Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]
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KatyKimFanClub he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I haven't really expressed any of my own opinions for the last 20 pages or so. Figured I'd actually try starting now.
Kyoko vs. Ranger reads like TvT but to be honest I didn't read the second half of it and I have no interest in ever reading it. I think Ranger is town though because I don't most of the arguments that I did read about him signaling or doing anything. I'm also not sure if Ranger does the readslist every game but this seems something that will be pretty hard to explain in an endgame if Ranger gets there, so I don't think there's any sort of pressure to vote Ranger now. This same logic holds for Kyoko honestly. usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town? Could explain relative lack of activity from some people if they're just watching a town implode though.
Honestly getting scum vibes from Random Nurse? I kind of just want them to iso someone and ignore everything else so we can get some more content going.
Presumably Titus does not scumread me as much as she wants to policy Rauth, but I am interested if there's been any progression in her reads on me since 510?
Two different people say this is what town Drew does so whatever I'm over it gameplay wise (emotionally I am not).
Rauth has had multiple instances where they seemed to not really care about their own survival which seems pretty town ngl.-
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usesPython They/ThemMafia ScumThey/Them
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Why is it confusing for us to side with the person getting shitpushed for the past 15 pages?In post 1250, KatyKimFanClub wrote: usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Err, I don't think the move is confusing. It actually makes a lot of sense. But part of my brain just thinks it would be weird if all three of you flipped town? Like to what extent is this level of disagreement normal.In post 1251, usesPython wrote:
Why is it confusing for us to side with the person getting shitpushed for the past 15 pages?In post 1250, KatyKimFanClub wrote: usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town?-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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Emotionally what?
Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.
Titus is hard town.
Merlyn, do better.
Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Wait what's the Abdeg case?In post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Abdeg and Katy are prob scumPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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usesPython They/ThemMafia ScumThey/Them
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unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvmPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lolIn post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Emotionally what?
Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.
Titus is hard town.
Merlyn, do better.
Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.-
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In post 1254, usesPython wrote:
Wait what's the Abdeg case?In post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Abdeg and Katy are prob scum
A bit vibey, and yes involves that.In post 1255, usesPython wrote: unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvm'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Start doing better and change my mind.In post 1256, Merlyn wrote:
I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lolIn post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Emotionally what?
Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.
Titus is hard town.
Merlyn, do better.
Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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I don't have any inclination to try and change your mind rnIn post 1258, Doctor Drew wrote:
Start doing better and change my mind.In post 1256, Merlyn wrote:
I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lolIn post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Emotionally what?
Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.
Titus is hard town.
Merlyn, do better.
Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.-
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I couldn't help it, was remembering a recent normal game Theta was in where there was a Lazy Traitor. It confused the heck out of town.In post 1244, usesPython wrote:
Oh my fucking god why are you still doing thisIn post 1218, Rautherdir wrote:
(Unless they're a Lazy Traitor)In post 1190, usesPython wrote:
No actuallyIn post 1189, Aureal wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding how a traitor works?? A Mafia traitor is still Mafia and needs to be eliminated for town to win, right??
A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:- is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
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sheepsaysmeep heJack of All Tradeshe
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the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it-
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It's the same 3 arguments repeated for 15 pages so yeah you're probably rightIn post 1261, sheepsaysmeep wrote: the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth itPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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oh, fully agreed, but I'm told the solution is to 'do better' sheepIn post 1262, usesPython wrote:
It's the same 3 arguments repeated for 15 pages so yeah you're probably rightIn post 1261, sheepsaysmeep wrote: the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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I mean if everyone just doesn't read and therefore doesn't contribute anything, then yeah the people who are reading and discussing things are going to end up continuing arguments.
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I have literally never seen a scumteam intentionally coordinate for pagetops. I thought you were joking when you said thatIn post 1257, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 1254, usesPython wrote:
Wait what's the Abdeg case?In post 1253, Doctor Drew wrote: Abdeg and Katy are prob scum
A bit vibey, and yes involves that.In post 1255, usesPython wrote: unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvm-
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so i've finally figured out what i think about thedrewpuns and the nightmare placement, but it is unfortunately a very boring conclusion.
the puns are probably just puns. even if it looks like signaling, it's a reach to speculate that a very specific 3p role (or a scum traitor) both exists and would signal in such an obvious-looking way. the way it was done just seems like it was bound to get noticed by more people than just the intended target.
i still think drew being placed in the nightmare is +town for him. we've established it's most likely a scum ability, and i really don't think scum would be that desperate to get their partner in there that early, to the point that it would be worth drawing all that attention there. unless we're in multiball, in which case the solution is to read him off his play, and i read him as town right now so nothing changes. perhaps it was just done to sow conflict and suspicion, it did a pretty good job creating a bunch of (imo) useless arguing.
i am sympathetic to the idea that scum is letting the town eat itself. that could be a lot of people though.
still have no clue who to vote, but i liked this answer from ranger so i will probably just sheep it for the time being.
VOTE: merlynIn post 1071, Ranger wrote:
Sure. Merlyn is THE slot I'm talking about in exploiting Radical Rat. It doesn't display well in iso, yet most of her content is directly reflective of what RR's discussing at the time. Merlyn's given no content I've thought town, looks like scum, and has taken stances which I feel are taking advantage of town accusing town. Merlyn's contributions have been lackluster, and when the town's had its more lighthearted moments, Merlyn's contributions to them has felt forced. Both her hop onto Rauth as well as her hop off Rauth were suspect.In post 991, Abnegation wrote:did you ever talk about that merlyn sr? if not, could you?
do better. (sorry, that was mean)Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
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VOTE: merlyn
do worse (also how many votes on Merlyn rn?)Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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3. aureal, myself, and you.
Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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I could definitely be persuaded on Merlyn, I agree that she seemed to be trying to pocket me somewhat, but I do think we should prioritize locking in a Nightmare team before it gets too late-
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I'd be OK with voting Merlyn, considering she ignored my question and follow up directed towards her.-
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i know for certain i want the following 5 people in: abnegation, aureal, radical rat, usespython, doctor drew. i can be flexible about the remaining two or three.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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My main stipulation is Not Ranger, and not Rauth. I'd also still prefer we boot out Drew, but no one else really seems to care so I'm probably not getting my way on that one-
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is there an earlier deadline for thatIn post 1269, Radical Rat wrote: I could definitely be persuaded on Merlyn, I agree that she seemed to be trying to pocket me somewhat, but I do think we should prioritize locking in a Nightmare team before it gets too late-
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i agree on not rauth and i can understand not ranger. would you consider re-voting your old proposal (not sure whose proposal it is now) of the 5 i mentioned + de70 and titus?In post 1272, Radical Rat wrote: My main stipulation is Not Ranger, and not Rauth. I'd also still prefer we boot out Drew, but no one else really seems to care so I'm probably not getting my way on that oneShowlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
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