted together

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especially when they just said they weren't gonna be serious posting right before making that vote

well I was gonna reread later and then I just felt like rereading then instead

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especially when they just said they weren't gonna be serious posting right before making that vote

well I was gonna reread later and then I just felt like rereading then instead

what's weird about posting seriousness before I said I would like I would get it if I promised something and never delivered but like you got an advance of the Vizzy brainsmarts. That's like a better deal right

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wait I mean we did but we never conclusively humorously voted together

oh we did actually do this and I forgot and my bloodline will suffer 1000 years of guilt

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pretending that I've never seen a neighborhood in my entire life I think Merlyn's cases against Yessiree are bad

Fair enough, it's really barely a case- I just saw something that pinged me and want to push a bit on it. Question for you- what posts of yessiree's since then should have made me think, okay that seems like town?

uhh not much. I think Yessiree is most likely scum in the neighborhood, but even then I think you have the wrong reasons and also my belief there is mostly PoE lol. You may be ultimately coming to the same conclusion as me but I don't like your reasons!

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though I have been pondering usesPython's vote on Yessiree regarding them not posting in the neighborhood kinda very much sucks when they'd said that posting in the small neighborhood was pointless

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Sorting in the hood chat is absolutely suboptimal compared to sorting in the main thread but that's not actually the point of my argument. Joking around and posting memes isn't conductive to sorting but we're still doing it because we're here to have fun, my argument was that yessiree doing that in the main thread but not doing it in the hood makes it feel manufactured instead of something being genuinely done to have fun

oh yeah that makes more sense. Don't think I agree with it but I understand where you're coming from now

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Sorting in the hood chat is absolutely suboptimal compared to sorting in the main thread but that's not actually the point of my argument. Joking around and posting memes isn't conductive to sorting but we're still doing it because we're here to have fun, my argument was that yessiree doing that in the main thread but not doing it in the hood makes it feel manufactured instead of something being genuinely done to have fun

oh yeah that makes more sense. Don't think I agree with it but I understand where you're coming from now

I lied it actually doesn't make any sense when you consider that you said that hood chat was pointless

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why are you sorting so much based on small hood actions when you said that the small hood wouldn't give much useful information?

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why are you sorting so much based on small hood actions when you said that the small hood wouldn't give much useful information?

First off I can't see the future so I don't see how hood chat unexpectedly being useful for sorting when all mechanical signs were pointing to it being pointless is a gotcha here, second off my point wasn't that we shouldn't be sorting from hood posts but that posting game advancing content in the hood is suboptimal because all it does is prevent big hood town from seeing it. I'll still sort using hood posts because wtf kind of alternative are you asking me to do, ignore the hood posts while sorting?

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ok nvm this post sounds very genuine. Maybe my real strategy is to just be really annoying and sort people based on their reactions. I will uhhh not do that on purpose

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especially when they just said they weren't gonna be serious posting right before making that vote

well I was gonna reread later and then I just felt like rereading then instead

what's weird about posting seriousness before I said I would like I would get it if I promised something and never delivered but like you got an advance of the Vizzy brainsmarts. That's like a better deal right

Two sides of the same coin really, so there's not much relevance of one side being better or worse than the other

not going up on promises is scummy though cuz you're actively avoiding playing like if you can't actually drum up a response in the timeframe. I fail to see how this is true for being early lol I think that's NAI

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I want to pay more attention to big hood. So VOTE: Save the Dragons for the really well thought out and strategic reason of I feel like it and it'll probably go somewhere and sheeping is fun and I don't feel like voting Merlyn anymore cuz Yessiree is the scummiest neighbor

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I think it's not bad at all but like whatever. Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of shebangs

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like in general?

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wait wait so are you saying it's unlikely Cakez faked posts to mindmeld with you?

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wait wait so are you saying it's unlikely Cakez faked posts to mindmeld with you?

It would be rather difficult unless he was psychic. But yes that is my premise.

lol what

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hi

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i just think it's best to sort the big hood so i wouldn't mind more participation from the big hood (myself included, i guess) since the small hood is kind of running amok with the thread

do you have an opinion about a big hoodite that you'd like to share?

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that's crazy!

