Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

[Black]

I'm not really even sure why this is a talking point. Did I miss something? Why does it matter if drew wanted to start a wagon on me or now?

People start wagons all the time?

The wagon on you was bad as you are straight up obvtown. Encouraging it (or whatever language you want to use) was bad. Doubly so because he whines about LLD having stones

I'm kind of concerned with titus obvtown binning me considering I just snowed the crap out of her as scum in team mafia though.

Do you think my play here is drastically different?

I was gonna say the same thing...

[Ranger]

If Metens is scum, turbo flip Ranger.

Weird take, considering Metens's my third-strongest scumread.

Metens can't be scum with you, for sure.

I see you as more +scum, and paired with LLD, also +scum.

Were I convinced otherwise, Malakittens would be my vote.

[Ranger]

wait, is ranger an alt?

mastina, the caveat is that ranger is a different personality/style/etc.
I still see it as mastina posting tho

Facet I believe is what you are looking for.

I should clarify this once again.
I'm not mastina.
I don't have any of mastina's memories or experiences.
Nor do I share her feelings/emotions/philosophies.
I'm

aware

of her, to some extent, in the same way you'd be aware of her if you read a past game you were not in but she was. Pick any random game you didn't play in which she did, then pick a few random places to read. That level of exposure/knowledge from her is mine.

We're not interchangeable. She's a different person than I.

I've no capacity to judge similarities in verbiage/style/tone/thought processes/etc., as those're all metrics best observed from an outside perspective. Still, compare me to her at your own peril. It usually doesn't end well.

We've never been the same.

[Firebringer]

im convinced drew is town because scum drew i think would not get on peoples nerves

[Ranger]

Ranger has been an impediment to limming scum.

Last I checked, we've no flipped scum, and I was a strong proponent of Magical Girl as town.

It's certainly plausible I've defended scum, or avoided voting scum which was wagoned. To confirm requires flipping said scum.

Ranger's push on LLD is a way to punish players for playing the game.

Actually, my push on LLD is because LLD instantly vibed as scum. I read through P144 before giving up on catching up overnight. I skimmed her iso to see if it notably improved; it didn't. As I've little faith in vibes as a metric to read LLD, I checked Shea's feelings on LLD's entrance, to see if he believed her entrance town. He didn't. So between her pushing from 0 votes to a mislim within 24 hours on a slot I townread, her entrance vibing as scum, and no reason to doubt my conclusion, I targeted her last night.

That she didn't claim poisoned supports my scumread.

[Firebringer]

@drew ur not on my nerves though buddy, but thats because im scum

[Firebringer]

I should really be solving this game at some point.
Where all the scum butts seriously at.

I mean i guess i could go back on LLD since the only reaction i felt was sort of townie was our swap thing. Meh

[Doctor Drew]

@drew ur not on my nerves though buddy, but thats because im scum

<3

[Doctor Drew]

Ranger has been an impediment to limming scum.

Last I checked, we've no flipped scum, and I was a strong proponent of Magical Girl as town.

It's certainly plausible I've defended scum, or avoided voting scum which was wagoned. To confirm requires flipping said scum.

Ranger's push on LLD is a way to punish players for playing the game.

Actually, my push on LLD is because LLD instantly vibed as scum. I read through P144 before giving up on catching up overnight. I skimmed her iso to see if it notably improved; it didn't. As I've little faith in vibes as a metric to read LLD, I checked Shea's feelings on LLD's entrance, to see if he believed her entrance town. He didn't. So between her pushing from 0 votes to a mislim within 24 hours on a slot I townread, her entrance vibing as scum, and no reason to doubt my conclusion, I targeted her last night.

That she didn't claim poisoned supports my scumread.

Oh now we are getting spicy.

[Ranger]

{Chandra Nalaar}
{Meuh}
{WhemeStar, Flavor Leaf, NorwegianboyEE}
{Firebringer, Doctor Drew}
{Black}
{ItalianoVD}
{Skygazer, SquirtleSquad, SirCakez}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{KittyTacky}
{Enchant}
{Not_Mafia}
{Save The Dragons}
{Malakittens}
{Titus}
{Lady Lambdadelta}

P191. Skygazer - KittyTacky tiers still stale.

[Ranger]

Honestly, Ranger and Drew's flips onto me as suspect because they were big parts of the endless day that was yesterday.

Was I?

There's 11 players with more posts than I.

I'm fairly certain this was true on D1. Maybe slightly more/less. Still

around

the same.

I'd love to hear your explanation for this viewpoint.

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V OTECOUNT 2.5
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Lady Lambdadelta (6)	WhemeStar, Flavor Leaf, SirCakez, Ranger, Doctor Drew, ItalianoVD
Doctor Drew (3)	Skygazer, Lady Lambdadelta, Titus
Malakittens (2)	Chandra Nalaar, Firebringer
ItalianoVD (2)	SquirtleSquad, Sheepsaysmeep
Meuh (2)	Black, Save the Dragons
Black (1)	Meuh
Flavor Leaf (1)	Enchant
NOT VOTING: KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Malakittens, NorwegianboyEE
With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-06-25 15:05:00)
Notes: All alive players gain +1 DEF. You may fight the training dummy at any time. STD, Chandra, LLD, and Squirtle are V/LA from 6/15 - 6/20

[SquirtleSquad]

Ranger has been an impediment to limming scum.

