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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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You think it's silly but you agree with me that your play has been different this game and you're trying harder?In post 724, Invisibility wrote:
it wasn't a defense cuz I think your meta read is just silly LOL. Sure you could argue that I'm trying too hard but I don't think merely being more productive justifies that claim enough.In post 722, Black wrote:
Ok. This doesn't really make me feel any better about you but I appreciate the contextIn post 718, Invisibility wrote: bruh
maybe I am doing more though cuz I started using confessional PTs again. Otherwise I would just like, forget things-
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mmmmm not me opening the Uber eats app...In post 725, Invisibility wrote: kentucky kentucky fried chicken-
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Asri Teroka Goon
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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I'm thinking about a world if you're town? I'm still voting for youIn post 719, Black wrote:
Why are you suddenly approaching the game as if your top two scumreads are town? I know you say you're trying to re-evaluate but this just feels like an extreme that I wasn't really expectingIn post 717, Ausuka wrote: If cook is town I probably feel better about fire too
I'm saying that if you were town I'd have nowhere to look
You're suspicious of me but you trust my opinion on Katy? Cook's AtE is enough to completely reverse your scumread? Something doesn't feel rightNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Compelling argument!
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Ok but in a world where I'm town, why would Cook be town?In post 729, Ausuka wrote: I'm thinking about a world if you're town? I'm still voting for you-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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I think I'm trying just as hard. I didn't notice that my play was different either, but I could see why that might be the case. I meant that arguing from the angle that I was trying too hard could be reasonable if it were justified with more justifiable justifications. I don't see why any of this makes it inconsistent for me to think it's sillyIn post 726, Black wrote:
You think it's silly but you agree with me that your play has been different this game and you're trying harder?In post 724, Invisibility wrote:
it wasn't a defense cuz I think your meta read is just silly LOL. Sure you could argue that I'm trying too hard but I don't think merely being more productive justifies that claim enough.In post 722, Black wrote:
Ok. This doesn't really make me feel any better about you but I appreciate the contextIn post 718, Invisibility wrote: bruh
maybe I am doing more though cuz I started using confessional PTs again. Otherwise I would just like, forget thingsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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your argument feels like "Vizzy is wearing a purple hat when she usually wears a green one. She must be scum". And note that it is entirely within my abilities to wear differently colored hatsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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or at least I believe it to be. Ok wait nvm this metaphor sucks. You haven't adequately argued why an increased amount of productivity suggests I'm scum. Just because I agree that my play might be different doesn't mean I have to agree that it's scummy or whateverIn post 734, Invisibility wrote: your argument feels like "Vizzy is wearing a purple hat when she usually wears a green one. She must be scum". And note that it is entirely within my abilities to wear differently colored hatsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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"maybe I'm doing more"
"being more productive"
"I think I'm trying just as hard, I didn't notice that my play was different"
If you don't think your play is that different then why didn't you just lead with that instead of trying to justify why it might be different?
I don't really put too much stock into meta reads. It's mostly gut why I think scum!Invis would try harder than town!Invis-
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the fact that italianovd is getting away w/ smth this outrageous is really annoyingiavh is slightly annoyed-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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didn't say this lolIn post 736, Black wrote: If you don't think your play is that differentInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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I said I didn't notice it, but I realized why it might be the caseInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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This is a bad representation of my argument. My meta read is only part of my scumread on you. I definitely don't think a change in playstyle is enough by itself to think someone is scumIn post 734, Invisibility wrote: your argument feels like "Vizzy is wearing a purple hat when she usually wears a green one. She must be scum". And note that it is entirely within my abilities to wear differently colored hats-
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???In post 737, iamveryhappy wrote: the fact that italianovd is getting away w/ smth this outrageous is really annoying
Are you talking about the mason claim? That's not really all that scummy in a vacuum-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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That's not necessarily the case I was just re thinking about the game in general which includes both of youIn post 732, Black wrote:
Ok but in a world where I'm town, why would Cook be town?In post 729, Ausuka wrote: I'm thinking about a world if you're town? I'm still voting for youNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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yeah I know there's the Fire thing (also I agree it is a bad representation LOL. It did not convey the message I wanted to convey) Do you have any other reasons?In post 740, Black wrote:
This is a bad representation of my argument. My meta read is only part of my scumread on you. I definitely don't think a change in playstyle is enough by itself to think someone is scumIn post 734, Invisibility wrote: your argument feels like "Vizzy is wearing a purple hat when she usually wears a green one. She must be scum". And note that it is entirely within my abilities to wear differently colored hatsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Then I guess I'm just misunderstanding you. I'm sorryIn post 738, Invisibility wrote:
didn't say this lolIn post 736, Black wrote: If you don't think your play is that different-
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Asri Teroka Goon
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These are hedge reads
Fire: Obvious town. Ausuka is dubious, Black needs them.In post 686, Black wrote: {Fire, Asri, HPE, happy} these are my strongest townreads. I kinda want to townread Katy too
Asri: This one didn't expect this. Black is dodging things with this townread. Asri probably here to either lower suspicion or have an excuse to dodge discussions.
HPE: Something might be up here
Happy: Maybe also here but far less likely than Erynis by this one's current instincts.
Katy: Probably town, here to gain vote support.
SS: Total null.In post 686, Black wrote: {Something_Smart, Hu Tao, T3} these players are in my blind spot and I want more from them
Hu Tao: Has been weird around the few topics approached perhaps. Can be aligned with Black.
T3: First vote on Black. Black did try to draw out more info but T3 is yet to talk. Probably here in hopes the Black vote changes, keeping T3 in the middle with other low posts slots makes it so that Black can either sus or sheep depending on future T3 actions.
Cook: High chance of being a partnerIn post 686, Black wrote: {Cook, Italiano} these players are pretty null to me. I moved Italiano up a little because I kinda like his responses and reaction to pressure
Italiano: Not much said here. Italiano is a contender to the cook wagon so good to keep them as an option but not be obvious about it. Cook just a null read here but Italiano 'a bit up' suggesting there's Cook and Black distancing going on.
Nope. Invisibility is pretty much town and Ausuka also. As before, not liking this.In post 686, Black wrote: {Ausuka, Invisibility} these players are the scummiest to me and I can even see this being the solve. It's probably not that easy though
Scum push on Aus and Invis, to undermine them, because they're playing good.
Scum list.
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Asri Teroka Goon
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Expand.In post 737, iamveryhappy wrote: the fact that italianovd is getting away w/ smth this outrageous is really annoying-
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oh ok well let me try to put it in a unified and sensical way. I think I am prone to making no senseIn post 744, Black wrote:
Then I guess I'm just misunderstanding you. I'm sorryIn post 738, Invisibility wrote:
didn't say this lolIn post 736, Black wrote: If you don't think your play is that different
I didn't notice any difference in my playstyle myself, but I understood why that might be the case. I don't think your claim is strong enough to demonstrate anything AIInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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what made you think I thought this was your entire read?In post 740, Black wrote: My meta read is only part of my scumread on you.Invisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Invisibility he or sheJack of All Tradeshe or she
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is this all you care about nowIn post 737, iamveryhappy wrote: the fact that italianovd is getting away w/ smth this outrageous is really annoyingInvisibility is actually AWESOME!
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