Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Korina]

VC 1.23

WhemeStar (5):

sheepsaysmeep, usesPython, Aureal, KatyKimFanClub, camelCasedSnivy

Merlyn (4):

Abnegation, Radical Rat, Ranger, Save The Dragons

Ranger (3):

Kyoko Kirigiri, Doctor Drew, Merlyn

Rauthedir (2):

DragonEater70, Titus

KatyKimFanClub (1):

WhemeStar

Abnegation (0):

DragonEater70 (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

camelCasedSnivy (0):

Aureal (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

sheepsaysmeep (0):

Random Nurse (0):

usesPython (0):

Save the Dragons (0):

Radical Rat (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Titus (0):

Flea the Magician (0):

Not Voting (4):

Flea the Magician, Morning Tweet, Random Nurse, Rautherdir

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-07-17 00:30:00)

Moderator Notes:

- Ranger is V/LA every Sunday/Monday for July.
- DragonEater70 is V/LA until Thursday.
- KatyKimFanClub is V/LA until Wednesday.
- Kyoko Kirigiri is V/LA every Sunday thru Tuesday.

Nightmare

Ranger's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, Radical Rat, usesPython, Abnegation, sheepsaysmeep, Ranger, Titus] (7, E-3!):

Ranger, usesPython, camelCasedSnivy, Rautherdir, Radical Rat, Abnegation, Save The Dragons

Random Nurse's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, anger, Radical Rat, usesPython, Titus, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub] (1):

Random Nurse

DragonEater70's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, DragonEater70, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, Titus] (1):

DragonEater70

KatyKimFanClub's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, KatyKimFanClub, usesPython, Radical Rat, Ranger, Morning Tweet, Random Nurse] (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Merlyn's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, Radical Rat, usesPython, Rautherdir, Aureal, Abnegation, Merlyn] (1):

Merlyn

Morning Tweet's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, usesPython, Ranger, Titus, Abnegation, Aureal, Rautherdir] (1):

Morning Tweet

Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal: [

Doctor Drew

, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, camelCasedSnivy, Save the Dragons, Radical Rat] (1):

Kyoko Kirigiri

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.

Doctor Drew is confirmed.

Spoiler: Pronouns

Pronoun Key

Later

Spoiler: Votes I'm Mentioning For Some Reason (EMPTY)

Empty

[Aureal]

HURT: Doctor Drew, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, camelCasedSnivy, Save the Dragons, Radical Rat

ugh, i like this proposal better but i think we're pretty much locked into the other one.

I like that lineup much better as well, and would vote it in a second if we had the numbers for it.

I will third a preference for this lineup. I've been trying to calculate preferences based on what people have said since I asked. Python's calculations in 1493 actually don't include my rankings. I'm not sure why Python decided that my rankings shouldn't be counted.

I included Morning Tweet's proposal vote as a point for everyone in it, since she posted since I asked, and didn't do half-points.



That puts Python, Rat, Abnegation, Save the Dragons, and the confirmed Drew in, and the last two spots a four-way tie of 2 points between Aureal, Ranger, Titus, KKFC.

[Abnegation]

that makes four of us so i'm going to do it. i can switch back to the other one if necessary.

HURT: kyoko kirigiri's proposal

[Radical Rat]

I don't think switching is a good idea yet. If we can get a verbal commitment on it from more than the seven we already have, I'll move then.

But as it is now, splitting the vote effectively just means scum can take their pick last second.

[Aureal]

Okay, I guess that's actually fourth, not third, since two of you are agreeing with Kyoko's proposal, yeah. All of the people on Kyoko's proposal are in the positive range so I feel it's broadly acceptable. It just bumps one of the four tied people for camel instead, who was just one point lower anyhow, and isn't in anyone's NO list, unlike the rest of us who aren't top-three.

There are no hurt tag buttons. Manually typing tags, ugh.

HURT: Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal

[sheepsaysmeep]

I don't think switching is a good idea yet. If we can get a verbal commitment on it from more than the seven we already have, I'll move then.

But as it is now, splitting the vote effectively just means scum can take their pick last second.

I think this person is insanely villagery and will probably just sheep them for as long as im kinda busy

[sheepsaysmeep]

I potentially think rauthedir is scummy, I think the mech talk covering up for otherwise straight up struggling to produce solving is just kinda more likely wolf

[usesPython]

Me: I think some of the people on my wagon are scum

Two of the people on my wagon: TELL US WHO RIGHT NOW ITS NOT TOWN TO NOT TELL

You are literally at E-3 with no counterwagon, but fine whatever we still gave you a chance to work a town mindset by figuring out why we're voting Wheme

Okay, I find someone sus and ask all of you to guess for points then

All right, I'll play- is it bc they keep waffling about sheeping ranger?