Last I checked, we've no flipped scum, and I was a strong proponent of Magical Girl as town.

It's certainly plausible I've defended scum, or avoided voting scum which was wagoned. To confirm requires flipping said scum.

Ranger's push on LLD is a way to punish players for playing the game.

Actually, my push on LLD is because LLD instantly vibed as scum. I read through P144 before giving up on catching up overnight. I skimmed her iso to see if it notably improved; it didn't. As I've little faith in vibes as a metric to read LLD, I checked Shea's feelings on LLD's entrance, to see if he believed her entrance town. He didn't. So between her pushing from 0 votes to a mislim within 24 hours on a slot I townread, her entrance vibing as scum, and no reason to doubt my conclusion, I targeted her last night.

That she didn't claim poisoned supports my scumread.

Why did you pick me in particular? I'm not the Sebille-whisperer.

[Ranger]

LLD's entrance and actions are suspicious - but the fact 11 players went along with it is way more suspicious.

I've mixed feelings, largely dependent on LLD's alignment.

If LLD's scum, I'd actually think the wagon mostly town. If LLD's town, then it's harder to tell, and I'm conflicted.

[Ranger]

Why did you pick me in particular? I'm not the Sebille-whisperer.

Outside Save The Dragons (who I've little trust to be town rn), you're the closest the game's got.

Does any other player have remotely the familiarity with LLD you do?

Your stance being null-or-scum was, in tandem with mine being scum, enough.

[Ranger]

{Chandra Nalaar}
{Meuh}
{WhemeStar, Flavor Leaf, NorwegianboyEE}
{Black}
{Firebringer, Doctor Drew}
{ItalianoVD}
{Skygazer, SquirtleSquad, SirCakez}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{KittyTacky}
{Enchant}
{Not_Mafia}
{Save The Dragons}
{Malakittens}
{Titus}
{Lady Lambdadelta}

P194.

[KittyTacky]

23 pages to catch up. Ima do it a bit later today.

[KittyTacky]

I think Titus is a reasonable target for a town battler here. If it was against someone widely townread I might agree with you, but it's not.

I am under the impression it is not true that everyone is able to initiate battles.

Well I can't initiate battles so yeah. As far as I understand it.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: kittytacky
Feels like a good place to start today

I'm not scum.

[Save The Dragons]

Why did you pick me in particular? I'm not the Sebille-whisperer.

Outside Save The Dragons (who I've little trust to be town rn), you're the closest the game's got.

I dislike having lengthy conversations about my identity. This is an alt of Cephrir. I am using a different playstyle on purpose. I would prefer not to go into it any more than I have to, as I find the topic tiresome and irritating.

[SirCakez]

I could just be wrong and Rathe is scum too, I just think scum were pushing Rathe, and would like to continue doing so.


Magical Girl was effectively a no info fade, and we dont get a lot of wagonomics from it, which is why I believe that wagon is scum heavy.

LLD could be town, but if LLD is town, scum helped move that wagon along.

Ok and Magical Girl was a no info fade scum heavy wagon launched as a counter to....

we dont have to know who it was a counter to to be a counter. There were 5 primary wagons that I listed out, and MG was not one of them.

I don't agree, I think of all the wagons yesterday the only one that was actually close to getting through was Rathe, nothing else crossed four or five votes. I wasn't around for like a day and came back and MG was like at L-3. It seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Four or Five is exactly what it should look like.

I don't understand how this would work

[Ranger]

Why did you pick me in particular? I'm not the Sebille-whisperer.

Outside Save The Dragons (who I've little trust to be town rn), you're the closest the game's got.

I dislike having lengthy conversations about my identity. This is an alt of Cephrir. I am using a different playstyle on purpose. I would prefer not to go into it any more than I have to, as I find the topic tiresome and irritating.

Oops.
It slipped my mind

at the time

.
From a glance, it apparently makes little difference. As far as I see, Chandra didn't have LLD as town. Might've missed it.

Speaking of Chandra though, I recall you being fairly quiet about her.

[SirCakez]

aaaa behind behind behind

[SirCakez]

All it would have taken was one wagon to dissolve onto another, but instead, it was spread out, meaning scum was probably spread out, and no more than 1 scum bussed at the same time likely.

okay nvm I should have read one more page

[SirCakez]

Black (4) Rathe, Not_Mafia, Flavor Leaf, Klick

If Rathe is town, this is most likely a ScumBlack world.

Black (4) Rathe, Not_Mafia, Flavor Leaf, Klick

If Rathe is town, this is most likely a ScumBlack world.

Also thinking this
That wagon is pureeeee

This makes sense to me and these are two of my stronger TRs sooo consider me on board for this.