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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:42 am

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In post 1848, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why though

Who else do you scumread besides Ranger? I think she's town
Because they’re playing very brazen and out there like I expect them to do as town and not dcum
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:44 am

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In post 1848, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why though

Who else do you scumread besides Ranger? I think she's town
And idk haven’t rly formed scumreads rly I did some iso dives on rauth snivy and std but didn’t see anything that said scum
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:04 am

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In post 1850, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1848, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why though

Who else do you scumread besides Ranger? I think she's town
Because they’re playing very brazen and out there like I expect them to do as town and not dcum
I know what you mean tonally, but I think it veers into scum bravado territory
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:26 am

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I do stupid things as scum too dont discredit me >:(
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:32 am

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I have a bad gut feeling about the Snivy wagon. The actual points made are solid, but it doesn't vibe with me.
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:33 am

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In post 1854, Radical Rat wrote: I have a bad gut feeling about the Snivy wagon. The actual points made are solid, but it doesn't vibe with me.
I feel like you've been doing way to much pre-flip, just shoot the scummiest person d1
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:41 am

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Wtf is this
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:41 am

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Prior to reading the case I much much prefer the previous wagons to snivy
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:41 am

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I meant the wagon in an abstract sense, not the composition. Though I'll acknowledge it being started by one of my scumreads and a counterwagon to another isn't helping the vibes much
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:51 am

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In post 1858, Radical Rat wrote: I meant the wagon in an abstract sense, not the composition. Though I'll acknowledge it being started by one of my scumreads and a counterwagon to another isn't helping the vibes much
What do you think about Wheme being against the snivy wagon?
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:52 am

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In post 1856, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Wtf is this
In post 1858, Radical Rat wrote: I meant the wagon in an abstract sense, not the composition. Though I'll acknowledge it being started by one of my scumreads and a counterwagon to another isn't helping the vibes much
Is there any reason you're townreading Snivy?

Besides tone. He has alluded to coming from chat mafia, those players tend to sound fine tonally as scum
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:00 am

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I've liked most of his Nightmare suggestions, and though you're right that it's odd he never did much with the Python read, I don't see much point in scum!Snivy holding onto it that long, and also Snivy is a green Pokémon, and green means Town.
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:02 am

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In post 1861, Radical Rat wrote: I've liked most of his Nightmare suggestions, and though you're right that it's odd he never did much with the Python read, I don't see much point in scum!Snivy holding onto it that long, and also Snivy is a green Pokémon, and green means Town.
What reason would scum!Snivy have to pivot off the Python read? No one (like not even us) was pushing him for it, simple inertia would keep him there
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:08 am

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In post 1862, usesPython wrote:
In post 1861, Radical Rat wrote: I've liked most of his Nightmare suggestions, and though you're right that it's odd he never did much with the Python read, I don't see much point in scum!Snivy holding onto it that long, and also Snivy is a green Pokémon, and green means Town.
What reason would scum!Snivy have to pivot off the Python read? No one (like not even us) was pushing him for it, simple inertia would keep him there
What reason would town!Snivy have to stay on the python read? I mean, if I could push you with a guarantee it would actually amount to anything I would but there would simply be no point in voting a widely townread person.
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:12 am

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UNVOTE:

I'm gonna have to rethink how I placed Merlyn/CSF considering the Wheme wagon was faster. If Wheme is pocketing me they deserve it :D
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:17 am

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I'll commit to doing an ISO later with an open mind, but idk, the vibes are just. All off here. It doesn't feel right.
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:20 am

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My argument was never that you (Camel) had to stick with one scumread and push it through.

But you don't seem to really care about your own reads. You had Merlyn as town but didn't really seem to care that she was E-3 and going to be the lim.

In post 1437, camelCasedSnivy wrote: I'm gonna have to collect all my reads ig

Yea: {Rat, KKFC?, Random Nurse}
Kinda: {Merlyn, sheep, Kyoko, Ranger}
Maybe: {abne, drew, dragon, titus, tweet}
Prob Not: {Flea, Aureal, sheep?}
Nah: {StD, wheme, rauth}
Condemn: {snivy}

either way I'm just gonna sheep rat since ranger is probably the only person coming close to voting with me
I also think your Nurse read here was just made up. Their high placement doesn't seem to be backed up by anything ()

But when you were making this reads list, you clearly put some thought about the placement. You allegedly had sheep in the "Prob Not" tier originally, and then bumped him up after some reconsideration, yes?
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 1863, camelCasedSnivy wrote: What reason would town!Snivy have to stay on the python read? I mean, if I could push you with a guarantee it would actually amount to anything I would but there would simply be no point in voting a widely townread person.
So case us? Like the issue is that your push on us amounted to like 2 short posts that can barely be called a case; you could have done what Kirigiri did and get into wall war, could have gone for the tried and tested Carthago delanda est to get it in peoples heads through repetition, could have interacted with us to get reactions that let people see what you were seeing, could have done literally anything
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:27 am

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CSF, can you let us know how much of the game you've read now?
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:29 am

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In post 1852, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1850, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1848, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why though

Who else do you scumread besides Ranger? I think she's town
Because they’re playing very brazen and out there like I expect them to do as town and not dcum
I know what you mean tonally, but I think it veers into scum bravado territory
I mean yeah it could but I think that’s why they get mis elimed every game they play lmao
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:29 am

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Also thanks and bless everyone for the lack of wall posts lately
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:33 am

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In post 1868, Aureal wrote: CSF, can you let us know how much of the game you've read now?
I'm all caught up (aside from a wall I might've skimmed here and there but y'know) so you can reference in-game events, I should know what you're talking about

I don't have as many confident reads as I'd like, so I'm going through some ISOs (yours right now, in fact :o )
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 1818, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I found the way drew was really confidently like the wheme push is such bullshit to be slightlyyy scummy

like im not super confident on this but. I think at worst the wheme push could seem to someone like this is too random (but this is a game that's overall relatively towny). I think the "this is so bad" was unfair and weirdly extreme
I disagree, the Wheme push just came out of left field and over half of the votes don't give even a tiny bit of reasoning, and then basically pushing what is to me a null slot, this late into the day. It is a completely weird and untownie push. I mean I get shipping Ranger is a thing apparently, but like... Are you gonna sheep her on meta read without even checking said meta?
I haven't looked into Wheme's meta btw, but like c'mon they are not THAT scummy? I mean they are not townie this game but they are not scummy. (edit: I actually decided to look into their meta, and I can sorta see how they are less casual and lighthearted than they were on BooneyToonz, but I also feel like their playstyle is different from their most recent completed scum game I could find).
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 1818, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I found the way drew was really confidently like the wheme push is such bullshit to be slightlyyy scummy

like im not super confident on this but. I think at worst the wheme push could seem to someone like this is too random (but this is a game that's overall relatively towny). I think the "this is so bad" was unfair and weirdly extreme
Actually I do agree with the second part of your post, it is a very towny game. But does that mean that saying "this is so bad" is unfair? actually brb I'm going to check who are the ppl who voted for Wheme when DD said that.
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 am

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Okay so the people who voted Wheme are Ranger, then StD, Abnegation, Rauther, and RR.
Personally I tr Ranger, Abnegation, and RR so I guess I can see where you are coming from, but I don't feel Rauther's vote for instance is towny, it just looks like scum going with the flow tbh.

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