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[ChicagoTypewriter]

Wdym by 'cats paw'

Acting under orders, basically.

[T3]

kinda wish people pushing me like this was more of an alignment delineating thing but alas

Exactlyyy

medeia being pushed for what I think is how they play sucks to read

I don’t know medeia, so how would I know how she plays?

we have played together before in gamma emerald mini normal i had to replace out of as inutile and ydrasse music themed mini normal as shiki and pooky’s dead silence game as thana

I knew you were shiki but I don’t really remember your playstyle. For some reason I was under the impression that you usually post 1/2/3-liners but then I realized that my memory was bad so I wasn’t sure.

[T3]

Fair 'nuff.

Also, can we acknowledge that T3 has been lurking despite being scumread and has given basically no response to that at all? Just wanted to put that out there. (And, yes, I've been lurking too, but I'm trying to do something about that now.)

I don’t really know what there is to respond to for the scumreads on me.

[T3]

I understand why people scumread me for the Kcdaspot vote and unvote and I have been pushing the game to the back of my mind and doing other stuff.

[T3]

There's like multiple telling you that tho

I expressed my scumread of medeia before anyone talked about meta or anything. When I read through the demona game I noticed some differences, in this game I noticed that medeia often used language like “I guess” moreso than in the demona game.

wait is this even true? ctrl+f 'guess' found 63 results in inutile game iso and 59 results in demona game iso and 20 results here so far

I didn’t read through the inutile game but there have been 15 or so pages this game but 60 in the demona game. There is a difference but not by much. I do feel like I’m a bit tunneled on you tbh

[T3]

T3 are you willing to vote chicago or meuh
Meuh are you willing to vote t3 or chicago
Chicago are you willing to vote meuh or t3?

I’d prefer Chicago over Meuh but I’d be willing to vote both.

[skitter30]

T3 wdyt abt the votes on you

[Invisibility]

VC 1.09

medeia (1): Random Nurse
Random Nurse (1): PookyTheMagicalBear
ChicagoTypewriter (1): skitter30
Meuh (1): ceejayvinoya
T3 (2): Meuh, ChicagoTypewriter

Not voting: T3, medeia, Kcdaspot

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate someone. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-17 14:12:57).

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

skitter who do you wanna kill again i forgot my memory is bad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also it feels like joker dude straight up ghosted us

[skitter30]

Probably in t3/meuh/chicago

[skitter30]

skitter who do you wanna kill again i forgot my memory is bad

Hbu

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i kinda wanna yeet meuh but I'm flexible

[Meuh]

rude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you bus your partner I won't kill you today

[Meuh]

I can't vote for T3 twice

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

big if true

[medeia]

response to kcdaspot post, spoiled for length

Spoiler:

Page 1: i'm reminded why I hated med's entrance. That was just not the correct question at all. probably woulda been better just to partake in RVS at the time. everything else is just RVS and greetings med takes up most of the content for this page.

i generally do not partake in rvs - it is boring to me and it very seldomly results in sortable content and the last time i did one of my favourite players ended up self-hammering in post 18 - so the less time players spend in rvs the better to me

like i asked skitter a question which sure maybe not the 'correct question' but i do not really think there was a correct question in that situation and that's the one that was on my mind, then you commented on my doing so and such, that is how the game works, what would have possibly been gained by my simply voting someone instead?, why did you think town!me might have been more likely to partake in rvs?, et cetera

like with many things this just feels like criticism of me the person/player to me, and it is kinda hard for me to see why you thought it might be having to do with my alignment

and yet again why use so many words? this is play by post ffs you can slow down and put everything in one post med. that panic still looks real to me so im hoping to gleam a understanding of you game style here so i can make my mind up about you. again, just because you did something in THAT game as town doesn't mean you would or wouldnt do that as scum here.

okay but yet again, why do you think this has anything to do with my alignment? like do you really think town!me doesn't use so many words and scum!me does for some reason? it wasn't panic - like was i posting from a heightened emotional state? somewhat yeah, but it wasn't like, 'oh no i am scum and being scumread whatever will i do!' ya know, like i was being scumread by multiple players for personality traits and i was trying to determine why you and others thought they were scummy, like if you would walk me through the thought process there

because! i am frequently pushed like that by both alignments - scums unfamiliar with me very often push me like that because they think 'ah she is

