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Post Post #3500 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:04 am

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you are?
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Post Post #3501 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:05 am

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What if small creature aggro is my worst matchup tho
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Post Post #3502 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:05 am

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Its actually more complicated than that.

You are indeed required to tell your opponent the game state is incorrect. However in magic something is only explicitly cheating if it has the following characteristics

1) The action must be against the rules
2) The player must be attempting to gain advantage from their action.
3) The player must be aware that they are doing something illegal.

If you do not know you are required to correct the game state it is not cheating. If you do it is.
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Post Post #3503 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:08 am

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i cheated in this game by peaking at skitter's role pm
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Post Post #3504 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:10 am

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i should havr waited to see what other people do i guess?
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Post Post #3505 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:10 am

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In post 3501, Isis wrote: What if small creature aggro is my worst matchup tho
I think you'd just tell your opponent regardless of the match outcome/odds because you care more about playing honestly than winning the game.
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Post Post #3506 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:10 am

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Worth noting that is in the infraction procedure guide so it really only exists at competitive rules enforcement level or higher.

At regular rules enforcement level you would consult the Judging at Regular document which has only the following to say on the subject
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Certain actions will not be tolerated under any circumstances. Every effort should be made to educate players before and during events but any player engaging in the following must be removed from your event and, at the Organizer’s discretion, removed from the venue entirely:
  1. Aggressive, violent, harassing or abusive behavior (physical or verbal).
  2. Knowingly breaking or letting an opponent break game or tournament rules, or lying, in order to gain an advantage. “Bluffing” about cards opponents can’t normally see is permitted.
  3. Theft (including things like replacing a card in a draft with one from a player’s binder).
Removing players in this way is called a Disqualification, and we must always try to educate our players on why these actions are unacceptable. Also let the player know that while your decision is final, Wizards of the Coast would still like to hear their side of the story. You can contact your WPN Representative or follow the instructions at https://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/disq ... wizardscom.
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Post Post #3507 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 3505, Aristeia wrote:
In post 3501, Isis wrote: What if small creature aggro is my worst matchup tho
I think you'd just tell your opponent regardless of the match outcome/odds because you care more about playing honestly than winning the game.
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Post Post #3508 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 3503, tris wrote: i cheated in this game by peaking at skitter's role pm
why did you hammer skitter?
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Post Post #3509 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:15 am

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Ok I actually said "I hate to tell you this but Kari Zev has 3 toughness"


I do have a lot of guilt though about the time at a prerelease where I was 1-2 and made a token that was a copy of a legendary creature and we played like 4 turns of limited board stall premised on me having two creatures and then on the fifth turn I realized that the token is legendary even if it was a dollar bill from my wallet that didn't trigger "look at those two things they are the same" and I felt like it would feel really stupid to point it out and suggest corrective state based effects and redo my whole plan for the game so I just finished.

Generally nowadays in pokemon if I realize I'd I made a very advantageous mistake uncorrectable-minutes ago I just scoop.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3510 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:39 am

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vote count 1.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 1 ended.


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Post Post #3511 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:43 am

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skitter30 has been yeeted day 1. she was a
mafia goon
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the sun sets, it is now night 1. sunrise in (expired on 2023-08-04 22:00:00).
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #3512 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:04 am

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Thestatusquo has been killed night 1. he was a
vanilla townie
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the sun rises. it is now day 2.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #3513 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:06 am

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vote count 2.00

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-08-12 22:15:00).


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Post Post #3514 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:08 am

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whee
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Post Post #3515 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:10 am

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most of the flavours seem to be jokes but this one is just kinda cute imo

maybe its supposed to be cringe or something. im cringe tho
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Post Post #3516 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:12 am

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yeah :33
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Post Post #3517 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:12 am

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my first impulse is that i want a cute boy to text me but realistically it would just be annoying

i'm supposed to make a post about how i'm surprised about the kill i picked out though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3518 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:13 am

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isis, why did you kill shea?
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Post Post #3519 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:13 am

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Aww who will cook for us now
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Post Post #3520 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:14 am

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datisi's avatar looks like a mimicry bug that ate another creature and is impersonating it
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3521 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:14 am

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i only cook for my gf
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #3522 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:14 am

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i can try
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Post Post #3523 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:14 am

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read through pages 1-60 of the coal forming stage and have a few thoughts based on that

i haven't looked at the end of the coal phase or the post-coal phase (we invented renewable energy sources) yet but i expect that may have some interesting bits as well obviously. i have stronger memories of those tho

1) i think ari is really unlikely scum. i don't think she has much reason to come in and side with partner ari against shea there, she knows how he'll respond to that. if anything she would want to get on shea's side and push herself in while pushing ari out

2) i think shea is pretty unlikely to be scum?the way she handled shea vs ari feels like it's a tvt to me. it's slightly more likely than ari i think, but i don't really see it. the way he responded to skitter coming in and just a lot of stuff he's done this game feel pretty distinctly town shea to me

3) if it's bulge/brassherald, which i think it pretty easily could be, then i think skitter probably just knew that she would likely be able to make her way into the coal eventually and could just push her partner + some townies out of the way, and continually shade people to keep herself as one of the few consensus towns. i actually think this is probably the best strategy from her position. she kept trying to maintain scumreads on me/sheep/bulge/brooks/isis/shea. so basically everyone except tris/ari lol. and if she succeeds in undermining the perception of at least 4 of those being town (not that hard to do) then she makes it in. she also never really pushed him until she was solidly in the coal, and focused on her scumreads of me/shea and brooks and isis at times

4) i think similarly it could be sheep? his handling of her is slightly awkward and i think that she started with a default "i don't townread sheep why does everyone townread sheep" which then pivoted into more firmly pushing him out once she got some townreads. probably post-coal has more insights here

5) based on just coal forming and interactions i still think it very easily could be tris. i don't think thats my first pick though. it just would mean that skitter would be trying to boost the perception of tris being threadspewed town, rather than specifically playing for 1 in 1 out

6) isis felt townier to me on reread. i think the strangest part was where it felt like she was inserting herself into skitter's pocket when skitter didn't really ever take much action to initiate that. and isis said that skitter was scumreading her before skitter really pivoted into that (she originally townread isis) which felt oddly prophetic. it would be a slightly bold approach i guess to just openly hard townread and proxy vote your partner but also it's probably a really good approach so she might go for it

7) idk i just don't really think it's hellbooks lmao i don't have a good reason. i guess it's plausible that she would be leaning into the setting herself up as opposing skitter but not very loudly/convincingly and accepting that she is going to be the one left out. so strategically it actually fits pretty well. maybe im snowed
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Post Post #3524 (ISO) » Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:14 am

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AND REGIONALS i took jubilife village to arlington not a single player knew the card without reading it
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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