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VOTE: ActionDan

yeah this is the scummiest player right now for that terrible read

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what do the previous games show about what hood to focus on and when to shift focus/look at both hoods? I could look myself but I don't feel like it :3 Plus I think other people already have

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I was thinking we lim in the small hood cuz that has a better chance of hitting scum but does also focus people's sights on fewer people which makes future sorting worse so idk. I was thinking we could just pretend neighborhoods don't exist to the best of our abilities but also ultimately lim in the small hood today LOL idk if that's actually a good idea or not. Or like, something that can really happen

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that's fair LOL

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why is AD's read terrible?

it's so weak cuz the read is based off the idea that Cakez would be difficult to fake a mindmeld with AD, which is true, but since AD didn't share these ideas beforehand that the only way Cakez would be able to fake this would be if he could read minds. Maybe terrible is too strong a word, but it's very very weird to me that he would even mention the unlikelihood of Cakez faking mindmeldable stuff as a townread reason cuz it's so beyond the realm of possibility that it's not even worth mentioning. Is the read otherwise much different than a regular mindmeld read? Not really! But the weird logic used makes me suspicious.

I might as well also talk about this here lol. Concerning 230 from Yessirree, point 1 has some merit, but I disagree with points 2 and 3.

two is you're not giving anything concrete to the rest of the players to discern the validity of it, you're just saying sircakez is mirroring your thoughts that can't be faked so he's town

I can understand using this argument in some contexts if you think AD is being evasive, but I don't think this makes very much sense right now. Yeah, AD's argument isn't concrete, but like, we're so early in the game. What can ya do? I don't think it's AI.

three is you're doing it in a way that's making it more about spewing urself town rather than focusing on the read itself

this is kind of a stretch. Not sure how you arrived at this tbh

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If the 'terrible read' Invisibility is talking about for Dan is on Yesiree, that's super scummy of Invisibility, unless Invis is pushing Python, but I'll read up. Just my current thoughts.

no it's Dan's read of Cakez :P

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oh nvm you saw that LOL

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@Invisibility - What’s your take on Python right now?

for about twelve hours I intentionally tried to devote very little brainspace to the small hood cuz I was not being normal about it (like not being able to have a consistent opinion about it and focusing too much on it, hence the flipflopping) but I think I am capable of being normal now after that brief sabbatical. On re-reinspection I do again think that Python shading Yess for not posting memes was a bit silly and super weird. I hadn't thought about how their argument for switching onto Yess when the neighborhoods were obviously not randomized is pretty bad (I was confused by why they insisted it was random and not a decision that we could glean anything from or whatever but I thought they probably just misunderstood me and I decided it wasn't worth quibbling over lol) but it makes a lot of sense. Also I don't really see a reason to SR Yess and really never did. I think 73 and the thing about me being serious ahead of schedule in 134 were kinda weird but like, those are such minuscule potatoes that I don't care. My vote on Yess was because I thought usesPython were more townie, but now I don't think that.

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Also the entire small hood paraphrased is incoming

I hope you include all the memes

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Also the entire small hood paraphrased is incoming

I hope you include all the memes

Nah I will tantalizingly tease them but never actually post it so they can be jealous :twisted:

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ooo I like that more

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you never responded to my semantics Dan :(

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you never responded to my semantics Dan :(

Last I checked you were voting me for typing one sentence too many

I'm voting you for typing one sentence that was weird and smacked of bad logic that'd arise from an unnatural thought process!

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oh ok cool thanks

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@Python, why did you switch to Yess when you found out the neighborhoods weren't hand-picked? They weren't randed either.

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Also maybe randed is the wrong word but I couldn't think of a better one at the time, I guess you could call it a low information hood instead if you want?

do you not think that a scum!Yess would not choose to go by playerlist order for the reasons you thought he wouldn't before you realized the hoods were in playerlist order? Like, scum intentionally chose neighborhood composition. Even though it offers less information, it still offers some information? Why does the TR not apply?

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i think scum in the small hood is taking the lead

i don't know who it is though. need to re-read or iso dive and that might not happen today

wouldn't that mean you think Yess is scum lol

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oh wait nvm I misread FTDs post LOL. I thought he said scum isn't taking the lead

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I don't feel like voting this anymore! 309 and 311 feel like town reactions lol

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I don't think the hoods were chosen for the small hood composition, so the TR based on small hood composition doesn't apply

but scum obviously found the small hood composition acceptable even if that wasn't their main intention. Would letting you and him be in the same hood not, like, still suck for scum!Yess?