~weird~

and defensive i can push this' and towns unfamiliar with me often push me like that because they incorrectly correlate differences in approach/playstyle to differences in alignment, and then sometimes towns familiar with me push me because they think they can read my reactions to it like ame used to but that's irrelevant in this case

so i was trying to determine which was more likely and the literal only way i know how to do so is by engaging you about it as i attempted to do and then you just doubled down and scumread that too without actually explaining to me why you thought my behaviour was likely coming from a scums like it felt like you just wanted to push me not actually sort me, as it went from 'question about rvs scummy' to 'trying to work from limited information scummy' to 'reaction also scummy' all while you were refusing to look at any of my other games or to walk me through why you were viewing things the way you were like how you reached the conclusion that it was scummy rather than personality

and yeah i got frustrated and i shouldn't i get it that's on me

and with regards to the meta, at absolutely no point was i (or anyone else as far as i remember) ever trying to say 'i am town here because i was town there' or anything even remotely along those lines

i am absolutely fine with you assuming that my range is infinite and that i have an encyclopedic knowledge of my own meta or whatever, it makes sense for you to ignore the meta in that regard if you wish to view me that way

but your read of me from my perspective was basically

'you're anxious and i don't like your approach to the game or the way you post and therefore you are scum'

and it's like, no that's who i am as you can obviously see from these games i have played recently played

like this is reductive but if you said,

'you are scummy because you don't often capitalize'

and i said

'that is common for me across all games see:'

and you said 'i don't meta that's scum behaviour to me just because you didn't capitalize in that game as town doesn't mean you aren't not capitalizing here as scum'

it wouldn't be all that dissimilar to me to this

which is like ???

like yes i am me and aware of me, given

but why does that make it scummy and not just my personality/posting style and such,

like some of your push isn't even related to the game of mafia to me like most of your criticisms in this post are like ??? like i often respond to discord or text messages with multiple successive messages too i am probably not scum there

like i get it if you're town here you obviously don't like the way i play (or maybe simply the way i post) which is fine and i am often iterating and will take your criticisms under advisement for future mes, though it is pretty hard to discuss that sort of thing during the game because of unknown alignments like i really don't feel like explaining how i have come to type the way i type to then find out you are mafia simply pushing me to waste my time and look like you're doing something

but it is what it is and while i am open to the criticism (i spent time in preview to make this all one post and am trying to take a step back here because i feel like maybe my presence here is overbearing and making people not want to post) i still don't see why you think any of the above is related to my alignment

Let me do a part 2 later.

you can just assume i am town for the purposes of the rest of this project - i am still interested in thoughts on other slots/the rest of the ongoings of the game but would rather you just get back to the present quicker rather than focusing on me further like i don't really think you need to sort me right now if you're town

[medeia]

Wdym by 'cats paw'

Acting under orders, basically.

tirer marrons du feu

[medeia]

There's like multiple telling you that tho

I expressed my scumread of medeia before anyone talked about meta or anything. When I read through the demona game I noticed some differences, in this game I noticed that medeia often used language like “I guess” moreso than in the demona game.

wait is this even true? ctrl+f 'guess' found 63 results in inutile game iso and 59 results in demona game iso and 20 results here so far

I didn’t read through the inutile game but there have been 15 or so pages this game but 60 in the demona game. There is a difference but not by much. I do feel like I’m a bit tunneled on you tbh

i was killed night 1 of the demona game but i don't really see how this was relevant or like a good use of your time anyway

like do you think i am more likely to say 'i guess' as a scums and if so why

[medeia]

am pretty okay with skitter continuing to steer the ship here

back to the shadows

[skitter30]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[medeia]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

sorry i just feel like you generally have a better perspective on my interactions with others than i do based on past experiences and i feel like i am getting lost in the sea here like i don't actually know what to make of both kcdaspot spending three days on this mission and random nurse disappearing after it became apparent i was not viable here and i... kinda just want to believe in your reads here as i mostly agree with the rest and you've seemed pretty towny to me and i worry i am making people not want to play and yeah

[skitter30]

Kcdaspot town
Random nurse probably is too

I like playing with you!
But i'm not confident enuf here to lead

My best bet rn is flipping thru t3/chicago/meuh but idk if that wins

[medeia]

if i assume kcdaspot and random nurse are town i feel similarly, so

though i wouldn't really say i am confident here either

can look closer and try to focus

also thankyou and i like playing with you too which i hope you know