Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

[Isis]

I'm never scum with tris I never roll scum in this setup with a personal friend, see someone I like and admire snow super effectively in the opening of the game, then spend pages 40-60 or whatever whining that

I'm

not townread. I'm not a bitch.

[Isis]

I like that Isis and tris are almost the same word but

[Isis]

Tris has been an interesting slot to read she has both scum indicative and town indicative posts

[Isis]

I think she's probably town but I agree the more recent data points aren't the strongest ones

[Datisi]

vote count 1.22

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-08-03 01:00:00).

yeet

tris [3]:

Thestatusquo, fireisredsir, Aristeia

skitter30 [1]:

hellbooks

Aristeia [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

not voting [4]:

brassherald, skitter30, tris, Isis

mod notes

skitter30 is v/la fridays/saturdays.
hellbooks is v/la today.
this is a mod note.

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[brassherald]

Tris has been an interesting slot to read she has both scum indicative and town indicative posts

Please go through each post and grade them from 1 to 10 with 1 being the scummiest and 10 being the towniest and report back with Tris' town score

[Aristeia]

or alternatively if u could summarize why u should be found as town for this game if u think those reasons exist

I should be found as town because I'm town

[sheepsaysmeep]

oh ok

[skitter30]

I probably don't support a tris lim today
She's kinda dimming but i'm not actually convinced she's scum and that she doesnt just post like this as town; isis/tris while a popular solve isnt satisfying to me tbh

Ari i still want to think is town

I think i'm looking within sheep/shea rn

What i'm a little stuck on is sheep only makes sense with someone already in the coalition and i'm not sure it's sheep *and* shea

I think shea actually does have a fair amt of scum equity here tbh

[Isis]

Skitter are the sucm

[Isis]

That was supposed to say you

[Isis]

I'm dysfunctional

[Isis]

What if it's triskitter

[Isis]

Or sheeshea

[Isis]

I think we maybe should actually read the car and then try to lim people that pair well with the person we think it is from the car

[Isis]

Hints fire is scum in the car

[skitter30]

I think we maybe should actually read the car and then try to lim people that pair well with the person we think it is from the car

That's not a great idea, no offense

[Thestatusquo]

Skitter did you read my posts from a few days ago

[Isis]

Is it really

Everyone is doing preflip assocs anyway

And I think getting a good handle on both zones makes it harder for scum to pick a zone to NK that trips us up

[Thestatusquo]

I think the main reason I scum read isis is it feels like systemically all of her takes are just wildly unthought out. And she performatively goes back on them when that's pointed out but then doesn't seem to try to understand the game in that new lens. Specifically me and sheep doesn't really make any sense because it requires me to swap in my scum buddy who is somewhat scum read into the coalition where he's more likely to be limmed for basically no benefit.

[brassherald]

I probably don't support a tris lim today
She's kinda dimming but i'm not actually convinced she's scum and that she doesnt just post like this as town; isis/tris while a popular solve isnt satisfying to me tbh

Ari i still want to think is town

I think i'm looking within sheep/shea rn

What i'm a little stuck on is sheep only makes sense with someone already in the coalition and i'm not sure it's sheep *and* shea

I think shea actually does have a fair amt of scum equity here tbh

There's one coalition member you forgot to consider hmmmm

[skitter30]

Skitter did you read my posts from a few days ago

Uh which ones

[skitter30]

I think the main reason I scum read isis is it feels like systemically all of her takes are just wildly unthought out. And she performatively goes back on them when that's pointed out but then doesn't seem to try to understand the game in that new lens. Specifically me and sheep doesn't really make any sense because it requires me to swap in my scum buddy who is somewhat scum read into the coalition where he's more likely to be limmed for basically no benefit.

Yeah agreed

[skitter30]

I probably don't support a tris lim today
She's kinda dimming but i'm not actually convinced she's scum and that she doesnt just post like this as town; isis/tris while a popular solve isnt satisfying to me tbh

Ari i still want to think is town

I think i'm looking within sheep/shea rn

What i'm a little stuck on is sheep only makes sense with someone already in the coalition and i'm not sure it's sheep *and* shea

I think shea actually does have a fair amt of scum equity here tbh

There's one coalition member you forgot to consider hmmmm

:good:

[Thestatusquo]

Starting about here.

Ok don't crucify me here.

VOTE: Tris

And going through about here.

I think tris is townier than sheep in a vacuum, by a lot, and shea has these compelling big brain paradigms for flipping that on its head, but I wanna just lim the scummiest slots

this feels like scumagendaposting to me idk

People sure keep telling me tris is townie but no one has actually told me why besides fire and skitter. Fires points were basically that he liked some posts a little and I kinda agreed with that, but scum players can and do make some townie posts. Skitters point was that tris as scum is not comfortable vibing in real time in the thread.

I kind of thought that it was not as true that tris was vibing really well in real time at the time that point was made but people disagreed so I let it be, but I don't know how anyone can say tris is vibing in real time right now.

I also think it is pretty safe to say that Tris did virtually nothing to find a correct coalition. Not in the sense that she wasn't putting out some of her own coalitions occasionally, but in the sense that she never once tried to work with others to build an actual town core. She never once tries to make the game state change to actually match the coalition she claimed she wanted.

All of her behavior is consistent with a scum player who gets universally town read and wants to maintain that game state. None of it is consistent with a town player who is trying to win the game via their town read status and coalition.

Like you can minimize what I'm saying as "big brain paradigms" if you want but my argument is that tris has played this game in an actively scummy manner and if you want to dispense of that notion you're going to have to come up with a coherent argument for what exactly is so townie about tris' play. I'd say what is scummy about sheeps play but I don't really need you to do that because I kinda agree sheep has been kinda scummy but if you're making the affirmative case that tris is townie show your work or you don't get to make arguments like this.