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VOTE: Python

I would like to pressure for reasons I think are correct. I held off on this vote cuz Python was acting like besties with me (including (jokingly?) suggesting we quickhammer Yess) and I wanted to sniff out if pocketing was happening but that's not going to happen anymore.

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lol okay

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i think scum in the small hood is taking the lead

i don't know who it is though. need to re-read or iso dive and that might not happen today

wouldn't that mean you think Yess is scum lol

how is Invis aware enough to notice the hood order is not random but fumble so hard on simple logic :lol:

rude!

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why is AD's read terrible?

it's so weak cuz the read is based off the idea that Cakez would be difficult to fake a mindmeld with AD, which is true, but since AD didn't share these ideas beforehand that the only way Cakez would be able to fake this would be if he could read minds. Maybe terrible is too strong a word, but it's very very weird to me that he would even mention the unlikelihood of Cakez faking mindmeldable stuff as a townread reason cuz it's so beyond the realm of possibility that it's not even worth mentioning. Is the read otherwise much different than a regular mindmeld read? Not really! But the weird logic used makes me suspicious.

WTF is this paragraph? Invis and yes were the ones who were having the issue with understanding that Cakez would have to be psychic to post what Dan was thinking but hadn't said. There's no weird logic in it at all.

what? Is it cuz AD didn't say specifically "psychic powers"?

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I don't think the hoods were chosen for the small hood composition, so the TR based on small hood composition doesn't apply

but scum obviously found the small hood composition acceptable even if that wasn't their main intention. Would letting you and him be in the same hood not, like, still suck for scum!Yess?

Why is Invis still trying to get Python to go for yessiree based on this ancient reasoning?

I'm pointing out the inconsistencies in Python's logic. I find it scummy. I don't think they should go for Yess.

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why is AD's read terrible?

it's so weak cuz the read is based off the idea that Cakez would be difficult to fake a mindmeld with AD, which is true, but since AD didn't share these ideas beforehand that the only way Cakez would be able to fake this would be if he could read minds. Maybe terrible is too strong a word, but it's very very weird to me that he would even mention the unlikelihood of Cakez faking mindmeldable stuff as a townread reason cuz it's so beyond the realm of possibility that it's not even worth mentioning. Is the read otherwise much different than a regular mindmeld read? Not really! But the weird logic used makes me suspicious.

WTF is this paragraph? Invis and yes were the ones who were having the issue with understanding that Cakez would have to be psychic to post what Dan was thinking but hadn't said. There's no weird logic in it at all.

okay I think I understand what you're confused about. I was pinged by AD mentioning the faking aspect of the mindmeld since it goes without saying. I know how mindmelds work. I say that it isn't otherwise that different from a regular mindmeld read lol

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I think limming in the small hood is worth it

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but I sr Python anyway so shrug maybe I'm biased

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I kinda want to lim in the big hood today actually
I feel we have a good shot there compared to little hood

why are you so confident?

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I kinda want to lim in the big hood today actually
I feel we have a good shot there compared to little hood

why are you so confident?

I'm not? What gave you the impression I was?

oh lol I got the wrong impression from you saying we have a good shot

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Voting me for having 7 posts seems arbitrary when burger party, merlyn, sircakez, ad all had low post counts even if I said people should post more

why does it seem like this is all you're talking about

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townlean on Aureal cuz her recent posts have sounded pretty reasonable

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man I dunno how do you feel about Python or FL or something

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ngl I've somewhat checked out of this game and I was hopping that we'd get a lim and the flip could help me be less bored but maybe today will be infinity days long. Probably will reread stuff I skimmed late rlol

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your vote is still bad fyi, i want to read the game, but i really think ur slot is scum based off p1/p2, and ur vote here

what about that vote is scummy?