Timestamps imply 9 minutes spent trying to figure this out, also no, also also implies you didn't iso us to see what we'd find sus in this gamestate:

• We wanted a low-poster dead -> implies we think lurking is scum indicative
  
• The hint was you and DragonEater70 should have an easier time figuring it out -> implies it's somehow related to the three of you

The actual answer is that WhemeStar had cross-site activity during key points in this game that they lurked through, namely the Kirigiri/Ranger 1v1 where they were playing Codenames with you and Dragon. Yes they did declare V/LA but they were able to play Codenames every day while their only contribution to this game at the time was

Hi I’m still basically Vla but I was like fck it ima just sheep Ranger but they’ve been voting the same person since post #1 and that’s kinda Sussy to me Ranger

Anyways you failed the reaction test rn by not being townie enough

VOTE: Merlyn

[usesPython]

I will third a preference for this lineup. I've been trying to calculate preferences based on what people have said since I asked. Python's calculations in 1493 actually don't include my rankings. I'm not sure why Python decided that my rankings shouldn't be counted.

We missed your post

[usesPython]

The problem with democracy is that I don't get what I personally want B(

[usesPython]

and didn't do half-points.

Half points are good since there should be a difference between hard and soft no's/yes's, the spreadsheet has me motivated to do an even more granular ranked voting list though

[WhemeStar]

Python what if I told you

I did not read the Ranger 1v1

[usesPython]

Golf rules, lower is better. Drew's excluded since there doesn't seem to be enough support for a Drew lim for it to matter and Morning Tweet's list is excluded because this only works if people are ranking everyone. Done by grouping people in tiers based on the amount of people in the tiers before that

Spoiler: e.g.

Yes: Radical Rat, usesPython, sheepsaysmeep

Prob: DragonEater70, Ranger, Morning Tweet, Doctor Drew, camelCasedSnivy, Abnegation. as well as Aureal I think her response to me was gut villagery idk lol

could compromise if necessary: Save The Dragons, Kyoko Kirigirl

Not rly interested in including: Random Nurse, KatyKimFanClub, Titus, Flea The Magician, WhemeStar, Rautherdir, Merlyn

RR, Python, sheep are all in the highest tier so they're 1st, then since there's 3 people in the highest tier everyone in the next highest tier (DE70, Ranger, etc.) is 4th, etc.

Leaves a nightmare of Doctor Drew, Radical Rat, usesPython, Abnegation, Titus, Save The Dragons, sheepsaysmeep

[sheepsaysmeep]

I dislike the difference of swapping ranger for STD; for like, aureal, dragon, camel, tweet, could all have felt better to me. but wtevs I will do literally whatever usespython says and just hope they are not a wolf probably

[usesPython]

Hey people who haven't made a list yet, go put Ranger in your yes pile

[sheepsaysmeep]

I am roughly ready to hammer stuff whenever u are tho

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think merlyn has some stuff about her wagon that hs to be resolved. particularly the "I'd like to be limmed" even if I felt iffy before

[sheepsaysmeep]

I still do think wheme is legit scummy tho. prob more than most people do. not just a fun dandy counterwagon

[usesPython]

I actually don't get why Titus is this widely TR'd

HURT: Doctor Drew, usesPython, Radical Rat, Abnegation, sheepsaysmeep, Ranger, Rautherdir

I still do think wheme is legit scummy tho. prob more than most people do. not just a fun dandy counterwagon

Yeah I think both are probably scum

[sheepsaysmeep]

That is something I had been thinking about Titus too so I am going to fully hardlock you as town again good chat

[usesPython]

Also RR your Ranger SR makes a critical assumption that I don't think is necessarily true, but it's also -EV to point out the error so that's all I'll say about it

[usesPython]

RR can you explain your sheep sr to me? You don't like 650 but he thought you were town outside of that in 661?

[Radical Rat]

Also RR your Ranger SR makes a critical assumption that I don't think is necessarily true, but it's also -EV to point out the error so that's all I'll say about it

My list of Nightmare preferences isn't the same as a readslist. I recognize my arguments for Ranger are hinging on a specific scenario I cannot prove, and have oscillated a lot on whether I believe it myself, and I agree with her arguments in the Kyoko fight that Drew makes more sense to resolve first, however I ALSO know that if there's a disagreement, Ranger is going to be one of the most difficult people to argue with about it, and if she's scum, she's one of the ones I think could successfully leverage a nightmare presence to her advantage.

Basically I'm willing to give her leeway for now, but if I do happen to be right on her, I do not want to be stuck all night fighting with her arguing in bad faith.

[Radical Rat]

RR can you explain your sheep sr to me? You don't like 650 but he thought you were town outside of that in 661?

It was a very strong gut reaction to being told me putting in effort and trying to solve a game is "wolfily pointless," combined with a relatively lackluster slot overall. Also worth noting that while sheep did drop it pretty quick, Drew ran with it a bit longer.

[usesPython]

RR can you explain your sheep sr to me? You don't like 650 but he thought you were town outside of that in 661?

It was a very strong gut reaction to being told me putting in effort and trying to solve a game is "wolfily pointless," combined with a relatively lackluster slot overall. Also worth noting that while sheep did drop it pretty quick, Drew ran with it a bit longer.

The wolfily pointless part was you asking Ranger straight up if she did it, because realistically speaking she was either going to say "no" regardless of alignment or say "I'm not answering" regardless of alignment. I think it's a fair thing to point out