Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[KatyKimFanClub]

I haven't really expressed any of my own opinions for the last 20 pages or so. Figured I'd actually try starting now.
Kyoko vs. Ranger reads like TvT but to be honest I didn't read the second half of it and I have no interest in ever reading it. I think Ranger is town though because I don't most of the arguments that I did read about him signaling or doing anything. I'm also not sure if Ranger does the readslist every game but this seems something that will be pretty hard to explain in an endgame if Ranger gets there, so I don't think there's any sort of pressure to vote Ranger now. This same logic holds for Kyoko honestly. usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town? Could explain relative lack of activity from some people if they're just watching a town implode though.

Honestly getting scum vibes from Random Nurse? I kind of just want them to iso someone and ignore everything else so we can get some more content going.

Presumably Titus does not scumread me as much as she wants to policy Rauth, but I am interested if there's been any progression in her reads on me since 510?

Two different people say this is what town Drew does so whatever I'm over it gameplay wise (emotionally I am not).

Rauth has had multiple instances where they seemed to not really care about their own survival which seems pretty town ngl.

[usesPython]

usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town?

Why is it confusing for us to side with the person getting shitpushed for the past 15 pages?

[KatyKimFanClub]

usesPython siding with Ranger here is confusing because I don't know if all three are town?

Why is it confusing for us to side with the person getting shitpushed for the past 15 pages?

Err, I don't think the move is confusing. It actually makes a lot of sense. But part of my brain just thinks it would be weird if all three of you flipped town? Like to what extent is this level of disagreement normal.

[Doctor Drew]

Emotionally what?

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.

Titus is hard town.

Merlyn, do better.

Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.

[usesPython]

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum

Wait what's the Abdeg case?

[usesPython]

unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvm

[Merlyn]

Emotionally what?

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.

Titus is hard town.

Merlyn, do better.

Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.

I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lol

[Doctor Drew]

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum

Wait what's the Abdeg case?

unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvm

A bit vibey, and yes involves that.

[Doctor Drew]

Emotionally what?

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.

Titus is hard town.

Merlyn, do better.

Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.

I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lol

Start doing better and change my mind.

[Merlyn]

Emotionally what?

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum, Rauth to a lesser degree.

Titus is hard town.

Merlyn, do better.

Still enjoying being in Ranger's pocket for the time being.

I literally think all of your reads are prob wrong lol

Start doing better and change my mind.

I don't have any inclination to try and change your mind rn

[Rautherdir]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how a traitor works?? A Mafia traitor is still Mafia and needs to be eliminated for town to win, right??

No actually

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

• is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead

(Unless they're a Lazy Traitor)

Oh my fucking god why are you still doing this

I couldn't help it, was remembering a recent normal game Theta was in where there was a Lazy Traitor. It confused the heck out of town.

[sheepsaysmeep]

the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it

[usesPython]

the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it

It's the same 3 arguments repeated for 15 pages so yeah you're probably right

[Merlyn]

the stuff I see every time I check the thread makes me think fully reading the last 15 pages isnt worth it

It's the same 3 arguments repeated for 15 pages so yeah you're probably right

oh, fully agreed, but I'm told the solution is to 'do better' sheep

[Radical Rat]

I mean if everyone just doesn't read and therefore doesn't contribute anything, then yeah the people who are reading and discussing things are going to end up continuing arguments.

Be the change you want to see.

[Radical Rat]

Abdeg and Katy are prob scum

Wait what's the Abdeg case?

unless you're talking about the pagetop in which case nvm

A bit vibey, and yes involves that.

I have literally never seen a scumteam intentionally coordinate for pagetops. I thought you were joking when you said that

[Abnegation]

so i've finally figured out what i think about the

drew

puns and the nightmare placement, but it is unfortunately a very boring conclusion.
the puns are probably just puns. even if it looks like signaling, it's a reach to speculate that a very specific 3p role (or a scum traitor) both exists and would signal in such an obvious-looking way. the way it was done just seems like it was bound to get noticed by more people than just the intended target.
i still think drew being placed in the nightmare is +town for him. we've established it's most likely a scum ability, and i really don't think scum would be that desperate to get their partner in there that early, to the point that it would be worth drawing all that attention there. unless we're in multiball, in which case the solution is to read him off his play, and i read him as town right now so nothing changes. perhaps it was just done to sow conflict and suspicion, it did a pretty good job creating a bunch of (imo) useless arguing.
i am sympathetic to the idea that scum is letting the town eat itself. that could be a lot of people though.
still have no clue who to vote, but i liked this answer from ranger so i will probably just sheep it for the time being.

did you ever talk about that merlyn sr? if not, could you?

Sure. Merlyn is THE slot I'm talking about in exploiting Radical Rat. It doesn't display well in iso, yet most of her content is directly reflective of what RR's discussing at the time. Merlyn's given no content I've thought town, looks like scum, and has taken stances which I feel are taking advantage of town accusing town. Merlyn's contributions have been lackluster, and when the town's had its more lighthearted moments, Merlyn's contributions to them has felt forced. Both her hop onto Rauth as well as her hop off Rauth were suspect.

VOTE: merlyn

do better. (sorry, that was mean)

[usesPython]

VOTE: merlyn

do worse (also how many votes on Merlyn rn?)

[Abnegation]

VOTE: merlyn

do worse (also how many votes on Merlyn rn?)

3. aureal, myself, and you.

[Radical Rat]

I could definitely be persuaded on Merlyn, I agree that she seemed to be trying to pocket me somewhat, but I do think we should prioritize locking in a Nightmare team before it gets too late

[Random Nurse]

I'd be OK with voting Merlyn, considering she ignored my question and follow up directed towards her.

[Abnegation]

i know for certain i want the following 5 people in: abnegation, aureal, radical rat, usespython, doctor drew. i can be flexible about the remaining two or three.

[Radical Rat]

My main stipulation is Not Ranger, and not Rauth. I'd also still prefer we boot out Drew, but no one else really seems to care so I'm probably not getting my way on that one

[sheepsaysmeep]

I could definitely be persuaded on Merlyn, I agree that she seemed to be trying to pocket me somewhat, but I do think we should prioritize locking in a Nightmare team before it gets too late

is there an earlier deadline for that

[Abnegation]

My main stipulation is Not Ranger, and not Rauth. I'd also still prefer we boot out Drew, but no one else really seems to care so I'm probably not getting my way on that one

i agree on not rauth and i can understand not ranger. would you consider re-voting your old proposal (not sure whose proposal it is now) of the 5 i mentioned + de70 and titus?