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he's okay I guess. I see the thoughts being processed

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if there weren't two seconds left in the day it would be funny to vote the Oclaxian Empire

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thank you for the inspiring words VOTE: Oclax

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why would Invisibility go from voting a scumread to voting with their scumread, i dont even know how i should feel about that slot anymore

we get a little silly with it

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ok I'm going to sleep in like an hour so I'm done getting a little silly with it
VOTE: python[/b]
e-1 btw btw btw btw

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VOTE: python
e-1 btw btw btw btw btw btw but for real this time

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why would Invisibility go from voting a scumread to voting with their scumread, i dont even know how i should feel about that slot anymore

Oclax reacted really poorly to pressure from one player so I thought it would be silly if they faced pressure from two players after Python showed up but like I always planned to vote Python anyway. Python being gung ho to lim Oclax makes me not want to lim there also but like I will think about that after the flip

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but all that distracts from my ultimate motivation: it was funny

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oclax too e-1

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i dont think u've read the small hood back-and-forth, i think u should do that and lemme know what u think

I've been reading it btw. It points very bad against Python

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okay sure gimme a second

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wait I don't need a second. I wasn't going to direct quote it and I don't really need to 1:1 paraphrase it anyway. Who cares.

Python continues to rail against Yess for not posting memes in the small hood. Python asked if I could use this argument against Yess tomorrow. I think it's a silly argument but they probably thought I was amenable enough to it to make me switch my vote which like I did express some consideration of it. That's basically it actually. THere's a bunch of game analysis going on there btu Python actually sounds more reasonable in saying that a big hood lim is better and there's no need to be survivalistic in a bus heavy setup

UNVOTE: taking off my vote so no one lolhammers while I Ponder

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ok I'm done now VOTE: Python. Still most likely scum

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to convince the rest of the town

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wow I should really check for new pages. That was directed at FL

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wait I don't need a second. I wasn't going to direct quote it and I don't really need to 1:1 paraphrase it anyway. Who cares.

Python continues to rail against Yess for not posting memes in the small hood. Python asked if I could use this argument against Yess tomorrow. I think it's a silly argument but they probably thought I was amenable enough to it to make me switch my vote which like I did express some consideration of it. That's basically it actually. THere's a bunch of game analysis going on there btu Python actually sounds more reasonable in saying that a big hood lim is better and there's no need to be survivalistic in a bus heavy setup

UNVOTE: taking off my vote so no one lolhammers while I Ponder

if they think it's a bus heavy setup why wouldn't they just let their partner bus them and then play the deepwolf game, isn't that like the optimal strategy they came up with. why would they still try to fight their lim by shifting it to big hood O_o

I think that's the idea lol

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I can make a better scum case as is on Yessiree instead of 'didn't meme in neighborhood'.

yeah it's not a good argument LOL

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from my understanding Python said limming in the big hood is better cuz it's the only day scum can't bus the big hood without losing the game. Python can definitely clarify things better than I said. Yess says this is deflecting to get the vote off them. Python says that they wouldn't be survivalistic here because it's in the scum's best interest to bus the small hood scum, or something

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yeah this is annoying idk why we did this

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im probably not going to hammer

we have six hours lol

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@everyone voting me

When I die, kill Pyhton with fire. Instantly. Do not let this scum escape. But otherwise, congrats on killing a townie! You’ve successfully tilted me out of the game. Python is just obviously scum. I hate the slot. The slot should die.

wow

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sure lol

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im probably not going to hammer

Also can you explain this

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maybe I haven't been clear enough that someone should just hammer Python right now. Wagoning Oclax was funny but I feel ok with what we got out of it but we should definitely just go for the 1/3 especially from my perspective!

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maybe I haven't been clear enough that someone should just hammer Python right now. Wagoning Oclax was funny but I feel ok with what we got out of it but we should definitely just go for the 1/3 especially from my perspective!

Oclax probably flips the opposite of Python

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tbh I think Python is right here but it's not gonna happen :P

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Python, if we flipped Oclax as scum here, why would you still be the expected flip tomorrow? I don't think anyone really thinks you two are partnered, more the reverse?

yeah exactly lol

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I feel like Invis is just here to throw shade at Python.

yeah I think I am now

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responding to Python here

your strategy is sound but it won't come to fruition and I doubt people who might be amenable will be convinced. I think ur scum anyway lol

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gg folks. Interesting game

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How did people like the flavor? I think between this game and my mini normal I'm digging the short funny surreal snippets lately and that'll probably be the direction I go with while finding my "modding voice" or whatever

I like it a lot. It's funny

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/in to all future Skygazer games for the flip flavor

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i stole the funny flips idea from schadd_ :dead:

Schadd has many good ideas ripe for the pilfering

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I was rooting for your success